billvon 2,407 #26 January 28, 2008 >I bet he's hand-in glove with the commies. Or at least, hand in mitt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #27 January 28, 2008 Huckabee fucks bees. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #28 January 28, 2008 Quote >I bet he's hand-in glove with the commies. Or at least, hand in mitt. Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #29 January 28, 2008 Indicted Obama Fundraiser's Bond Revoked Indicted political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko leaves Chicago's federal building in thi... By MIKE ROBINSON, AP Mon Jan 28, 4:09 PM EST A judge revoked the $2 million bond Monday for indicted businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who has raised thousands of dollars for Barack Obama and Illinois politicians. U.S. District Judge Amy J. St. Eve said she grew concerned after learning Rezko received $3.5 million from a company in Lebanon; he had claimed that he had no income. St. Eve said she feared Rezko could be a flight risk. The real estate developer and fast food magnate was arrested Monday morning at his home in suburban Wilmette. At an afternoon hearing, the judge ordered him into custody and scheduled a Tuesday hearing where Rezko's attorneys will attempt to get bond reinstated. Rezko has pleaded not guilty to charges of fraud, attempted extortion and money laundering, and is scheduled to stand trial Feb. 25. He is accused of pressuring businesses seeking work before two state regulatory boards to make campaign contributions and payoffs. Rezko had long been a fundraiser for Gov. Rod Blagojevich and for Obama, the presidential candidate and senator from Illinois. Neither Democrat has been accused of wrongdoing in the case. Obama has said he had no indication of problems with Rezko when he accepted thousands of dollars in campaign contributions. When prosecutors unsealed their charges against Rezko in 2006, Obama gave $11,500 in Rezko contributions to charities. Obama has since sought to distance himself from Rezko, even as his main Democratic rival — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton — invoked Rezko's name and his "slum lord business" during a recent debate. The Obama campaign declined to comment on Rezko's arrest Monday. Federal prosecutors say Rezko was deceptive in leading St. Eve to grant bond by claiming in April 2007 that he had no income of his own and was instead living off the generosity of friends and relatives. Assistant U.S. Attorney Reid J. Schar said $3.5 million from a Lebanon-based firm had been distributed to various funds and individuals, indicating that Rezko had more money than he had led the court to believe. "This defendant has played a shell game and I think misled the court about what his assets are," Schar said. He said Rezko's $2 million bond was no longer adequate to make certain he would remain in the United States and show up for trial. Defense attorney Joseph Duffy said "there isn't anything that suggests flight." He said Rezko, a U.S. citizen born in Syria, returned from overseas to face the charges against him. Duffy said initially that the $3.5 million was a loan secured by part of a 62-acre parcel of land south of Chicago's Loop. But then in the middle of the hearing he interrupted to say he had just been informed that it was not. Asked after the hearing if the $3.5 million was a secured loan, he said: "I don't know that." Prosecutors also said that some of the people who put up property in Rezko's name are renting out or trying to sell the property, raising concerns there may not be enough collateral to secure Rezko's bond. Schar said in the case of one man who posted his home as bond, Rezko funneled the home's exact value back to him. Once the estimated eight- to 12-week trial is over, Rezko still will face federal charges alleging he swindled General Electric Capital Corp. out of $10 million in connection with the sale of two pizza restaurant chains. It was learned last week that an associate of Rezko's had sent a $10,000 campaign contribution to Obama's U.S. Senate campaign using money from the alleged pizza scheme. Obama's campaign then sent $40,000 in Rezko-related campaign contributions to charity. Earlier this month, Obama gave to charity more than $40,000 in past political contributions from seven individuals with ties to Rezko. The decision to donate the money contributed to Obama's House and Senate campaigns — but not his current presidential bid — came after a published report that Obama is the unnamed "political candidate" in one paragraph of a 78-page prosecution document that outlines the case against Rezko. Obama also has had to answer questions about how Rezko became involved in the purchase of the Obama family home as well as other ties to Rezko that go back more than 15 years. Obama says he did five or six hours of work in the early 1990s for community groups that partnered with Rezko in apartment house development projects. Obama says he never represented Rezko in those deals, but his law firm at the time did represent Rezko's real estate development company, Rezmar. ___ Associated Press writer Don Babwin contributed to this report. Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #30 January 28, 2008 The viral messaging/viral smear campaign has reached a point that the US Army has explicitly instructed soldiers to not forward the erroneous email. From military.com, Troops Warned About Bogus Obama E-mail: “The U.S. military has warned Soldiers not to use official computers to forward an e-mail accusing Sen. Barack Obama of being a Muslim who attended a radical Muslim school. “‘Currently there is a Chain Email floating around with the Subject line: “Who is Barack Obama,”’ states the official warning, which was sent to all personnel who work for Army Medical Command, based in Fort Sam Houston, Texas. ‘Like virtually all chain e-mails this one is false.’” More from Boston Globe article: “The memorandum, dated Thursday, went out after the discredited claims about Obama's background were sent from an Army computer to what appear to be thousands of Army personnel worldwide. “The controversial e-mail that spreads the falsehoods about Obama's background begins by saying that this is ‘something that should be considered in your choice’ for president. “Obama is a practicing Christian in the United Church of Christ and was sworn in as a US senator with a Bible, not a Koran, as asserted by the bogus e-mail.” (Note: the Hatch Act does not prevent or inhibit members of the uniformed services or federal employees from participating in (most) partisan activities; one just can’t use official resources (e.g., a us.army.mil email acct).) One (indirect) response from Sen Obama’s campaign was a pro-Christian flyer distributed as part of the South Carolina primary, which includes affirmations on “Being Called to Christ” and the “Power of (Christian) prayer.” Given the tenacity of this mis-information, is it any wonder that Sen Obama is compelled “to campaign from a church pulpit,” (re: Chris’ thread)? VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,407 #31 January 28, 2008 It's also sad that this level of bigotry still exists. Using "he's partially Muslim" is about as bigoted as using "he's half black" as a reason not to vote for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,635 #32 January 29, 2008 QuoteIt's also sad that this level of bigotry still exists. Using "he's partially Muslim" is about as bigoted as using "he's half black" as a reason not to vote for him. Expect the smearing to get worse. The smear attacks on McCain in 2000 will be nothing compared to the attacks on Obama or Clinton (whoever wins the DEM nomination).