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QuoteActually all conversations should be like this, but unfortunately some people are too stubborn to reason with.
If they disagree with you, they are stubborn and unreasonable?
If people don't agree with me, I like to refer to them as "closed-minded".
Fortunately, the intelligent people always agree with me. 
QuoteQuotethe penalties are different based on motive.
So much for equal protection of the law. Interesting twist to justice.Don't think I've ever heard someone say that.
From the massachusetts state website:
Motives matter: The criminal justice system frequently differentiates the punishment assigned to a given crime and offender based on motive. For example, in many states a murder for hire is more likely to draw the death penalty, than a similar murder committed without this purpose. The distinction between murder one, murder two, and manslaughter turns largely on motive. A crime can draw dramatically different penalties, as well as a more intensive law enforcement response, if it reflects a purpose of causing violent political change—terrorism. In general, the more purposeful a criminal act, the more seriously it is regarded by the law, and the more likely it is to result in a harsher penalty.
another example...
Possession of marijuana is a misdemeanor under California Health and Safety Code Section 11357.
Possession with intent to sell any amount of marijuana is a felony. Health and Safety Code 11359.
see... motive. in both of the above examples, you have a person who possesses marijuana... however, WHY the person possesses marijuana affects how the court treats him or her.
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A well written post. I'm going to stray from your color scheme and quote sparingly. An underlying theme throughout your remarks is a belief that race is a factor in everything. I do not share this belief, as you'll see if you read on. Race doesn't really mean a damned thing to me.
Yes. If, for some reason, Latinos and European Americans are performing at very different levels at the same school, the district needs to be able to analyze why this is and adjust methods accordingly... do they need to send notices home to parents in English and Spanish? do they need to re-evaluate their programs for English Language Learners? Is there some kind of discrimination going on that needs to be addressed? Schools need to be able to look at these things.
Race is the factor here? I'd say parents' tax returns and education levels would show a much stronger correlation with student performance than race. Only those who adhere to the common stereotypes of minorities would believe otherwise.
Again you break people into groups based on race. There are poor performers from all races. Who cares what race they are? The students should be targeted for extra assistance by performance - not race. Academic tests determine who needs to be targeted. Race is irrelevant.
The race of a child has nothing to do with their academic success. You can possibly show a correlation between the two statistically, but those using such a statistic are using statistics as a drunk does a lamp post - it sure as HELL isn't for illumination. The amount of motivation they get from their parents - regardless of color - along with the child's work ethic determine his/her academic cuccess. Analyzing racial data for a reason would be beneficial only for those who believe race is a factor adhere to your tenets. I do not believe this and see absolutely no logical argument to change my belief. Again - try parents' tax returns as a metric.
And without checking underneath my bed every single night, I have no assurance that a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater isn't there. The argument you present is one based on fear. I don't buy it. Cops do their jobs well and 'tis the few bad apples that give cops some bad publicity. Unfairly targeted because of their skin color my ass. Contrary to the garbage put out by the left and their syncophant organizations, racism isn't prevalent in America today.
So much for equal protection under the law.
Nightingale, all throughout your well written and thought out post we see your assumption that race is the predominant factor in this, that, and the other. It isn't. Individuals determine who they are and what they do. Some choose to identify themselves by their race and blame their failures on everyone else being racially prejudiced. These are weak individuals who don't have the courage to face life and deal with it head on. Those are the ones who support racially discriminatory programs and scream 'racism' every time they lose or come up short in anything - it gives them an ez out from reality. They are cowards and I want no law on the books that will enable them to take this ez out in any manner.
Yes. If, for some reason, Latinos and European Americans are performing at very different levels at the same school, the district needs to be able to analyze why this is and adjust methods accordingly... do they need to send notices home to parents in English and Spanish? do they need to re-evaluate their programs for English Language Learners? Is there some kind of discrimination going on that needs to be addressed? Schools need to be able to look at these things.
Race is the factor here? I'd say parents' tax returns and education levels would show a much stronger correlation with student performance than race. Only those who adhere to the common stereotypes of minorities would believe otherwise.
