miked10270 0 #1 March 4, 2006 From another board: Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D), is presently asking the Congress for $250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans. Interesting number, what does it mean? Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, child), you each get $516, 528. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans, your home gets $1, 329,787 One wonders just what the fuck they're building New-New-Orleans out of!!? Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #2 March 4, 2006 Lets just give them all $1 Million and be done with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #3 March 4, 2006 188,251 houses without roads, power lines, businesses, water treatment plants, and (most importantly) flood protection wouldn't be worth much. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 March 4, 2006 If this happened in Chicago we would all be told to go fuck ourselves Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #5 March 4, 2006 Probably not. Daley is doing the job on his own..."Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #6 March 4, 2006 yeah, but you forgot to take into account that 50 billion of that is bottles of febreeze to get the sewage/fish smell out of everything. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #7 March 4, 2006 Those residents NEVER will get back to their homes. The big plan is to take the 9th Ward and transform it into Casino's, hotels and bars. Wait a while and watch it happen.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #8 March 4, 2006 Does anyone not remember that song we sang in Sunday School? " Don't build your house on a sandy land, don't build it too near the shore" Fuck, I learned at age 4 not to build a fucking house below sea level. Fuck New Orleans. A bunch of fuking criminals from the top to the bottom. We should spend some of those proposed billions to hire more police and build mpre jails in Houston. They need it now. -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #9 March 4, 2006 QuoteDoes anyone not remember that song we sang in Sunday School? " Don't build your house on a sandy land, don't build it too near the shore" Fuck, I learned at age 4 not to build a fucking house below sea level. Fuck New Orleans. A bunch of fuking criminals from the top to the bottom. We should spend some of those proposed billions to hire more police and build mpre jails in Houston. They need it now. -- Tell us how you really feel, Mike. Oh, and... It's weird seeing your opinions next to my face. Some people probably think I have turned into a real asshole lately, and that I have forgotten how to spell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #10 March 4, 2006 QuoteDoes anyone not remember that song we sang in Sunday School? " Don't build your house on a sandy land, don't build it too near the shore" Fuck, I learned at age 4 not to build a fucking house below sea level. Fuck New Orleans. A bunch of fuking criminals from the top to the bottom. We should spend some of those proposed billions to hire more police and build mpre jails in Houston. They need it now. HEY!! ...i will not have any scientific thought processes about building below sea level or, for that matter, on an eroding cliff side, around here! the only concern in the NO situation is: "we've lived here all our lives, heck, more generations than i can count (more than 3) so, we're moving back come heck or high water" <--no pun intended. SO, the point is that you are either going to gleefully surrender your tax dollars to this effort or, you will all be labeled as nazi, uncompassionate, bastards that should rot in heck. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #11 March 4, 2006 QuoteFuck, I learned at age 4 not to build a fucking house below sea level. They need to do what Galveston did.. raise the level of the whole city. That way the whole city has no need of levees.. Start in the most devastated areas....build retaining walls... start filling it in.. burying the garbage and destroyed houses.. keep filling till its 20 ft above sea level. Any homes that are salvageable.. just move them out to the new high ground. Otherwise.. well this is just going to happen again. Levees will not stand up to the new improved climate with warmer ocean temps.. and more and stronger hurricanes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #12 March 4, 2006 QuoteDoes anyone not remember that song we sang in Sunday School? " Don't build your house on a sandy land, don't build it too near the shore" Fuck, I learned at age 4 not to build a fucking house below sea level. Fuck New Orleans. A bunch of fuking criminals from the top to the bottom. We should spend some of those proposed billions to hire more police and build mpre jails in Houston. They need it now. -- Holy fucking shit! Rock on, sista!!!!!! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #13 March 4, 2006 Quote188,251 houses without roads, power lines, businesses, water treatment plants, and (most importantly) flood protection wouldn't be worth much. Um, is every man woman and child going to have to spend $516,528 on a house of his/her own? If one person per household with an average of mom, dad, and two kids spent even $300,000 on a new home, that would leave over a million and a half dollars that family could contribute toward building the roads and erecting the powerlines, etc. Just why would you claim that $516,528 for every living human being in a city would not be enough to get that city on its feet again? I noticed you were concerned about "flood protection." The best "flood protection" I can think of would be to not build the motherfucking city below SEA LEVEL again! I'm with Duckwater: FUCK 'em!!!!! --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #14 March 4, 2006 QuoteThe best "flood protection" I can think of would be to not build the motherfucking city below SEA LEVEL again! I'm with Duckwater: FUCK 'em!!!!! Spoken like the true compassionate conservative.