GeekStreak 0 #1 June 21, 2001 Number of physicians in the US: 700,000.Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year: 120,000.Accidental deaths per physician.... 0.171(U.S. Dept. of Health & Human Services)Number of gun owners in the US: 80,000,000.Number of accidental gun deaths per year(all age groups) 1,500.Accidental deaths per gun owner: 0.0000188(* Benton County News Tribune on 17th of November, 1999).Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners."Remember, Not everyone has a gun, but everyone has at least one Doctor."Please alert your friends to this alarming threat.We must ban doctors before this gets out of hand.Remember guns don't kill people, doctors do!1111,GeekStreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #3 June 21, 2001 Ummm... your accidental gun deaths number seems alot higher than what I've seen elsewhere. Where did you get that one? Are you sure you are only including accidents?The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fizinjen 0 #4 June 21, 2001 Yeah, I can believe the accidental deaths stats. There is so much negligence from medical personnel these days. I even know some doctors who don't give a rat's ass about their patients' health and well-being. It's sickening to think that you could go to be treated for something so minor and die due to someone's screwup. I do give credit to some doctors, nurses, etc..., but not many. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #5 June 21, 2001 But think of how much more time doctors would have to spend giving quality care to the sick if they weren't dealing with so many gunshot-wound traumas. Karl, I like you, but I have to disagree on this issue. I responded to your post in the other (Zero tolerance hysteria) thread.Justin"If it can't kill you, it isn't worth doing." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeekStreak 0 #6 June 21, 2001 Funny how things work eh? I posted this because I thought it was a funny comparison... doctors vs. guns... the same day SpeedRacer posted Zero Tolerance HysteriaI have no idea if those numbers are correct... but next time I go to the doctor I'm taking my gun!! 1111,GeekStreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeekStreak 0 #7 June 21, 2001 QuoteKarl, I like you, but I have to disagree on this issue.Awwww... I like you too, Justin . It's OK if we disagree. This is America! That's what we do here. Now if we could all just get along... I guess we disagree on MD also . I'm leaving as soon as I can to someplace warm (hopefully in TX). You can stay. It's OK with me.1111,GeekStreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #8 June 21, 2001 QuoteI'm leaving as soon as I can to someplace warm (hopefully in TX).You don't have my permission to leave until we get a jump in together. Justin"If it can't kill you, it isn't worth doing." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeekStreak 0 #9 June 21, 2001 Well that should be easy. I'll probably be here for another 9 years! lol!!!!1111,GeekStreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #11 June 22, 2001 What if I "accidentally" kill a physician, make it look like an accident, and happen to get some lawyers in there too! Where do the statistics show up? What if I use my gun but dont fire it? Inquiring minds want to know!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #12 June 22, 2001 That's the thing, the number of accidental gun deaths in this country is only about 50 a year and last I checked it has declined over time. Most likely this decline is caused by the NRA's education programs that the gun grabbers hate so much.The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 June 22, 2001 Actually, accidental gun deaths are the lowest now since 1903 when records started to be kept. The number of gun owners in America is also the highest it has EVER been (well since 1903, once again...) :) EERR-RAH!AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grasshopper 0 #14 June 22, 2001 torture the data enough and it will tell you anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #15 June 22, 2001 That goes both ways, Grasshopper. Much of the data that the anti-gun rights people display talking about "children" shooting incidents include a lot of *other* data. Like including all the data for not 1-18yr olds but including all the way to the age of 25 which increases the numbers greatly for a few reasons. 1. The number of people participating in gang violence are between the ages of 18 to 23. 2. Leagally at the age of 21 a person can purchase firearms. 3. The list could go on, but I have to goto work. :( (well I have to get those lift tickets some how...)AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacophony 0 #16 June 22, 2001 Doctors suck. Thats what they get for going to 8 years of college and dedicating their lifes work to helping people. They should all be banished from the earth. If I need a heart transplant then I guess thats what the Almighty put spoons on this earth for.Safe landings,Alex D-23912 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloud9 0 #17 June 22, 2001 QuoteThats what they get for going to 8 years of college and dedicating their lifes work to helping people. Well here's a whole new topic. I find most doctors to be arrogant asses who are dedicated to the dollar, praying on innocent people that have no other options.Some fun eh! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #18 June 22, 2001 The first post is an example of abusing statistics to satisfy a political agenda. You can't compare number of deaths by doctors to number of deaths by gun owners. It's just the wrong question to ask.Consider this: Just about anyone who is dying of anything will be visited by a doctor at some point during the time period when their health is declining just before death.Therefore, if you really wanted to be stupid, you could just use those numbers to blame doctors for virtually all deaths.Hey, maybe these people were lying in bed before they died. That would mean that beds kill more people than guns!!BAN THE BEDS!!Speed Racer"De plaene!! De plaene!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diver123 0 #19 June 22, 2001 that's what I've been getting at for years!!! :)"pull high! It's lower than you think..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jessica 0 #20 June 22, 2001 QuoteDoctors suck. Thats what they get for going to 8 years of college and dedicating their lifes work to helping people. They should all be banished from the earth. If I need a heart transplant then I guess thats what the Almighty put spoons on this earth for.Very nice, Alex. Agreed.Why the hostility toward a noble profession? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeekStreak 0 #21 June 23, 2001 QuoteThe first post is an example of abusing statistics to satisfy a political agenda.The first post is an example of abusing statistics to satisfy a desire for laughter.1111,GeekStreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doasfu 0 #22 June 23, 2001 QuoteThe first post is an example of abusing statistics to satisfy a desire for laughter.Easy now... drop the mouse and step back from the computer and nobody gets hurt. Why don't we just get back to abusing statistics to try and convince ourselves that skydiving is safe? Sheesh!Dan"Oh, you went to a movie this weekend? That's nice. Me? Not much." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