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They do. However, they also need to say WHY the school is not meeting standards. They need to analyze which areas they are having problems with, and which groups are having the problems... if, for example, females are performing at a much lower rate than males in science, perhaps teaching methods need to be re evaluated... without the gender data, they can't do that. If you don't know who to target for assistance, you can't make appropriate improvements.
Again you break people into groups based on race. There are poor performers from all races. Who cares what race they are? The students should be targeted for extra assistance by performance - not race. Academic tests determine who needs to be targeted. Race is irrelevant.
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No... what I see is WHY certain children can't read...
Children who are members of ethnic minority groups other than Asian statistically perform at a lower level than those children of Asian or European American descent. There has to be a reason for this very clear breakdown... Analyzing the racial data gives us some clues as to why.
The race of a child has nothing to do with their academic success. You can possibly show a correlation between the two statistically, but those using such a statistic are using statistics as a drunk does a lamp post - it sure as HELL isn't for illumination. The amount of motivation they get from their parents - regardless of color - along with the child's work ethic determine his/her academic cuccess. Analyzing racial data for a reason would be beneficial only for those who believe race is a factor adhere to your tenets. I do not believe this and see absolutely no logical argument to change my belief. Again - try parents' tax returns as a metric.
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If we know, for example, that many more European Americans are being pulled over for speeding, we can draw one of two conclusions....
1. European Americans speed more.
2. European Americans are being unfairly targeted for speeding tickets.
If the first is true, no worries... justice is being served.
if the second is true, there is a miscarriage of justice happening, and something needs to be done. Without racial statistics, we have no assurance that people are not being targeted unfairly because of their skin color.
And without checking underneath my bed every single night, I have no assurance that a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater isn't there. The argument you present is one based on fear. I don't buy it. Cops do their jobs well and 'tis the few bad apples that give cops some bad publicity. Unfairly targeted because of their skin color my ass. Contrary to the garbage put out by the left and their syncophant organizations, racism isn't prevalent in America today.
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the penalties are different based on motive.
So much for equal protection under the law.
Nightingale, all throughout your well written and thought out post we see your assumption that race is the predominant factor in this, that, and the other. It isn't. Individuals determine who they are and what they do. Some choose to identify themselves by their race and blame their failures on everyone else being racially prejudiced. These are weak individuals who don't have the courage to face life and deal with it head on. Those are the ones who support racially discriminatory programs and scream 'racism' every time they lose or come up short in anything - it gives them an ez out from reality. They are cowards and I want no law on the books that will enable them to take this ez out in any manner.
Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!
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JACKASS POWER!!!!!!
QuoteUmmm...I said forget about the comments about McNabb.....I didn't really have a problem with his opinion on that matter. He said he thought the media needed to hype a black quarterback, and they may be entirely true. I think that was a non-story.
This post was specifically regarding his hypocrisy about drug addicts considering he is one.
This whole story is getting blown out of proportion because the white media was looking for a newsperson to hang himself
Well, guess he took care of the big and fat part....just not the idiot!
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you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....
you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me....
I WILL fly again.....
That is interesting, but I was referring to justice, not law.
In your example, you use murder. For either case to be murder, the victim is dead and is not concerned with the motive. If they stabbed them twelve times, do they get a longer sentence than only 4 times? If they are angrier?
In England, Christine English murdered her boyfriend by ramming him into a utility pole. She confessed, but said she had PMS. She was not convicted.
Is "I was in a bad mood..." a defense? Apparently that is an acceptable motive.
I have been hit by racists, rednecks, and drunks. It hurts the same. The response was identical.
One set of rules for everyone. That is justice.
In your example, you use murder. For either case to be murder, the victim is dead and is not concerned with the motive. If they stabbed them twelve times, do they get a longer sentence than only 4 times? If they are angrier?
In England, Christine English murdered her boyfriend by ramming him into a utility pole. She confessed, but said she had PMS. She was not convicted.
Is "I was in a bad mood..." a defense? Apparently that is an acceptable motive.
I have been hit by racists, rednecks, and drunks. It hurts the same. The response was identical.
One set of rules for everyone. That is justice.
a well written post.
thank you.
An underlying theme throughout your remarks is a belief that race is a factor in everything.
Actually, I don't think race should be a factor in very many things. It will always be a factor in medicine, because there are different health risks associated with different races... for example, being African American puts you at a much higher risk of Sickle Cell Anemia than if you were any other race. Its a genetic protection... if you have or are a genetic carrier of Sickle Cell, you are immune to malaria.
The reason we need to continue to collect racial data is, frankly, that 1960 was not that long ago. There are still people out there who actively discriminate. Trust me, I've worked for one... I used to work in an apartment complex as a leasing agent. My supervisor actively discouraged us from renting to Latinos. He was of a firm belief that they would overoccupy their apartments, leave things a mess, and not pay their rent. I ignored him and followed the law (rent to anyone who meets qualifications, regardless of race, color, gender, handicap, country of origin, religion, familial status, or sexual orientation). but there were other people working there who were afraid of losing their jobs, and did what he wanted. Discrimination on the basis of race is illegal.... however if racial data is not collected, the authorities will never realize that, in an area that has a large Latino population, out of a building of 400 apartments, only 6 are occupied by Latinos. Without this data, the department of housing and urban development would have NO WAY to prove that a crime has been committed. That's why collecting racial data is important. Without it, this guy couldn't be prosecuted. (I have reported the situation to HUD... did so the day after I quit).
I do not share this belief, as you'll see if you read on. Race doesn't really mean a damned thing to me.
Yes. If, for some reason, Latinos and European Americans are performing at very different levels at the same school, the district needs to be able to analyze why this is and adjust methods accordingly... do they need to send notices home to parents in English and Spanish? do they need to re-evaluate their programs for English Language Learners? Is there some kind of discrimination going on that needs to be addressed? Schools need to be able to look at these things.
Race is the factor here?
no... race MAY BE a factor.
I'd say parents' tax returns and education levels would show a much stronger correlation with student performance than race. Only those who adhere to the common stereotypes of minorities would believe otherwise.
parents education levels are a good indicator. However, without tracking racial data, we would not know that sending handouts home written in English and in Spanish would help the situation... we wouldn't know that the school may need to hire a translator to help teachers communicate with parents.
They do. However, they also need to say WHY the school is not meeting standards. They need to analyze which areas they are having problems with, and which groups are having the problems... if, for example, females are performing at a much lower rate than males in science, perhaps teaching methods need to be re evaluated... without the gender data, they can't do that. If you don't know who to target for assistance, you can't make appropriate improvements.
Again you break people into groups based on race. There are poor performers from all races. Who cares what race they are? The students should be targeted for extra assistance by performance - not race. Academic tests determine who needs to be targeted. Race is irrelevant.
um... I broke people into GENDER in the above example... not race. The law also prohibits collecting data based on gender. Those of us who are female and have been routinely passed over for promotion know this kind of discrimination is alive and well. Women still make less than men. Without the data, we can't track that.
No... what I see is WHY certain children can't read...
Children who are members of ethnic minority groups other than Asian statistically perform at a lower level than those children of Asian or European American descent. There has to be a reason for this very clear breakdown... Analyzing the racial data gives us some clues as to why.
The race of a child has nothing to do with their academic success.
It has been shown in study after study that CULTURE has much to do with academic success... Read up on the Kameamea Schools in Hawaii if you want more information there. Tracking someone's race is a fairly reliable way of tracking culture.
You can possibly show a correlation between the two statistically, but those using such a statistic are using statistics as a drunk does a lamp post - it sure as HELL isn't for illumination. The amount of motivation they get from their parents - regardless of color - along with the child's work ethic determine his/her academic cuccess.
I feel it is safe to say you are not a teacher. A child's culture has quite a lot to do with his or her academic success... again, read up on Kameamea. Focus on why the Kameamea schools came about (native Hawaiians were failing in public schools across the board in Hawaii) and what happened (the state, with assistance, designed programs that took into account the culture of native Hawaiians... academic success took off)
Analyzing racial data for a reason would be beneficial only for those who believe race is a factor adhere to your tenets.
see above example of kameamea
I do not believe this and see absolutely no logical argument to change my belief. Again - try parents' tax returns as a metric.
again, see kameamea
If we know, for example, that many more European Americans are being pulled over for speeding, we can draw one of two conclusions....
1. European Americans speed more.
2. European Americans are being unfairly targeted for speeding tickets.
If the first is true, no worries... justice is being served.
if the second is true, there is a miscarriage of justice happening, and something needs to be done. Without racial statistics, we have no assurance that people are not being targeted unfairly because of their skin color.
And without checking underneath my bed every single night, I have no assurance that a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater isn't there. The argument you present is one based on fear.
I've seen discrimination in action. see above example of the apartment complex. I assure you, race is still an issue in many things that it shouldn't be an issue in. Tracking racial data is the only way to fix this.
I don't buy it. Cops do their jobs well and 'tis the few bad apples that give cops some bad publicity. Unfairly targeted because of their skin color my ass. Contrary to the garbage put out by the left and their syncophant organizations, racism isn't prevalent in America today.
its much more prevalent than you think.
So much for equal protection under the law.
Nightingale, all throughout your well written and thought out post we see your assumption that race is the predominant factor in this, that, and the other. It isn't. Individuals determine who they are and what they do. Some choose to identify themselves by their race and blame their failures on everyone else being racially prejudiced.
sometimes, they are being discriminated against. sometimes they're not. tracking racial data gives us the information to accurately determine whether or not the person has a case.
These are weak individuals who don't have the courage to face life and deal with it head on. Those are the ones who support racially discriminatory programs and scream 'racism' every time they lose or come up short in anything - it gives them an ez out from reality. They are cowards and I want no law on the books that will enable them to take this ez out in any manner.
thank you.
An underlying theme throughout your remarks is a belief that race is a factor in everything.
Actually, I don't think race should be a factor in very many things. It will always be a factor in medicine, because there are different health risks associated with different races... for example, being African American puts you at a much higher risk of Sickle Cell Anemia than if you were any other race. Its a genetic protection... if you have or are a genetic carrier of Sickle Cell, you are immune to malaria.
The reason we need to continue to collect racial data is, frankly, that 1960 was not that long ago. There are still people out there who actively discriminate. Trust me, I've worked for one... I used to work in an apartment complex as a leasing agent. My supervisor actively discouraged us from renting to Latinos. He was of a firm belief that they would overoccupy their apartments, leave things a mess, and not pay their rent. I ignored him and followed the law (rent to anyone who meets qualifications, regardless of race, color, gender, handicap, country of origin, religion, familial status, or sexual orientation). but there were other people working there who were afraid of losing their jobs, and did what he wanted. Discrimination on the basis of race is illegal.... however if racial data is not collected, the authorities will never realize that, in an area that has a large Latino population, out of a building of 400 apartments, only 6 are occupied by Latinos. Without this data, the department of housing and urban development would have NO WAY to prove that a crime has been committed. That's why collecting racial data is important. Without it, this guy couldn't be prosecuted. (I have reported the situation to HUD... did so the day after I quit).
I do not share this belief, as you'll see if you read on. Race doesn't really mean a damned thing to me.
Yes. If, for some reason, Latinos and European Americans are performing at very different levels at the same school, the district needs to be able to analyze why this is and adjust methods accordingly... do they need to send notices home to parents in English and Spanish? do they need to re-evaluate their programs for English Language Learners? Is there some kind of discrimination going on that needs to be addressed? Schools need to be able to look at these things.
Race is the factor here?
no... race MAY BE a factor.
I'd say parents' tax returns and education levels would show a much stronger correlation with student performance than race. Only those who adhere to the common stereotypes of minorities would believe otherwise.
parents education levels are a good indicator. However, without tracking racial data, we would not know that sending handouts home written in English and in Spanish would help the situation... we wouldn't know that the school may need to hire a translator to help teachers communicate with parents.