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peacefuljeffrey 0 #15 March 4, 2006 QuoteQuoteThe best "flood protection" I can think of would be to not build the motherfucking city below SEA LEVEL again! I'm with Duckwater: FUCK 'em!!!!! Spoken like the true compassionate conservative.... So then you favor: - rebuilding, at great expense, a city right where the next flood will destroy it all over again - handing out half a million dollars to every man, woman and child in that city, taken from everyone else who is smart enough to not build their house in the way of billions of tons of water --Jeffrey "With tha thoughts of a militant mind... Hard line, hard line after hard line!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 March 4, 2006 Look up above the comment about Galveston. Come on I know you can do it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #17 March 4, 2006 Tough question,,,, about what to do... When I see news reports and "on the scene'" video or pictures,, there is still TONS & TONS of debris everywhere... Sure sure. people can't get back in to clean up because there is no power. etc etc. Yet the ones who are working, who are cleaning, are simply taking the tons of debris and PILING IT UP in the front yard!!!!! NOW someone,,, either them or someone else is gonna have to come along and pick it all up AGAIN,,, to haul it away.. Why hasn't Waste Management and every other disposal service like them,,, in the ENTIRE country,, shipped every single one of it's available dumpsters to N.O. so that people can place the debris in THEM..... Gee,,, you'd think every container manufacturing plant in the World...... would be on triple shift making NEW dumpsters... 24 yard 40 yard... each easy to pick up and easy to drop.... Add a light system to the top of each box...Green Light,,, means "theres still room in here, load me up".. Red light is the word to the truckers, to "pick me up i'm full"... Now, where to take it???? not sure... Amazons Idea about using the debris as fill and then leveling it and covering it in soil is a good one... We build parks, playgrounds etc on top of landfills alll the time,,,, and in N O the fill is not 100% household garbage, but it is construction debris, wood, cement, gypsum, shingles.... In any event it won't matter !!! The "pace " of the clean-up is sooooo slow... that Mother Nature will take care of everything, anyway by this coming July August Sept..... category 5 is gonna be the new benchmark for storms,,,, NOT the Rare and ocassional 'monster cyclone'... God Forbid, but i am scared for the entire Gulf Coast,, since they are not done yet..... this is just a wintertime reprieve that we are in, and next Hurricaine season,, you can bet, we will see. similar and powerful destruction all over again.. Then all the crap will be washed over again, a certain, "annual rinsing" and flushed out into the Gulf.. rebuild N O ?? ... ok but if you (we, the taxpayers) do it... It should be done on some open areas hundreds of miles inland.... Don't mess with the Almighty, Don't toy with Mother Nature. Don't fall into the trap of thinking than MAN knows all the answers.. Hell MAN ( i. e. our Leaders and Gov't. ) hasn't yet even figured out the questions......But pouring Billions into an area that is suspect,,,,is foolish and stupid... IT's The GEOGRAPHY & LOCATION that is the problem.... NOT the people who live there!!!!!! This is not a Racist Issue,, this is not a poverty issue as alll the politicians and media people would have us believe... It's pure and simple common sense that on the geological level a sandy coastline, with the countries largest river adding to soil displacement and erosion which sits as a bowl below the level of the surrounding waters ( G of Mex) should be the least likely and least appealing place to build your homes . Sure exploit the river and the nearness to the waters for commerce, or transportation, or other 'business' but for Christ's Sake...... don't LIVE there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #18 March 4, 2006 In a general sense, I agree - insurance companies won't cover homeowners that build in a flood plain...why should we rebuild N.O. in place? Filling in and building on top of the fill, a la Galveston, makes much better sense.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #19 March 4, 2006 Sigh. Personally, I'd like to see them bring in some water management consultants from the Netherlands before they do anything else. If anyone can figure out the right way to rebuild the levees, or figure out that it can't or shouldn't be done, the Netherlands is the place to find an expert. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #20 March 4, 2006 That's a very good point!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #21 March 4, 2006 It's not a bad idea but the Netherlands don't have much experience with having to build dykes that can withstand Hurricane conditions. I'm sure they are built to withstand North Sea storms , but thats not the same as the tropical sorms that might hit N.O.---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #22 March 4, 2006 I can recall my father talking about North Atlantic and Baltic Sea storms with 30 foot waves... I'd think building dikes to withstand that would be pretty good experience....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #23 March 5, 2006 QuoteLook up above the comment about Galveston. Come on I know you can do it. If a 4 or 5 storm hit Galveston, it would flood too. Only difference the water would recede faster. Many parts flood even during heavy rains. "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #24 March 5, 2006 Bury it, bury it deep. Today N.O.. Tomorrow Quebec Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #25 March 6, 2006 Quote Bury it, bury it deep. Today N.O.. Tomorrow Quebec Naaa.. just pump all the water out of the gulf into the pacific ocean. Then N.O. will ok and hollywood would be at risk. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
