kallend 1,683
skreamer 1
QuoteWendy, I'm praying the guy will simply resign, or become the victim of some sort of coup, and save his, and our respective countries a whole heap of heartache.
I hope so too Dave, but I don't think Bush is going to resign...
Zinger 0
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You have much more trust than I do.Quote
I Must, Either that or you have way more dis-trust.
It used to be, just 3 years ago, that an administration's records were made available to the public after an interval of 12 years. One of the first acts (pre 9/11) of Bush II was to issue an executive order cancelling this release of information. How convenient that it covered his dad's presidency! What are they hiding?
Dude I don't know, What do you think they are hiding?? Whatever it is there successful at it. Another thing they are not Failing at.
***Even after the Enron fiasco and Kenneth Lay's known friendship with Bush and Cheney, this administration refuses to reveal any details of the process it used and who it consulted to develop its energy policy. What are they hiding?
Not you or I or anyone knows for sure, I heard that one of the reasons alot of the energy policies/plans/reports and reviews where filed top secrete was due to releasing them would release much to valuable information of all major power plants and grids in the U.S. Being that there was reports specifically on the weakness of our major power plants/power grids/oil and gas refinery's/storage tanks and I also believe waterways and dams are to terrorist strikes and attacks, It don't surprise me. Not something I'd want my enemy to know let alone public knowledge.
I also heard there are other countries that don't want information released that the U.S has no problem with releasing, Why's that? What do you think? Do you think George W. Bush and family is out to get you? Think not every dollar that he has made in his life and is spent for the rest of his life won't be counted/watched by many people under close supervision? What do you think the big cospearcey is? Seems to me you think some things up.
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QuoteYou've become another victim of the US propaganda machine I fear.
You really don't have any idea where I get my information from. You are acting like we should have went into Afghanistan and immediately forced them to buy into our ideas of civil rights. It doesn't work that way. They have the opportunity now. That is about as far as we can force the issue. Now we just have to help with their stability and future change. If we tried to force it any further you would be the first to scream "American Bully". Get off of your high horse please!
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin
Jib 0
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The leadership shown by this administration has led to complete failure to capture Osama bin Laden.Quote
That is all you have, do not include me and many other in your public. This administration has done more for the war on terror in 2 years then the last U.S administration did in 8 years. Besides let it grow strength.
The failure to capture OBL (assuming he isn't dead) may have had something to do with the leaking of information to the press pertaining to how we were traking him via Sat-phone and their lack of restraint. Some wonder why we don't tell the press everything? What are we hiding? Intelligence or any information is only valuable if every moron in the world doesn't know about it.
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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
-- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt
QuoteThen present it and get the rest of the world on our side.
Are you really that naive about intelligence operations? Telling specific types of information usually gives away the source of that information thus making it useless for future intelligence gathering. If the "source" happens to be in human form (where most good intelligence comes from) then you can also place that person's life in great danger. We get a lot (if not most) of our foreign intel from people working in the foreign government who are on the payroll of the US government. It is not good practice to be getting them killed on a regular basis. The CIA and FBI consider the protection of human assets a very high priority.
I'm sure you don't believe this. Maybe one day you'll realize that you don't know everything.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin
Gawain 0
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That is all you have, do not include me and many other in your public. This administration has done more for the war on terror in 2 years then the last U.S administration did in 8 years. Besides let it grow strength.
No, I also have the miserable state of the economy as further reason for distraction.
What exactly do YOU have? The administration keeps claiming to have evidence, but no-one has yet seen any of it. Several US intelligence sources openly stated that there is no evidence linking Iraq with 9/11 or recent terrorist activities.
Um, the dot.com bubble burst was prepared under the guidance of your ol' buddy slick willy and her husband. Consult your economic data carefully.
QuoteAnd what does the previous administration have to do with the failures of this one? Maybe Nixon is to blame?
It is a well known fact that Sudan, through multiple (four, IIRC) back channel contacts in the CIA attempted to hand over UBL to Clinton. This as after we'd identified the links to the two US Embassy bombings in Africa. The Clinton administration became too consumed with the legality factors in an area where there was no real law established.
So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
"I hope so too Dave, but I don't think Bush is going to resign..."
Good to see my humour isn't totally unappreciated Will.