They do. However, they also need to say WHY the school is not meeting standards. They need to analyze which areas they are having problems with, and which groups are having the problems... if, for example, females are performing at a much lower rate than males in science, perhaps teaching methods need to be re evaluated... without the gender data, they can't do that. If you don't know who to target for assistance, you can't make appropriate improvements.
Again you break people into groups based on race. There are poor performers from all races. Who cares what race they are? The students should be targeted for extra assistance by performance - not race. Academic tests determine who needs to be targeted. Race is irrelevant.
um... I broke people into GENDER in the above example... not race. The law also prohibits collecting data based on gender. Those of us who are female and have been routinely passed over for promotion know this kind of discrimination is alive and well. Women still make less than men. Without the data, we can't track that.
No... what I see is WHY certain children can't read...
Children who are members of ethnic minority groups other than Asian statistically perform at a lower level than those children of Asian or European American descent. There has to be a reason for this very clear breakdown... Analyzing the racial data gives us some clues as to why.
The race of a child has nothing to do with their academic success.
It has been shown in study after study that CULTURE has much to do with academic success... Read up on the Kameamea Schools in Hawaii if you want more information there. Tracking someone's race is a fairly reliable way of tracking culture.
You can possibly show a correlation between the two statistically, but those using such a statistic are using statistics as a drunk does a lamp post - it sure as HELL isn't for illumination. The amount of motivation they get from their parents - regardless of color - along with the child's work ethic determine his/her academic cuccess.
I feel it is safe to say you are not a teacher. A child's culture has quite a lot to do with his or her academic success... again, read up on Kameamea. Focus on why the Kameamea schools came about (native Hawaiians were failing in public schools across the board in Hawaii) and what happened (the state, with assistance, designed programs that took into account the culture of native Hawaiians... academic success took off)
Analyzing racial data for a reason would be beneficial only for those who believe race is a factor adhere to your tenets.
see above example of kameamea
I do not believe this and see absolutely no logical argument to change my belief. Again - try parents' tax returns as a metric.
again, see kameamea
If we know, for example, that many more European Americans are being pulled over for speeding, we can draw one of two conclusions....
1. European Americans speed more.
2. European Americans are being unfairly targeted for speeding tickets.
If the first is true, no worries... justice is being served.
if the second is true, there is a miscarriage of justice happening, and something needs to be done. Without racial statistics, we have no assurance that people are not being targeted unfairly because of their skin color.
And without checking underneath my bed every single night, I have no assurance that a one eyed one horned flying purple people eater isn't there. The argument you present is one based on fear.
I've seen discrimination in action. see above example of the apartment complex. I assure you, race is still an issue in many things that it shouldn't be an issue in. Tracking racial data is the only way to fix this.
I don't buy it. Cops do their jobs well and 'tis the few bad apples that give cops some bad publicity. Unfairly targeted because of their skin color my ass. Contrary to the garbage put out by the left and their syncophant organizations, racism isn't prevalent in America today.
its much more prevalent than you think.
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the penalties are different based on motive.
So much for equal protection under the law.
Nightingale, all throughout your well written and thought out post we see your assumption that race is the predominant factor in this, that, and the other. It isn't. Individuals determine who they are and what they do. Some choose to identify themselves by their race and blame their failures on everyone else being racially prejudiced.
sometimes, they are being discriminated against. sometimes they're not. tracking racial data gives us the information to accurately determine whether or not the person has a case.
These are weak individuals who don't have the courage to face life and deal with it head on. Those are the ones who support racially discriminatory programs and scream 'racism' every time they lose or come up short in anything - it gives them an ez out from reality. They are cowards and I want no law on the books that will enable them to take this ez out in any manner.
sometimes people take advantage. sometimes there is legitimate discrimination. tracking racial data enables us to know the difference.
Steel 0
The numbers speak for themselves.... this is the TOTAL Cuban population here and there....
