freeflir29 0 #1 January 12, 2007 That even Iraqis are signing up for service in the US Army. kurdishglobe.net/displayArticle.jsp?id=5880BF7A101052CEB03AC79DCB1AFA7D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #2 January 12, 2007 Shhh, don't baffle them with facts. And those weren't Iraqis at Ranger School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #3 January 12, 2007 If only a few more like this guy would sign up for the IRAQI army. Politics aside, it's a nice story. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #4 January 12, 2007 QuoteIf only a few more like this guy would sign up for the IRAQI army. NO DOUBT! Not that I am not glad to have him in the US Army. We need more people like him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #5 January 12, 2007 ... wasn't the American military who trained Osama Bin Laden??? .... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #6 January 12, 2007 Great Story. I know so many people my self included who fled war for the fear of death to come to the US. Most of the ones I know have made good lives for themselves, and have received a lot of hospitality from the American people. No Question that this is a great country and this story is one of the many examples as to why.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
misaltas 0 #7 January 13, 2007 Quote ... wasn't the American military who trained Osama Bin Laden??? .... Yes. The US supported the muja's along with Osama fighting off the Soviet invasion in the 80s. You would have preferred we support the Soviets?Ohne Liebe sind wir nichts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #8 January 13, 2007 QuoteYes. The US supported the muja's along with Osama fighting off the Soviet invasion in the 80s. You would have preferred we support the Soviets? I wonder how many other the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing is going to come back to bite us in the ass again... Some of the assbites in power in Iraq right now.. come to mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #9 January 13, 2007 QuoteQuote ... wasn't the American military who trained Osama Bin Laden??? .... Yes. The US supported the muja's along with Osama fighting off the Soviet invasion in the 80s. You would have preferred we support the Soviets? That's correct, but not accurate. The Americans never directly provided materiel support to the mujahideen in Afghanistan. Saudi and Pakistani intelligence were the direct contacts. In interviews with OBL, even he says he did not recall working directly with any Americans while he was fighting the Soviets. edit to add: The original story is quite cool. I'm trying to imagine what it was like, New York City to Fardo, ND!!So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #10 January 13, 2007 If only a few more like this guy would sign up for the IRAQI army. Quote Actually the Iraqi army has countless people like this, there are quite a few great and dedicated soldiers in the Iraqi army, especially up north where the majority of them are former Peshmerga, I'll roll with those guys any day. The majority of Kurds seem to have a similar attitude, they want to do their part to help make a difference, I love the KurdsHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflir29 0 #11 January 14, 2007 QuoteI love the Kurds Things were REALLY tense the other day but in general we tend to get along with them very well. I have to say.........out of all the people in the Middle East I have met the Kurds are certainly the best. They are the only ones that seem to have any sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vortexring 0 #12 January 14, 2007 In actual fact - a few British people worked directly for them in country - teaching them how to operate the Stingers. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,644 #13 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteI love the Kurds Things were REALLY tense the other day but in general we tend to get along with them very well. I have to say.........out of all the people in the Middle East I have met the Kurds are certainly the best. They are the only ones that seem to have any sense. My son said the most violence he saw in Iraq was from the Kurds... When his unit played the local team at soccer... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #14 January 14, 2007 Yes they are VERY SERIOUS about "futball". If we hadn't restrained them, as we still are, there would be an independent Kurdistan right now. Then of course the violence would probably be directed there and the current discussion would not be happening. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 January 14, 2007 Yes they are VERY SERIOUS about "futball".Quote Those guys kicked my butt at volleyball too!!History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #16 January 14, 2007 Why is it when you posted that all I saw was "Slider" posing? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #17 January 14, 2007 Why is it when you posted that all I saw was "Slider" posing? Quote LMAO, dude come on....Slider was a blonde he's got nothin on meHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bazelos 0 #18 January 15, 2007 I though that only Americans could join the US army, how did a Kurd joined the US army?He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #19 January 15, 2007 Many non-citizens join the Army, now it is a way for some to get their citizenship.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #20 January 15, 2007 I bet Al-Jeezera (sp?) doesn't cover this story. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,426 #21 January 15, 2007 Well, per Bush, that's one of the problems Iraq has - they're not grateful enough for our liberating them. From a recent interview: "I think, I think I'm proud of the efforts we did. Uh, we liberated that country from a tyrant. Uh, I think the Iraqi people owe the, the American people a huge debt of gratitude. That's the problem, here in America. They wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that's significant enough in Iraq." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #22 January 15, 2007 QuoteThat even Iraqis are signing up for service in the US Army. Is the proper measure of the morality of one side of a conflict how comfortable it is to be on that side? If so, then the Mafia is a great organization because they pay well. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #23 January 15, 2007 Maybe you should apply for a job then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #24 January 15, 2007 QuoteMaybe you should apply for a job then. Not interested. See, that's not my logic -- it's the logic of anyone who thinks that iraqis wanting to join the US army is evidence of the goodness of America. I use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. That's alien to a lot of you, but it's what I learned as a child and I still believe it's the right way. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #25 January 15, 2007 QuoteI use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. Is that MORALITY..... OR the Right Wing version of PSUEDO-MORALITY, where killing hundreds of thousands of people as "colateral damage" is OK, and telling one story about WMD then actually setting up all kinds of laws so your buddies in the oil companies can pillage the resources of that other country for personal benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
freeflir29 0 #11 January 14, 2007 QuoteI love the Kurds Things were REALLY tense the other day but in general we tend to get along with them very well. I have to say.........out of all the people in the Middle East I have met the Kurds are certainly the best. They are the only ones that seem to have any sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #12 January 14, 2007 In actual fact - a few British people worked directly for them in country - teaching them how to operate the Stingers. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,644 #13 January 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteI love the Kurds Things were REALLY tense the other day but in general we tend to get along with them very well. I have to say.........out of all the people in the Middle East I have met the Kurds are certainly the best. They are the only ones that seem to have any sense. My son said the most violence he saw in Iraq was from the Kurds... When his unit played the local team at soccer... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #14 January 14, 2007 Yes they are VERY SERIOUS about "futball". If we hadn't restrained them, as we still are, there would be an independent Kurdistan right now. Then of course the violence would probably be directed there and the current discussion would not be happening. MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #15 January 14, 2007 Yes they are VERY SERIOUS about "futball".Quote Those guys kicked my butt at volleyball too!!History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #16 January 14, 2007 Why is it when you posted that all I saw was "Slider" posing? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #17 January 14, 2007 Why is it when you posted that all I saw was "Slider" posing? Quote LMAO, dude come on....Slider was a blonde he's got nothin on meHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bazelos 0 #18 January 15, 2007 I though that only Americans could join the US army, how did a Kurd joined the US army?He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #19 January 15, 2007 Many non-citizens join the Army, now it is a way for some to get their citizenship.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #20 January 15, 2007 I bet Al-Jeezera (sp?) doesn't cover this story. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,426 #21 January 15, 2007 Well, per Bush, that's one of the problems Iraq has - they're not grateful enough for our liberating them. From a recent interview: "I think, I think I'm proud of the efforts we did. Uh, we liberated that country from a tyrant. Uh, I think the Iraqi people owe the, the American people a huge debt of gratitude. That's the problem, here in America. They wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that's significant enough in Iraq." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #22 January 15, 2007 QuoteThat even Iraqis are signing up for service in the US Army. Is the proper measure of the morality of one side of a conflict how comfortable it is to be on that side? If so, then the Mafia is a great organization because they pay well. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #23 January 15, 2007 Maybe you should apply for a job then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #24 January 15, 2007 QuoteMaybe you should apply for a job then. Not interested. See, that's not my logic -- it's the logic of anyone who thinks that iraqis wanting to join the US army is evidence of the goodness of America. I use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. That's alien to a lot of you, but it's what I learned as a child and I still believe it's the right way. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #25 January 15, 2007 QuoteI use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. Is that MORALITY..... OR the Right Wing version of PSUEDO-MORALITY, where killing hundreds of thousands of people as "colateral damage" is OK, and telling one story about WMD then actually setting up all kinds of laws so your buddies in the oil companies can pillage the resources of that other country for personal benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