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He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson
He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson
Skyrad 0
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by John Robbins
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If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq
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Disagree? Well call it treason, It's the make war not love season, Even
if we have no reason,Bomb Iraq.
When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Lucius Annaeus Seneca
rhino 0
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Very Good.. lol
How about..
If you don't want your sons and daughters to die innocently in their sleep bomb SADDHAM..
If you want to be able to drink clean water bomb SADDHAM..
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lol
Rhino
Very Good.. lol
How about..
If you don't want your sons and daughters to die innocently in their sleep bomb SADDHAM..
If you want to be able to drink clean water bomb SADDHAM..
If you are horny and you know it, and you want to live to show it, if you are horny and you know it bomb SADDHAM..
lol
Rhino
kallend 1,683
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Um, the dot.com bubble burst was prepared under the guidance of your ol' buddy slick willy and her husband. Consult your economic data carefully.
What makes you think I like Clinton just because I think Bush is incompetent? Non sequitur.
QuoteAnd what does the previous administration have to do with the failures of this one? Maybe Nixon is to blame?
It is a well known fact that Sudan, through multiple (four, IIRC) back channel contacts in the CIA attempted to hand over UBL to Clinton. This as after we'd identified the links to the two US Embassy bombings in Africa. The Clinton administration became too consumed with the legality factors in an area where there was no real law established.
So what does that have to do with Bush's attempts to distract from his own failures? Maybe you'd like to address Reagan's and Bush I's materiel support for Saddam, and April Glaspie's role in precipitating the invasion of Kuwait, and who gave the Stingers to the Taliban, if you want to discuss history?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
billvon 2,476
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>You are acting like we should have went into Afghanistan and
> immediately forced them to buy into our ideas of civil rights.
Uh, no, I'm acting like the claim "we liberated the poor, downtrodden people of Afghanistan!" is a bunch of feel-good bull. In reality, we killed a bunch of them, installed a Unocal oil consultant as leader, and changed very little about how they lived. We _should_ have gotten Bin Laden and gotten out of the country as quickly as possible, since that was our stated objective.
> immediately forced them to buy into our ideas of civil rights.
Uh, no, I'm acting like the claim "we liberated the poor, downtrodden people of Afghanistan!" is a bunch of feel-good bull. In reality, we killed a bunch of them, installed a Unocal oil consultant as leader, and changed very little about how they lived. We _should_ have gotten Bin Laden and gotten out of the country as quickly as possible, since that was our stated objective.
billvon 2,476
>Maybe one day you'll realize that you don't know everything.
I know very little; so do you. I could as easily claim that there is a secret US plot to take over every country in the Middle East, and just claim that you are not enough 'in the know' to realize that. And it would be as pointless as your accusations.
We, of course, have military secrets. I would very much hope we live in a society where we would not undertake the deaths of thousands based purely on secret information, especially if that secret information could be used by inspectors to _prevent_ a war that could kill thousands. If anything, this is exactly the reasoning used to justify spying, espionage, and other questionable activities - because such activity can save lives and avoid wars. If instead we use such information to go to war and lessen the chances for peace we have perverted the very intent of our intelligence assets.
I know very little; so do you. I could as easily claim that there is a secret US plot to take over every country in the Middle East, and just claim that you are not enough 'in the know' to realize that. And it would be as pointless as your accusations.
We, of course, have military secrets. I would very much hope we live in a society where we would not undertake the deaths of thousands based purely on secret information, especially if that secret information could be used by inspectors to _prevent_ a war that could kill thousands. If anything, this is exactly the reasoning used to justify spying, espionage, and other questionable activities - because such activity can save lives and avoid wars. If instead we use such information to go to war and lessen the chances for peace we have perverted the very intent of our intelligence assets.
And Again I don't see this as "Failures"
You have much more trust than I do. It used to be, just 3 years ago, that an administration's records were made available to the public after an interval of 12 years. One of the first acts (pre 9/11) of Bush II was to issue an executive order cancelling this release of information. How convenient that it covered his dad's presidency! What are they hiding?
Even after the Enron fiasco and Kenneth Lay's known friendship with Bush and Cheney, this administration refuses to reveal any details of the process it used and who it consulted to develop its energy policy. What are they hiding?
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.