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You may wish that was the case but that is untrue. Those number very clearly represent who is living in Cuba right now. I guess you think when they talk about the square miles in Cuba, in that link you provided, they are also counting Miami Dade county and Union City, NJ. It is also untrue to suggest that people came from Cuba with proportionate racial or economic statuses. You need to learn some more about that if you wish to speak of it. Here go read some. http://www.asianweek.com/2000_04_27/opinion_voices_rodriguez.html There is an article for you.
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Following the ENTIRE thread of this and other threads.. boils down to the racial purity that you keep coming up with. I really do not think that in this day and age that Racial Purity is a worthy goal on this planet. there has been so much admixture that finding PURE populations are impossible except in small enclaves where aborignal people managed to escape. Too many people have migrated from one place to another and assumptions such as Racial Purity lead to more Sarajevos, Kosovos, Croatias, Slovenias, and some of the other recent Ethnic cleansings in Africa. ITs not such a stretch for attitudes such as that to blossom into Dachau's, and Aushwitz's. At some point human beings need to allow other human beings the right to live as just another human being.
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If all this is truly what you think then why have you not yet expressed support for propostion 54. I will tell you why because you are acting as a puppet for the left wing of the United States. They fill your mind with innaccuracies and through in meaningless statistics such as what became of a country when most of the hardworking people left and other populations were brought in. A more meaningful statistic to focus on would be the Cuban-Americans in the U.S. There you would find that Cuban-Americans are almost twice as likely to have a salary over $50K. /yearly than Americans in general, thet are more likely to go to college, to own a business, even to hold a political office on a national as well as local scale, they are for the most part living the American dream. Cubans-Americans generally don't practice misegination yet the last elected leader in Cuba was Batista (a mulatto). Celia Cruz (Black salsa singer) was loved by most Cubans. But just as well, most white Cubans would not even consider misegination. I know that this may be difficult for you to understand because of your background. {KKK linked Democracts (Dixiecrats) or bleeded-heart, wacko left wing liberals}. But there is a happy medium of people who are proud of who they are and still don't find the need to set churches on fire or on the other extreme pay slave reparations to somebody's who great-greatgrandfather was a slave.
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You may wish that was the case but that is untrue. Those number very clearly represent who is living in Cuba right now. I guess you think when they talk about the square miles in Cuba, in that link you provided, they are also counting Miami Dade county and Union City, NJ. It is also untrue to suggest that people came from Cuba with proportionate racial or economic statuses. You need to learn some more about that if you wish to speak of it. Here go read some. http://www.asianweek.com/2000_04_27/opinion_voices_rodriguez.html There is an article for you.
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Following the ENTIRE thread of this and other threads.. boils down to the racial purity that you keep coming up with. I really do not think that in this day and age that Racial Purity is a worthy goal on this planet. there has been so much admixture that finding PURE populations are impossible except in small enclaves where aborignal people managed to escape. Too many people have migrated from one place to another and assumptions such as Racial Purity lead to more Sarajevos, Kosovos, Croatias, Slovenias, and some of the other recent Ethnic cleansings in Africa. ITs not such a stretch for attitudes such as that to blossom into Dachau's, and Aushwitz's. At some point human beings need to allow other human beings the right to live as just another human being.
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If all this is truly what you think then why have you not yet expressed support for propostion 54. I will tell you why because you are acting as a puppet for the left wing of the United States. They fill your mind with innaccuracies and through in meaningless statistics such as what became of a country when most of the hardworking people left and other populations were brought in. A more meaningful statistic to focus on would be the Cuban-Americans in the U.S. There you would find that Cuban-Americans are almost twice as likely to have a salary over $50K. /yearly than Americans in general, thet are more likely to go to college, to own a business, even to hold a political office on a national as well as local scale, they are for the most part living the American dream. Cubans-Americans generally don't practice misegination yet the last elected leader in Cuba was Batista (a mulatto). Celia Cruz (Black salsa singer) was loved by most Cubans. But just as well, most white Cubans would not even consider misegination. I know that this may be difficult for you to understand because of your background. {KKK linked Democracts (Dixiecrats) or bleeded-heart, wacko left wing liberals}. But there is a happy medium of people who are proud of who they are and still don't find the need to set churches on fire or on the other extreme pay slave reparations to somebody's who great-greatgrandfather was a slave.
If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
Can't think of anything I need
No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound.
Nothing to eat, no books to read.
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QuoteI will tell you why because you are acting as a puppet for the left wing of the United States.
Of everyone in this thread, she isn't the one with the brain of a Muppet.
Quoteyour background. {KKK linked Democracts (Dixiecrats) or bleeded-heart, wacko left wing liberals}
That insult is fucking pathetic.
Deuce 1
Snausages.
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QuoteAgain you break people into groups based on race. There are poor performers from all races. Who cares what race they are? The students should be targeted for extra assistance by performance - not race.
I completely agree with you Anvil. The decision to give or not give assistance should be based on perfomance and not on race.
However, now we have to think of the next step, what type of assistance to give. Not every perfomance issue can be solved with the same typical solution. Race or gender related information can help design a workable solution for a problem.
Canada made this mistake quite some years ago in a different form by not allowing Metro Toronto police officers to indicate race on incident and arrest forms.
Never thought I'd see the day where the US is following Canada's lead
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QuoteSnausages.
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QuoteQuoteinsult deleted. Cut it out
Dang! Having been on the recieving end of many-a-Holder insult, I was truly looking forward to witnessing one.
BillV, you'd get along great with GH, he's got a sticker on his Mercedes coupe that says something like "Bush, the other-other white meat", or something.
It actually says - "BUSH - The only dope worth shooting"
Anyway, it wasn't really an insult, more of an observation about the nature of relationships between the early native americans, the buffalo, and the resultant genetic makeup of Texas conservatives. Very astute, even if I do say so myself.
Deuce 1
You should never astute, Gareth, it makes an "As" our of "tu" and "te".
I suspect that may just be funny in latin. But probably not, but I'm enjoying hijacking this bitter thread.
I suspect that may just be funny in latin. But probably not, but I'm enjoying hijacking this bitter thread.
gjhdiver 0
QuoteA liberal with a gas-guzzling upper-crusty Mercedes? Does he feel any guilt about having such a vehicle, Deuce? How many books could that car buy for inner city schools? How many soldiers have to die to fuel it? How many dolphins must get caught in the ship's screws to transport it here?
Who cares ? I'm doing my bit for the economy by recklessly consuming. Of course if I can cause some disconnect by painting a Mercedes Kompressor with anti Busgh slogans, it's all the better. You wouldn't believe how many nice people wave at me on the freeway. Poor things don't seem to be using the whole hand all the time though. Best money I every spent for amusement value I have to say.
gjhdiver 0
QuoteA liberal with a gas-guzzling upper-crusty Mercedes? Does he feel any guilt about having such a vehicle, Deuce? How many books could that car buy for inner city schools? How many soldiers have to die to fuel it? How many dolphins must get caught in the ship's screws to transport it here?
Who cares ? I'm doing my bit for the economy by recklessly consuming. Of course if I can cause some disconnect by painting a Mercedes Kompressor with anti Busgh slogans, it's all the better. You wouldn't believe how many nice people wave at me on the freeway. Poor things don't seem to be using the whole hand all the time though. Best money I every spent for amusement value I have to say.
gjhdiver 0
QuoteA liberal with a gas-guzzling upper-crusty Mercedes? Does he feel any guilt about having such a vehicle, Deuce? How many books could that car buy for inner city schools? How many soldiers have to die to fuel it? How many dolphins must get caught in the ship's screws to transport it here?
Who cares ? I'm doing my bit for the economy by recklessly consuming. Of course if I can cause some disconnect by painting a Mercedes Kompressor with anti Busgh slogans, it's all the better. You wouldn't believe how many nice people wave at me on the freeway. Poor things don't seem to be using the whole hand all the time though. Best money I every spent for amusement value I have to say.
So much for equal protection of the law. Interesting twist to justice.
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