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QuoteIt's Christmas. I won't be drawn into such on Christmas. If I forget to respond to this later, somebody PM me to remind me.
Dude, why bother responding at all? Do you see anything in this thread that rises above a basic level of unoriginal, lamentatious, and regurgitated spittle?
To me, this thread appears to be profoundly un-inspired, aka another troll that offers a bland dish of sophomoric whining, but no interesting alternatives or solutions to anything.
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benny 0
QuoteQuoteWell, no one from Iraq had attacked the US either
You seemed to avoid the whole SUPPORTING terror networks part of my reply.
Saddam did, N'Korea does not.
Sorry for "avoiding" it, I kinda got tired of typing. What evidence has been offered that Saddam was "supporting" terror networks? While it may be possible, in general, Saddam's policies ( i.e. not instituting an Islamic theocracy) tend to piss off the radical Islamic fundamentalists almost as much as we do. I think they were particularly pissed at him for inviting us over there by invading Kuwait in '91. Even still, if the terrorist thing is your argument, I have already pointed out that there would have been better places to invade than Iraq.... Indonesia, Syria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia... the list goes on and on, 15 of 19 911 hijackers were from where? Saudi Arabia. How many of 19 September 11th hijackers from Iraq? 0. Hmm... Seems to me if we're under the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive strikes, there might be some more worthy places to be pre-empting.
Never go to a DZ strip show.
The top 0.5% pretty much pay our salaries. Chances are they won't give themselve's pay cuts but most are smart enough to know that happy workers are good workers. The theory behind the tax cuts is to give them the opportunity to spread the wealth further. If big business fails then so does our economy so I for one am in support of said tax cuts. It may not seem fair but who said life was supposed to be fair?
Does our government look out for it's best interest? I should hope so. Otherwise I would think it wouldn't last very long.
I'm not in the military but many of my friends are or at least were at one time or another. The media can only tell us what they know and I'm willing to believe they don't have the whole picture. If the general public knew everything then so would our enemies and that would only serve to enganger the lives of my friends who are deployed. Sometimes we can't just sit around and wait for them to come over and break our stuff before we act.
The executive branch is one of 3 parts of our government yet so many act as if it's all powerful. I'm willing to believe that GWB is not alone in these decisions.
Unrest in the mid-east has been present for as long as I can remember. As long as we keep a military foothold there we have the opportunity to put a lot of it in check before it gets out of hand. If we pull out too soon we run the risk of it all happening again.
If you haven't already done so and happen to get the opportunity, go visit ground zero. It's very well cleaned up at this point but a few items of interest that were damaged in the attack are on display as reminders to what can happen if we become too complacent. Seeing this brought it all to a new level of reality to me. For all I know you may have lost loved ones in the attack. If that is the case then my heart goes out to you. Still, if this could happen then what next? There comes a time when we have to say, "Enough is enough. I'm not taking it any more" or better yet, "Ow!! Quit it!."
Saddam had already displayed his lack of value for human life. He was indeed getting too big foir his britches and I believe it was only a matter of time before he would have attacked us.
This is all just my opinion. There are no personal attacks intended in any of what I'm posting. It's just that with all that's being said I didn't feel comfortable keeping quiet. I'm glad we live in a country where we can voice our opinions in open forum without the threat of incarceration.
(ok - I'm done)
Does our government look out for it's best interest? I should hope so. Otherwise I would think it wouldn't last very long.
I'm not in the military but many of my friends are or at least were at one time or another. The media can only tell us what they know and I'm willing to believe they don't have the whole picture. If the general public knew everything then so would our enemies and that would only serve to enganger the lives of my friends who are deployed. Sometimes we can't just sit around and wait for them to come over and break our stuff before we act.
The executive branch is one of 3 parts of our government yet so many act as if it's all powerful. I'm willing to believe that GWB is not alone in these decisions.
Unrest in the mid-east has been present for as long as I can remember. As long as we keep a military foothold there we have the opportunity to put a lot of it in check before it gets out of hand. If we pull out too soon we run the risk of it all happening again.
If you haven't already done so and happen to get the opportunity, go visit ground zero. It's very well cleaned up at this point but a few items of interest that were damaged in the attack are on display as reminders to what can happen if we become too complacent. Seeing this brought it all to a new level of reality to me. For all I know you may have lost loved ones in the attack. If that is the case then my heart goes out to you. Still, if this could happen then what next? There comes a time when we have to say, "Enough is enough. I'm not taking it any more" or better yet, "Ow!! Quit it!."
