JohnRich 4 #1 April 13, 2005 In the news, from North Carolina: Keg proposals alarm Chapel Hill "Bills filed in the General Assembly would require beer keg buyers to register with the state... "The proposed laws would require keg buyers to obtain permits from the local Alcoholic Beverage Control board that listed when and where the keg would be consumed. Also, all keg purchases would be public records. "Under one version, ABC officials would have the right to perform a criminal background check on a would-be keg buyer, at the applicant's expense. "Advocates for the proposed laws say the extra measures will make it easier for police to enforce the laws, particularly when police will know where every keg party in town is being held." Full story: News Observer Now here is a government intrusion over which I think all skydivers can put aside their differences, and rally together against. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #2 April 13, 2005 Quote Under one version, ABC officials would have the right to perform a criminal background check on a would-be keg buyer, at the applicant's expense. If you have a criminal background, can they stop you from buying alcohol? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #3 April 13, 2005 That is SO wrong. But I'm sure that the sheep won't raise much of a fuss.... Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KevinMcGuire 0 #4 April 13, 2005 registration is the first step before confiscation. Oh wait sorry wrong thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #5 April 13, 2005 I'm sure it's for the sake of god or the fight against terrorism or somehow linked to national security, so it's okay.....right? linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #6 April 13, 2005 Guns don't kill people, kegs and lawnmowers do.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #7 April 13, 2005 QuoteIf you have a criminal background, can they stop you from buying alcohol? Good question. I've never heard of a law which prohibits felons from drinking alcohol. So it makes you wonder what the point of this would be. They'll get my beer when they pry my frosty mug from my cold, dead fingers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #8 April 13, 2005 It was attempted in the Colo. legislature last week......it failed miserablyThe "logic" behind it being it would prevent teens from drinkingMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #9 April 13, 2005 I know they didn't give us a background check, but when I was in college in Athens, GA, we had to fill out a form basically like that one. We had to put the address we were taking the keg to, and somewhere on there we had to sign that we wouldn't serve minors (well, either minors or people under 21 - can't remember which). And I think most people on probation are forbidden from drinking alcohol. Maybe that's what they mean by "background check"? Even so, though, if you can still buy a six-pack without a background check, it won't help with that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #10 April 13, 2005 Quoteregistration is the first step before confiscation. Oh wait sorry wrong thread Not necessarily the wrong thread. Why would the cops want to know where the keg parties are being held? So they can crash the party, arrest people, and confiscate their kegs... Coming soon to a drop zone near you! I guess we'll all just have to buy a whole lot of cases of beer, instead of just a couple of big kegs. Easy work-around. Stupid law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 April 13, 2005 QuoteIt was attempted in the Colo. legislature last week......it failed miserably I'm glad to hear that the people of Colorado still have some good sense. Maybe they should require teenagers to register before having sex, in order to prevent unwanted teen pregnancy. Yeah, brilliant! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 April 13, 2005 QuoteI know they didn't give us a background check, but when I was in college in Athens, GA, we had to fill out a form basically like that one. We had to put the address we were taking the keg to, and somewhere on there we had to sign that we wouldn't serve minors I can see that for strictly business purposes, to recover their empty kegs, and to avoid liability for underage drinking. But the government shouldn't be involved in the transaction, other than to make the buyer prove he is of legal age to the seller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #13 April 13, 2005 Ok, good point. I think it was a city ordinance, though. I'd have to look it up to see. I know we couldn't go anywhere in Athens to buy a keg without following those procedures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #14 April 13, 2005 I'm guessing they already do this in Utah and most of the Bible Belt where they don't already have a dry county... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #15 April 13, 2005 Quote Good question. I've never heard of a law which prohibits felons from drinking alcohol. So it makes you wonder what the point of this would be. They'll get my beer when they pry my frosty mug from my cold, dead fingers. I think the logic behind it is pretty stupid. How hard would it be to drive to the next state and buy a keg, throw it in the trunk and drive it home? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #16 April 13, 2005 Depends on how far the next state is. Closest one to me is 2 hours. I'll fill out the form. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #17 April 13, 2005 QuoteDepends on how far the next state is. Closest one to me is 2 hours. I'll fill out the form. I would fill out the form NOW, but when I was in college? No way. I would be driving.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,150 #18 April 13, 2005 I know that when I previously lived in a student heavy area, the police had big concerns about keg parties. Mostly for underage drinking, and violence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #19 April 13, 2005 Quote"Under one version, ABC officials would have the right to perform a criminal background check on a would-be keg buyer, at the applicant's expense. Interesting. So, let's say for example, some friends are coming into town next month. So I apply for my keg permit - cost 110 dollars (for the background check). After three weeks, and a couple of days before the kegger is to start, I ask for a check on the status. "Sorry, we're backlogged. It may take 2-3 more weeks to process this application. (Government talk for, "We've got your money. We'll get around to it when we feel like it.") Or, what about this one? My keg runs dry through a party on Saturday night. Oops. No refills... What about my nice bar with a keg of Firestone Double Barrel tapped in it. After 4 months, it's all gone. Better wait up. What a crock of shit... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #20 April 13, 2005 QuoteThe "logic" behind it being it would prevent teens from drinking That was the excuse for making it a felony to ship wine direct to people in many states. You just know that teenage kids are lurking to shell out $30 for a well aged Cab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #21 April 13, 2005 QuoteI know that when I previously lived in a student heavy area, the police had big concerns about keg parties. Mostly for underage drinking, and violence. Okay, so what makes the police think that the beer-buyer is going to tell the truth and put down a correct address on the registration form? They can't be that naive... Then the legislature will have to make it a crime to lie on the registration form, so that they can punish beer-buyers who are caught at keg parties at other than the listed address. And then they'll realize that partiers are just buying a whole lot of cases instead of kegs, to get around the registration. So then they'll apply the same rule to any purchase over one case of beer. And so on, as we march down the road to tyranny from stupid laws. Revolt! Drink your beer without telling the government! My only regret is that I have but one six-pack to drink to my country. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #22 April 13, 2005 I thought this was to track where the kegs had been sold from in order to follow up with the "drink so much you die" thing. I'm still trying to figure out how registering a key would prevent that. I think it's pretty easy to figure out where the keg comes from.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #23 April 14, 2005 So, are they going to put serial numbers on kegs or set up DUI roadblocks at both ends of the street? -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #24 April 14, 2005 QuoteSo, are they going to put serial numbers on kegs or set up DUI roadblocks at both ends of the street? Police: "Let me see your passport keg papers!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #25 April 14, 2005 QuoteI thought this was to track where the kegs had been sold from in order to follow up with the "drink so much you die" thing. I'm still trying to figure out how registering a key would prevent that. I think it's pretty easy to figure out where the keg comes from. Its not to figure out where it came from, but who bought it. This is really a college town thing. If a party gets busted and there are a bunch of underage kids there, they find out who bought the keg and charge him/her with contributing. They believe it will cut down on underage drinking because people of age will be reluctant to provide alcohol to those under age. Its a nice theory, but college kids will just have "case" parties instead of "keg" parties. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites