zelda 0 #1 June 25, 2001 Fatality at Lodi...http://www.thekcrachannel.com/sac/news/localnews/stories/news-localnews-83908920010624-190640.html-This is a terrible news story, by the way.My prayers for the family...blues-zelda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhonda66 0 #2 June 25, 2001 Sadly it looks legit to me...but what a bogus article. They seemed completely obsessed with the fact that other jumpers continued to jump after the fatality - should we close highways for hours or days after a fatal car accident has been cleared too? I think that was one of the worst reports I've seen yet and they're usually all pretty bad - anyone have the real info. on this incident? Sounds as if it was not a US jumper....My condolences to the family and friends.Rhonda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelda 0 #3 June 25, 2001 I have yet to see a mainstream media report on skydiving that wasn't completely botched; they seem much more interested in stirring the pot and muckraking than in getting an objective and accurate story. In the past few months it's begun to look like the mission of the Lodi-area media is to get that DZ shut down. There was actually an editorial in the Lodi newspaper shortly after Jan Davis died which seemed to imply that the Lodi DZ has a higher than normal fatality rate, and that it's because the DZ is not a USPA Group Memember. Interestingly, the writer didn't appear to have even done some cursory research into fatality rates for DZs of comparable size (or any size, for that matter). No doubt they'll be at it again after this.-zelda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pyke 0 #4 June 25, 2001 God damn, poorly written journalism pisses me off!!!Not one mention of how other malfunctions happen and how he was trained to recognise and deal with a malfunction, not one mention (from the journalist) about how safe the systems in place are (kudos to Ray), and with this whole..."and the band played on" CRAP!!! yeah, what the hell are we supposed to do, close EVERY road, or every lane of a freeway when there is a fatality (yeah Rhonda66!) And what about the other jumper's account, "Whew, I am glad I knew that after I jumped". guess what sweetie...if you think that nobody died before you jumped...I got some land in Florida to sell you!!!Damn, I hate that.If anyone knows more, please fill us in.My condolences go to the family of the victim, and the other jumpers who might have been there/on the load/seen it.Gutentag and blue skies!!Kia Kaha,PykeNZPF A - 2584 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #5 June 26, 2001 my condolanceswhat the hell is this"He was spinning out of control, and I said, 'Oh, he's freefalling.' And the kids said, 'No, he's out of control,'" Kim Reynolds said. "Then the chute opened up and I said, 'Oh, good, the chute is going up.' (But) chute went up and body went flying down." i read that like 10 times and it still makes no sense and its like a 5 year old wrote it , and I said, And the kids said, Kim Reynolds said. and I said, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #6 June 26, 2001 I think I covered this subject pretty good in another post somewhere about idiotic journalists...And guess what...they are still at it...bunch of dumb, stupid, weird, uninformed, slandering sons of bitches... Sorry I got fucking carried away here. I just think that anyone that wants to be a journalist should not be allowed to print anything until they have proven themselves worthy and can actually write intelligently...instead of graduating from their schools with no education and/or humanity about themselves...My heart goes out to this jumper, his family and friends...May he rest in God's hands... FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
what42 0 #7 June 26, 2001 Quotei read that like 10 times and it still makes no sense and its like a 5 year old wrote it , and I said, And the kids said, Kim Reynolds said. and I said, Did you watch the video that went along with the article? I'm not sure what she meant either but it has her interview in there.Wesley--I want to fly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk 2 #8 June 26, 2001 na my internets slow so it would take hours to download Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
