rapper4mpi 0 #1 September 5, 2002 This quote appeared in a weekly DZ newsletter: "So... there I was, beautiful Saturday, getting all geared up for my fourth jump, and someone runs into the hangar yelling "HOLY S**T!!!!! Frankenotter just groud looped!!!" Picture below... The landing gear snapped on the left side on landing. All is fine, though. It should be repaired and flying back to CSS today. More importantly, noone got hurt. Mario is an AWESOME pilot for saving it from more extensive damage.... Anyway, thought I would pass this along since I hadn't seen it anywhere. -Rap Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #2 September 5, 2002 That was my quote, and I posted it on here on monday or something... anyhow, here's the pic if you missed it... Damage was minimal, thanks to Mario the pilot. _________________________________________ Did I just kill another thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #3 September 5, 2002 Why did the landing gear come off in the first place? You know, DeHavilland built the Otter like a tank. The landing gear doesn't "just fall off" randomly. "Shit" does NOT happen all the time. Anyone care to explain this?Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #4 September 5, 2002 well, driver, i'm no expert, nor am I a pilot, but what the machanic told me in passing is that there was a crack under a weld that "couldn't have been seen". When I went to check it out, it didn't look like it just "decided" to snap off... there looked like the was rust run-off near the break... That's about all I know. Like I said, I'm no expert...I attached a pic of the gear, this may illuminate someone with a little more knowledge... _________________________________________ Did I just kill another thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #5 September 5, 2002 Rust? I wonder if they've ever heard of a 100 hour inspection? Cracks don't appear over night. Thanks for the photo.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #6 September 5, 2002 Like I said, I'm NO expert!!!!! And the last thing I want is something like this to ruin otter boogies in Canada! We rarely get the chance to jump an otter here, and now people down south are getting wiser and sending them up during their "slow" season. I hope this won't stop because of what happened! _________________________________________ Did I just kill another thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #7 September 5, 2002 I doubt very much it had anything to do with the fact that it was in Canada. I believe you will be able to find aircraft with no problem. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #8 September 5, 2002 Quotethe last thing I want is something like this to ruin otter boogies in Canada! Dammitt....BLAME CANADA!!! They broke the Frankenotter!!! Those bastards!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #9 September 5, 2002 QuoteDammitt....BLAME CANADA!!! They broke the Frankenotter!!! Those bastards!!!! Don't blame Canada. Painting it is what cursed it. They should've just left it alone to be ugly. Maybe they used Canadian paint....hmm ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #10 September 5, 2002 Quote Painting it is what cursed it. They should've just left it alone to be ugly. She wasn't ugly before the paint, she had character. I miss the old Frankenotter -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #11 September 5, 2002 QuotePainting it is what cursed it. Right....it's all because of a big curse. Has nothing to do with inspections. Right. [safety bitch hairs on back of kneck now standing straight up] Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheBile 0 #12 September 5, 2002 QuoteThe only thing you can blame Canada for is Celine Dion.Gerb I stir feelings in others they themselves don't understand. KA'CHOW ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bluefingers 0 #13 September 5, 2002 ROTFLMAO! Kerry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jraf 0 #14 September 5, 2002 QuoteQuoteThe only thing you can blame Canada for is Celine Dion. Newfies, blame it all on the Newfies!!!!jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #15 September 5, 2002 QuoteQuotePainting it is what cursed it. Right....it's all because of a big curse. Has nothing to do with inspections. Right. [safety bitch hairs on back of kneck now standing straight up] Chris Chris is correct. The metal skin and welded steel on any airplane will expand and contract to a degree as an airplane ascends and descends. Weld points and attachment points are where most failures will occur, because that is were fatigue from stresses will push the metal to seperate. An inspection should have caught this. It's not "random" circumstance. Speaking of fatigue... I wonder if the C-130 crash a couple months ago when the wings folded up could have been prevented beforehand by an inspection. ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marz 0 #16 September 5, 2002 QuoteQuote The only thing you can blame Canada for is Celine Dion. OH GOD!!! please rid us of the friggin bitch!!!! She's Satan's daughter, I'm sure of it! Quebec (non DZ)trailer trash with a voice and a big ego. Fuck, one person makes it big from Canada, and people start lobbying for buidlings and streets named after them! it's pathetic! [/rant] _________________________________________ Did I just kill another thread? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #17 September 5, 2002 QuoteAn inspection should have caught this. It's not "random" circumstance. Good lord people. It was a joke. I'm not stupid enough to beleive it was cursed from the paint job. I was feeding off of Clay's joke blaming Canada. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #18 September 5, 2002 QuoteQuote The only thing you can blame Canada for is Celine Dion. And Howie Mandell and Tom Green and William Shatner and Keanu Reeves and Rush and Bryan Adams ...it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nws01 0 #19 September 5, 2002 [Celine Dion Voice] I am ze best zinger in ze vorld. [/Celine Dion Voice] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #20 September 5, 2002 umm...since when can a tri gear airplane ground loop.....TAIL DRAGGERS GROUND LOOP.... and I sure hope fayard starts looking alittle closer. Iknow mario and I know how he lands...he lands like a navy pilot.....which is to say...hard. this should have been seen before hand by 100 hr inspections.... VERY scary....very very scary Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflir29 0 #21 September 5, 2002 Quoteumm...since when can a tri gear airplane ground loop.....TAIL DRAGGERS GROUND LOOP So does tricycle gear if you break one side off... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #22 September 5, 2002 I liked the old paint scheme, w/ the obvious separate components of like 3 aircraft cludged together. Maybe why it fell apart... Ken"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,672 #23 September 5, 2002 Quotewell, driver, i'm no expert, nor am I a pilot, but what the machanic told me in passing is that there was a crack under a weld that "couldn't have been seen". When I went to check it out, it didn't look like it just "decided" to snap off... there looked like the was rust run-off near the break... That's about all I know. Like I said, I'm no expert...I attached a pic of the gear, this may illuminate someone with a little more knowledge... As it happens, I am an expert (Ph.D. in metallurgy/materials engineering, extensive experience in failure analysis). Unfortunately your picture is not clear enough to draw a conclusion. If you could get a close-up of the fracture surface and the "rust" stains, it might be possible to figure out why it happened. BTW - fatigue cracks can be invisible to the naked eye up until the point that the component breaks, don't expect a 100 hour or annual necessarily to pick them up. That is why ultrasound/X-ray/eddy current/dye-penetrant tests were developed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #24 September 5, 2002 QuoteSo does tricycle gear if you break one side off... you know what I meant jerky.... so where's your PP at huh???? Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #25 September 5, 2002 Right, and when you have a hard landing the pilot is to ask for a gear inspection so that die penetrant can be used. Chris Schindler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
