DiverDiver 0 #1 January 14, 2005 Have ben reading alot lately about how bad the military is and how we should not be in iraq and alot more negative things. Just wanted to say thanks for serving....you are all great and I admire what you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #2 January 14, 2005 Thanks Dave FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebecca 0 #3 January 14, 2005 Same here - to all who serve, have served, will serve, and their families: THANK YOU, from my heart. you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel loquacious?' -- well do you, punk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #4 January 14, 2005 Same for meTHANK YOU"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #5 January 15, 2005 I support our troops and their families. and really haven't read many negative stories about our troops in Iraq or afghanistan. Wish you guy's didn't have to be there come home and enjoy your familiesThe military leadership OTOH imo is way behind the eight ball. But we'll see if they can pull the rabbit out of the hat Good for them if they doR.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tantalum 0 #6 January 15, 2005 I don't! And neither does the rest of the world...even the latest CIA report now declares that Iraq has become the new breeding ground for terrorists thanks to the involvement of our forces. After all, German, Japanese, and Italian soldiers also just PROUDLY served in WWII. Maybe it's time to admire those guys refusing a second tour (deployment) to Iraq based on their first-hand experience. And then being charged with desertion by some desk warriors? Edited for last paragraph. QuoteHave ben reading alot lately about how bad the military is and how we should not be in iraq and alot more negative things. Just wanted to say thanks for serving....you are all great and I admire what you do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osuskydiver 0 #7 January 15, 2005 QuoteI don't! And neither does the rest of the world...even the latest CIA report now declares that Iraq has become the new breeding ground for terrorists thanks to the involvement of our forces. After all, German, Japanese, and Italian soldiers also just PROUDLY served in WWII. Maybe it's time to admire those guys refusing a second tour (deployment) to Iraq based on their first-hand experience. And then being charged with desertion by some desk warriors? Edited for last paragraph.Quote you don't admire people serving in the US military? wow.....i don't even know how to respond to that. WOW.....very shallow. By the time you read this you have already read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ahegeman 0 #8 January 15, 2005 QuoteThe military leadership OTOH imo is way behind the eight ball. Isn't that how it always is?--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #9 January 15, 2005 Thanks to everyone who serves in the military, and I pray that the powers that be guide their leaders to make wise choices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rickjump1 0 #10 January 15, 2005 Just come home safe and sound.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #11 January 15, 2005 what a great post to start Diver. Special thanks to my bud here *(you know who you are) who is serving....1 and 1/2 yrs. to go. Keep up the great work, and I'm glad you didn't get hurt. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefalle 0 #12 January 15, 2005 thanks to all of you, be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites flyangel2 2 #13 January 15, 2005 Yes, thanks to all that server or have servered our country. If any of you are interested, Homer, who post off and on here, is overseas right now. I'm sure he'd love to get more then just my PMs.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tantalum 0 #14 January 15, 2005 I truely appreciate your comment, hence I want to take the time to reply. Yes, serving our country and defending it, is honorable: serving in our forces is honorable. However, it is NOT honorable to invade a country just to take over it's natural riches for profit. Iraq never threatened us or had the means to attack us. All the 1,300+ military personnel who have died, have died in vain: They didn't die to defend your or my freedom, they did not die for the Republic. They died for Exxon, Halliburton, Cheney, Bush, etc. Believe it or not, but some ppl will get very rich off of these killings. Quote you don't admire people serving in the US military? wow.....i don't even know how to respond to that. WOW.....very shallow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tcnelson 1 #15 January 15, 2005 too bad people like you get lumped into those we're obligated to defend. hugs and kisses."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tantalum 0 #16 January 15, 2005 Ted: I am not gay, re: hugs and kisses. But if you are, I will defend you and your rights! And I will always be willing to shake your hand... Quotetoo bad people like you get lumped into those we're obligated to defend. hugs and kisses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tcnelson 1 #17 January 15, 2005 hahahahaha! please defend my rights by enlisting and not with your mouth."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tantalum 0 #18 January 15, 2005 Ted, both you and I know that you are as gay as "Richard Simmons". Nothing wrong with that! After all, Richard giving weight-loss classes to our troups in Baghdad is true to the cause. Now, if our boys just ever could stay off McD...even under fire. Quotehahahahaha! please defend my rights by enlisting and not with your mouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #19 January 15, 2005 the troops go where they're ordered to go. If you have a problem with what the military is doing, look to its leaders, not its troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tantalum 0 #20 January 15, 2005 That's a most excellent point! However, what if there was war and nobody showed up (or refused to show up)? Really curious as to your response. Don't we all need to take personal responsibilities (rather than delegating them?). P.S.: As an SD Instructor, I have to face certain responsibilities that I am unable to abdicate at 3k ft. Same as a rigger. Quotethe troops go where they're ordered to go. If you have a problem with what the military is doing, look to its leaders, not its troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites shropshire 0 #21 January 15, 2005 Very good point. In the military you do not have the luxury of questioning orders. It's not your job. If you don't like it..don't sign up. and for the rest of you that have never served.. thank your lucky stars that there are those out there that have and so you dont have to. P.S I personally do not agree with the current situation .. but I do have the luxury of whinging about it from the safety of my own home. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Nightingale 0 #22 January 15, 2005 soldiers don't have all the information that the leaders do. they have to trust that their COs are making the right calls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #23 January 16, 2005 QuoteAll the 1,300+ military personnel who have died, have died in vain: Edited because first post was a bit rough... But, you have no right IMHO to say that those people died in vain, that's pretty messed up actually.. They died fighting for their country, whether you agree with why they were fighting or not.. That is NOT in vain no matter how you feel. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nate_1979 9 #24 January 16, 2005 Quote However, what if there was war and nobody showed up (or refused to show up)? If our military had that attitude, we wouldnt have a country to defend. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites windcatcher 0 #25 January 16, 2005 QuoteBut, you have no right IMHO to say that those people died in vain, that's pretty messed up actually.. They died fighting for their country, whether you agree with why they were fighting or not.. That is NOT in vain no matter how you feel. Yes, that is right Nate. 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ahegeman 0 #8 January 15, 2005 QuoteThe military leadership OTOH imo is way behind the eight ball. Isn't that how it always is?--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #9 January 15, 2005 Thanks to everyone who serves in the military, and I pray that the powers that be guide their leaders to make wise choices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #10 January 15, 2005 Just come home safe and sound.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #11 January 15, 2005 what a great post to start Diver. Special thanks to my bud here *(you know who you are) who is serving....1 and 1/2 yrs. to go. Keep up the great work, and I'm glad you didn't get hurt. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #12 January 15, 2005 thanks to all of you, be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #13 January 15, 2005 Yes, thanks to all that server or have servered our country. If any of you are interested, Homer, who post off and on here, is overseas right now. I'm sure he'd love to get more then just my PMs.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tantalum 0 #14 January 15, 2005 I truely appreciate your comment, hence I want to take the time to reply. Yes, serving our country and defending it, is honorable: serving in our forces is honorable. However, it is NOT honorable to invade a country just to take over it's natural riches for profit. Iraq never threatened us or had the means to attack us. All the 1,300+ military personnel who have died, have died in vain: They didn't die to defend your or my freedom, they did not die for the Republic. They died for Exxon, Halliburton, Cheney, Bush, etc. Believe it or not, but some ppl will get very rich off of these killings. Quote you don't admire people serving in the US military? wow.....i don't even know how to respond to that. WOW.....very shallow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #15 January 15, 2005 too bad people like you get lumped into those we're obligated to defend. hugs and kisses."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tantalum 0 #16 January 15, 2005 Ted: I am not gay, re: hugs and kisses. But if you are, I will defend you and your rights! And I will always be willing to shake your hand... Quotetoo bad people like you get lumped into those we're obligated to defend. hugs and kisses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #17 January 15, 2005 hahahahaha! please defend my rights by enlisting and not with your mouth."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tantalum 0 #18 January 15, 2005 Ted, both you and I know that you are as gay as "Richard Simmons". Nothing wrong with that! After all, Richard giving weight-loss classes to our troups in Baghdad is true to the cause. Now, if our boys just ever could stay off McD...even under fire. Quotehahahahaha! please defend my rights by enlisting and not with your mouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #19 January 15, 2005 the troops go where they're ordered to go. If you have a problem with what the military is doing, look to its leaders, not its troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tantalum 0 #20 January 15, 2005 That's a most excellent point! However, what if there was war and nobody showed up (or refused to show up)? Really curious as to your response. Don't we all need to take personal responsibilities (rather than delegating them?). P.S.: As an SD Instructor, I have to face certain responsibilities that I am unable to abdicate at 3k ft. Same as a rigger. Quotethe troops go where they're ordered to go. If you have a problem with what the military is doing, look to its leaders, not its troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #21 January 15, 2005 Very good point. In the military you do not have the luxury of questioning orders. It's not your job. If you don't like it..don't sign up. and for the rest of you that have never served.. thank your lucky stars that there are those out there that have and so you dont have to. P.S I personally do not agree with the current situation .. but I do have the luxury of whinging about it from the safety of my own home. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #22 January 15, 2005 soldiers don't have all the information that the leaders do. they have to trust that their COs are making the right calls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #23 January 16, 2005 QuoteAll the 1,300+ military personnel who have died, have died in vain: Edited because first post was a bit rough... But, you have no right IMHO to say that those people died in vain, that's pretty messed up actually.. They died fighting for their country, whether you agree with why they were fighting or not.. That is NOT in vain no matter how you feel. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #24 January 16, 2005 Quote However, what if there was war and nobody showed up (or refused to show up)? If our military had that attitude, we wouldnt have a country to defend. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windcatcher 0 #25 January 16, 2005 QuoteBut, you have no right IMHO to say that those people died in vain, that's pretty messed up actually.. They died fighting for their country, whether you agree with why they were fighting or not.. That is NOT in vain no matter how you feel. Yes, that is right Nate. People have died and will continue to die for this country. No one should say they have died in vain. Mother to the cutest little thing in the world... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