what42 0 #9 June 26, 2001 Quotena my internets slow so it would take hours to downloadYou have my condolances...I'm not sure I could be without my cable-modem. Wesley--I want to fly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #10 June 26, 2001 My condolences to the family, friends and other people involved. And to all of us, as well. Perhaps why diving continued may have been as a way to demonstrate respect, and to affirm our commitment to ourselves, safety, and indescribable joy that we all have in this sport. Another note: Here's an interesting thing which they post on their "contact us" page:"Home Page/FeedbackYou've probably gathered by now that we're really intofeedback. There is a "Contact KCRA" link on the top ofvirtually every page of this site.Let us know what you think!You can contact the station by phone at (916) 446-3333.To reach the news department, call (916) 444-7316.Web Staff: [email protected] Anchors & Reporters:[email protected] News Comments: [email protected] News Tips: [email protected] Call3:[email protected] KCRA Programming: [email protected] Promotions:[email protected] Engineering:[email protected] Sales:[email protected] Advertising:[email protected] Public Affairs: [email protected] General Manager:[email protected] "+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Shall we?I will. bleau cieux - Michele Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallfreak 0 #11 June 26, 2001 Quote Shall we? I will. I did...Thank you... FFF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 June 26, 2001 Me too.AggieDave '02-------------Blue Skies and Gig'em Ags!BTHO t.u. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dutchboy 0 #14 June 26, 2001 I got bounced e-mail from the newscomments address!The Dutchboyhttp://www.geocities.com/ppolstra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #16 June 26, 2001 I sent an e-mail to the General Manager - it went through w/no problems. Of course, there has been no reply (not like I am expecting one), but I know it got there.best - Michele Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffGordon 0 #17 June 26, 2001 sent my 2 cents to the gm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mouth 0 #18 June 26, 2001 I feel for the victim and his family. Imagine how they felt reading that. The article would never have passed one of my 4th grade English classes much less been printed. I do hope someone from the DZ actually spoke directly to the family and explained what happened. I think we all look on fellow skydivers as family, so when one of our family dies we need to continue doing what they loved doing....skydiving. I know we all jumped after Michele died. The plane was extremely quiet and many tears were shed, but we jumped because that is what she would have wanted us to do. The Memorial Dive brought in large numbers of jumpers just to honor her. That is how we show our love and respect for a fallen jumper. It is also how I finally found my peace. The gm is getting a note from me too. Maybe these people just need a little (ok, a lot) of education about our sport. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #19 June 26, 2001 If I'm not mistaken, Lodi has historically had problems with bad press coverage. It's almost like someone in the local newsmedia has something out for skydiving and Lodi in particular.My condolences to the jumper's family, friends and all the folks at Lodi. You guys have had some bad luck lately with JanDevil & now this.------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GeekStreak 0 #20 June 26, 2001 done1111,GeekStreak Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #21 June 26, 2001 I'm sorry for this terrible accident and hope his family receives the proper condolencesIn response to that "news" article, did anyone notice the "headlines" listed on that page?8 out of the 15 have to do with death, murder, or assault. It appears this news source is out for shock value and scare tactics in order to increase readership. I'm not suprised at the quality of the article. And apparently they couldn't find any experienced skydivers to get their comments on the incident. Just some girl who giggled when she found out about someone's tragic death.Mother Of Abandoned Baby FoundJune Rains Bring Summer PainsBlood Drive To Honor Pit Bull Attack VictimWoman's Killer Still UnknownSearch Is On For Killer Of Delivery ManThis SUV Gets 30 Miles Per GallonHuge Volleyball Festival Under WayTalks Under Way To Hash Out Power BillsBody Found In Tracy CanalCarry Illegal Fireworks, Go To JailSacramento Child-Welfare Agency Hit With SanctionPet Wolves Find New HomeFatal Stabbing Victim RememberedBaby Found In Garbage Chute RecoveringSkydiver Falls To Death In Lodi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #22 June 26, 2001 Quotedid anyone notice the "headlines" listed on that page?My what an uplifting selection of articles. Glad they're on the beat watching out for our best interests. ------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
what42 0 #23 June 26, 2001 My condolences to his family and friends.I wish the news sources would make more effort than this. Bad information helps no one.Wesley--I want to fly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwagDiva 0 #24 June 28, 2001 FYI...the student was jumping their 4th static line jump had a line over malfunction and did not cutaway immediately. Finally, he cutaway and opened reserve but it was not enough to prevent his death. It is very unfortunate and the channel 3 news man was very sneaky and the article was all wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #25 June 28, 2001 Sniff...sniff...Is that libel I smell?------------Blue Skies!Zennie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