Saddam had already displayed his lack of value for human life. He was indeed getting too big foir his britches and I believe it was only a matter of time before he would have attacked us.
This is all just my opinion. There are no personal attacks intended in any of what I'm posting. It's just that with all that's being said I didn't feel comfortable keeping quiet. I'm glad we live in a country where we can voice our opinions in open forum without the threat of incarceration.
(ok - I'm done)
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The top 0.5% pretty much pay our salaries.
Sorry, but I gotta call BS on this one.
I used to work for one of the largest companies with one of the most highly paid CEOs on the planet.
While this particular person may have -controlled- a lot of money, he didn't pay me a dime. The people that pay your salary are the people buying the products. I believe this is true in most business from the largest to the smallest.
If you doubt me, just see what happens when people stop buying for a few weeks.
Mr Big Shot CEO still usually has a job, but folks like me . . . well, they stop getting paid.
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TheAnvil 0
From the responses I've seen so far I am inclined to agree with you my friend. Anger from gregory - quite warranted I believe - and moronic blather from elsewhere.
For the record, I don't think Bush is a great president but don't feel he's doing a bad job either. I think I'd rate him better than average right now. None of the buffoons running against him have the potential to be even average.
I'm still in the Christmas spirit and plan on staying that way for a while. Think I'll start my own thread after the holiday spirit has left me or come back to this one if it's still going.
Gregory - your anger is warranted.
That's it. I'm going to eat a nice chocolate covered pretzel and have a beer with my Dad.
For the record, I don't think Bush is a great president but don't feel he's doing a bad job either. I think I'd rate him better than average right now. None of the buffoons running against him have the potential to be even average.
I'm still in the Christmas spirit and plan on staying that way for a while. Think I'll start my own thread after the holiday spirit has left me or come back to this one if it's still going.
Gregory - your anger is warranted.
That's it. I'm going to eat a nice chocolate covered pretzel and have a beer with my Dad.
Vinny the Anvil
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The top 0.5% pretty much pay our salaries.
Sorry, but I gotta call BS on this one.
I used to work for one of the largest companies with one of the most highly paid CEOs on the planet.
While this particular person may have -controlled- a lot of money, he didn't pay me a dime. The people that pay your salary are the people buying the products. I believe this is true in most business from the largest to the smallest.
Yes but those buying the products don't distribute the salaries (as you pointed out). That's what I was was trinying to say (apparently not very well).
benny 0
Well, fair or unfair, the tax cut was a stupid move. What did they tell us, "give us 5 billion dollars and we'll give you 1 million new jobs." Where are those new jobs. If you've been keeping up with other posts around here (see Cold Mountain boycott), you'll find that many are going to India. But the stock market's BOOMING they tell us. Great, so all those rich folk that could "ride out" the recession are now even richer and they can hire even more Indian's to tell them why there cell phone, laptop, PDA or whatever they bought from Japan isn't working.
But, as far as the war is concerned... I think the ease with which our boys swept through Iraq showed us just how much of a threat Saddam really was. I doubt we'd find it quite so easy in Syria or Saudi Arabia for that matter. Listen, Saddam is/was definitely a bad guy. Bad enough to risk American soldiers lives? That I don't think. Are there instances in which it is definitely worth the risk? Yes, and as I said before, I'd wholeheartedly support an invasion of Saudi Arabia or maybe just a toppling of there tyrranous royal party. But wait, they're our friends.... right
Never go to a DZ strip show.
But, as far as the war is concerned... I think the ease with which our boys swept through Iraq showed us just how much of a threat Saddam really was. I doubt we'd find it quite so easy in Syria or Saudi Arabia for that matter. Listen, Saddam is/was definitely a bad guy. Bad enough to risk American soldiers lives? That I don't think. Are there instances in which it is definitely worth the risk? Yes, and as I said before, I'd wholeheartedly support an invasion of Saudi Arabia or maybe just a toppling of there tyrranous royal party. But wait, they're our friends.... right
Never go to a DZ strip show.
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None of the buffoons running against him have the potential to be even average.
Of all of the people we might be able to vote for next November, who would you say is the most well educated?
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benny 0
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None of the buffoons running against him have the potential to be even average.
Of all of the people we might be able to vote for next November, who would you say is the most well educated?
Dean or Edwards... Definitely not my father's name got me a degree Bush.
Never go to a DZ strip show.
You seemed to avoid the whole SUPPORTING terror networks part of my reply.
Saddam did, N'Korea does not.
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