matthewcline 0 #16 January 14, 2007 Why is it when you posted that all I saw was "Slider" posing? MattAn Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #17 January 14, 2007 Why is it when you posted that all I saw was "Slider" posing? Quote LMAO, dude come on....Slider was a blonde he's got nothin on meHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bazelos 0 #18 January 15, 2007 I though that only Americans could join the US army, how did a Kurd joined the US army?He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matthewcline 0 #19 January 15, 2007 Many non-citizens join the Army, now it is a way for some to get their citizenship.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #20 January 15, 2007 I bet Al-Jeezera (sp?) doesn't cover this story. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,426 #21 January 15, 2007 Well, per Bush, that's one of the problems Iraq has - they're not grateful enough for our liberating them. From a recent interview: "I think, I think I'm proud of the efforts we did. Uh, we liberated that country from a tyrant. Uh, I think the Iraqi people owe the, the American people a huge debt of gratitude. That's the problem, here in America. They wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that's significant enough in Iraq." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #22 January 15, 2007 QuoteThat even Iraqis are signing up for service in the US Army. Is the proper measure of the morality of one side of a conflict how comfortable it is to be on that side? If so, then the Mafia is a great organization because they pay well. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #23 January 15, 2007 Maybe you should apply for a job then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites narcimund 0 #24 January 15, 2007 QuoteMaybe you should apply for a job then. Not interested. See, that's not my logic -- it's the logic of anyone who thinks that iraqis wanting to join the US army is evidence of the goodness of America. I use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. That's alien to a lot of you, but it's what I learned as a child and I still believe it's the right way. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #25 January 15, 2007 QuoteI use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. Is that MORALITY..... OR the Right Wing version of PSUEDO-MORALITY, where killing hundreds of thousands of people as "colateral damage" is OK, and telling one story about WMD then actually setting up all kinds of laws so your buddies in the oil companies can pillage the resources of that other country for personal benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
bazelos 0 #18 January 15, 2007 I though that only Americans could join the US army, how did a Kurd joined the US army?He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthewcline 0 #19 January 15, 2007 Many non-citizens join the Army, now it is a way for some to get their citizenship.An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #20 January 15, 2007 I bet Al-Jeezera (sp?) doesn't cover this story. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #21 January 15, 2007 Well, per Bush, that's one of the problems Iraq has - they're not grateful enough for our liberating them. From a recent interview: "I think, I think I'm proud of the efforts we did. Uh, we liberated that country from a tyrant. Uh, I think the Iraqi people owe the, the American people a huge debt of gratitude. That's the problem, here in America. They wonder whether or not there is a gratitude level that's significant enough in Iraq." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #22 January 15, 2007 QuoteThat even Iraqis are signing up for service in the US Army. Is the proper measure of the morality of one side of a conflict how comfortable it is to be on that side? If so, then the Mafia is a great organization because they pay well. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 January 15, 2007 Maybe you should apply for a job then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #24 January 15, 2007 QuoteMaybe you should apply for a job then. Not interested. See, that's not my logic -- it's the logic of anyone who thinks that iraqis wanting to join the US army is evidence of the goodness of America. I use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. That's alien to a lot of you, but it's what I learned as a child and I still believe it's the right way. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #25 January 15, 2007 QuoteI use morality to decide what I do -- not comfort. Is that MORALITY..... OR the Right Wing version of PSUEDO-MORALITY, where killing hundreds of thousands of people as "colateral damage" is OK, and telling one story about WMD then actually setting up all kinds of laws so your buddies in the oil companies can pillage the resources of that other country for personal benefit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