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,407 #33 January 29, 2008 >The smear attacks on McCain in 2000 will be nothing compared to >the attacks on Obama or Clinton (whoever wins the DEM nomination). While I agree, I also have no doubt that the democrats will quickly respond in kind. For example, should Huckabee win the primary, watch for his Willie Horton story to get as much play as it did with Dukakis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #34 January 29, 2008 Expect the smearing to get worse. The smear attacks on McCain in 2000 will be nothing compared to the attacks on Obama or Clinton (whoever wins the DEM nomination). Quote Both sides are equally guilty in this respect, it's BS I agree, but it's part of politics, people would rather focus on the negative aspects of another due to the fact that their positive aspects are usually hard to account for. On the note of smear campaigns though, all the press coverage of Obama's former buddy being arrested is a wonderful example. A close look will show that Obama made an effort to break ties with him a few years ago after getting a good look at this guys corruption, he even supposedly donated all the money this guy had given him to charity in stead of using it in his campaign so he couldn't be accused of taking dirty money. I'm sure in hindsight Obama regrets ever doing and dealings with him, but hindsight is 20/20 and at least he made the effort to distance himself when he realized how bad this guy was. Either way the excessive amount ofpress coverage on this and the way everyone has to mention him as "the guy who contributed to Obama" without mentioning that the contributions were a few years back an later given to charities, this is the perfect example of a smear campaign. With the Clinton camp stench all over it.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #35 January 29, 2008 [replyHilary Clinton secretly has people killed and their bodies disposed of. Not disposed...just taken to Ft. Marcy Park, that's all... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #36 January 29, 2008 Quote >The smear attacks on McCain in 2000 will be nothing compared to >the attacks on Obama or Clinton (whoever wins the DEM nomination). While I agree, I also have no doubt that the democrats will quickly respond in kind. For example, should Huckabee win the primary, watch for his Willie Horton story to get as much play as it did with Dukakis. nonsense, the Dems will do nothing of the kind - how dare you slight those paragons of virtue and lump them in with the undead skin eaters on the right remember - Reps = pure evil Dems = pure good (you just can't help it BV - even when you try to play fair you can't help but spin it as "the Dems will RESPOND in kind" as if they won't do it unless the other team does it first. I suspect both teams will independently start the bashing in earnest once the candidates are really identified - no 'response' needed, it's SOP for both teams) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,407 #37 January 29, 2008 >I suspect both teams will independently start the bashing in earnest >once the candidates are really identified . . . . . . which is why the republicans will get first shot at it. The democratic field is narrower, and will shake out sooner. Needless to say, if the GOP had a clear front runner, the democrats would have already started the attacks. (BTW your knee-jerk GOP defense is showing!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #38 January 29, 2008 Quote>The democratic field is narrower, and will shake out sooner. I can accept that reasoning. except.....it doesn't really matter who comes out as the frontrunners, both parties already have all the bashing prestaged and ready to go ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mnealtx 0 #35 January 29, 2008 [replyHilary Clinton secretly has people killed and their bodies disposed of. Not disposed...just taken to Ft. Marcy Park, that's all... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #36 January 29, 2008 Quote >The smear attacks on McCain in 2000 will be nothing compared to >the attacks on Obama or Clinton (whoever wins the DEM nomination). While I agree, I also have no doubt that the democrats will quickly respond in kind. For example, should Huckabee win the primary, watch for his Willie Horton story to get as much play as it did with Dukakis. nonsense, the Dems will do nothing of the kind - how dare you slight those paragons of virtue and lump them in with the undead skin eaters on the right remember - Reps = pure evil Dems = pure good (you just can't help it BV - even when you try to play fair you can't help but spin it as "the Dems will RESPOND in kind" as if they won't do it unless the other team does it first. I suspect both teams will independently start the bashing in earnest once the candidates are really identified - no 'response' needed, it's SOP for both teams) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,407 #37 January 29, 2008 >I suspect both teams will independently start the bashing in earnest >once the candidates are really identified . . . . . . which is why the republicans will get first shot at it. The democratic field is narrower, and will shake out sooner. Needless to say, if the GOP had a clear front runner, the democrats would have already started the attacks. (BTW your knee-jerk GOP defense is showing!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #38 January 29, 2008 Quote>The democratic field is narrower, and will shake out sooner. I can accept that reasoning. except.....it doesn't really matter who comes out as the frontrunners, both parties already have all the bashing prestaged and ready to go ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
