JohnRich 4 #326 January 15, 2004 QuoteWe interrupt this program to bring you... http://www.lifelibertyetc.com/t-shirts.aspx We apologize for this interruption and return you to your regularly scheduled bickering, already in progress. Thank you for that commercial interruption. I needed to run into the kitchen and refresh my peach ice tea anyway. And those are some cool T-shirts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #327 January 15, 2004 QuotePMing, as to avoid feeding the trolls. Who are "the trolls"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #328 January 15, 2004 Interestingly, action shooter Jerry Miculek recently fired five shots in .57 of a second... ...with a revolver. Miculek then fired a 10-gun record attempt. In the 10-gun attempt, he fired 10 different, stock revolvers which were laid on a table in front of him. His total time for 60 rounds from 10 guns was 17.12 seconds, beating the old record (set by Ed McGivern in 1932) by nearly three seconds. Maybe we should ban him. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #329 January 16, 2004 Quotetrue story. he won a darwin award for it. When are the darwins coming out for 2003? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #330 January 16, 2004 www.darwinawards.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #331 January 16, 2004 Quote You haven't really provided much to distinguish cars from guns... You left out half of what I posted, and most of the restrictions on guns you mention are current, and you'd like to get rid of them. If guns were regulated just like cars I doubt you'd really like it much.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,153 #332 January 16, 2004 QuoteThe naive belief that criminals obey the law Do you actually read what you are writing?????? Criminals by definition break certain portions of the law, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals now would they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,153 #333 January 16, 2004 QuoteI'm glad to hear that. OK, let's treat guns just like cars. We'll register our guns just like cars and license gun owners, just like driver's licenses. But in return, you'll have to grant gun owners the following favors, just like cars: No problem, just remember, you will have to carry insurance on the misuse of the firearm to carry it in public, just like a vehicle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,153 #334 January 16, 2004 QuoteIt also shows a basic distrust in the judgement of your fellow citizens... Actually it is quite opposite. I trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. You on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. PS. one of the links in your proof does not exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #335 January 16, 2004 QuoteI trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. You on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. I don't think that's a fair statement. I think everyone recognizes that the majority of our (and your) citizens are fine, upstanding, people. It's the minority we need to worry about. Do you disagree? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkyDekker 1,153 #336 January 16, 2004 Quote don't think that's a fair statement. I think everyone recognizes that the majority of our (and your) citizens are fine, upstanding, people. It's the minority we need to worry about. Do you disagree? according to John I could not possibly agree since I do not trust the judgement of my fellow citizens. But I am sure that was a fair statement to make, wasn't it Jimbo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #337 January 16, 2004 QuoteDo you actually read what you are writing?????? How would it be possible to write something, without reading it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,473 #338 January 16, 2004 >How would it be possible to write something, without reading it? I think it's possible; I have known plenty of people who can talk without listening to what they're saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #339 January 16, 2004 QuoteCriminals by definition break certain portions of the law, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals now would they? Then how can you possibly believe that passing laws forbidding criminals from carrying guns, could actually be effective at preventing them from doing so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #340 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt also shows a basic distrust in the judgement of your fellow citizens... Actually it is quite opposite. I trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. Then why would you be afraid of them carrying a gun for self-defense against criminals, since you admit they aren't a threat to you? As long as you're not a criminal, you don't have anything to worry about. QuoteYou on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. No, I trust the law-abiding citizens to act responsibly, even if they carry a gun for self-defense. It is only the criminals I don't trust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #341 January 16, 2004 We need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,679 #342 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt also shows a basic distrust in the judgement of your fellow citizens... Actually it is quite opposite. I trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. Then why would you be afraid of them carrying a gun for self-defense against criminals, since you admit they aren't a threat to you? As long as you're not a criminal, you don't have anything to worry about. QuoteYou on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. No, I trust the law-abiding citizens to act responsibly, even if they carry a gun for self-defense. It is only the criminals I don't trust. All criminals were once law abiding citizens. How will you know which law abiding citizens are going to go bad? How do you know which law abiding citizens will fail to properly secure their firearms so they can be easily stolen and enter the criminal world? How do you know which law abiding citizens will snap in a moment of stress and shoot the guy who cut them off in traffic? How do you know which law abiding citizens have children ingenious enough to find and play with their father's guns?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #343 January 16, 2004 Look, guns don't kill people, bullets don't kill people (lead poisoning and interior damage don't kill people) 'people' kill people. Let's legislate that you can't have 'people' without proper locks and permits and a 9 month waiting period. Fully under government control - we'll call it 'school'. Automatic versions of 'people' are not allowed as they don't follow the standard definitions of the DFL and can't be placed in any bucket to pander to. 'People' can only be loaded in special ranges, let's call them 'bars'. Definitely uneducated or criminals can't have these 'people' as it takes too much training and they can't be trusted with 'people' unless strictly controlled by the government. and so on and so forth ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DJL 232 #344 January 16, 2004 Quote"We need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet " Then if anyone got shot, you'd say, "Damn...he musta did something wrong. They spent fitty thousand dollars worth of bullets on him." Fuck that, I like guns. If you got a gun, you don't need to work out..."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #345 January 16, 2004 QuoteThen if anyone got shot, you'd say, "Damn...he musta did something wrong. They spent fitty thousand dollars worth of bullets on him." Bwahahahahahaha...lol And we'd know who did it because they would go back and collect their bullets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fasterfaller 0 #346 January 16, 2004 QuotePMing, as to avoid feeding the trolls. Funny how you run to the P.M. button when jimbo brings up a very valid point . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnischalke 0 #347 January 17, 2004 QuoteWe need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet That would suck, but only because I would just have to use my Dillon XL 650 progressive reloader a little more often. BTW, I think you might have meant "cartridge," because a "bullet" is the projectile component of the cartridge. Either way, I can start casting when I run out of the 6-7000 bullets I have sitting around to use in the above reloader. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jfields 0 #348 January 17, 2004 QuoteQuotePMing, as to avoid feeding the trolls. Funny how you run to the P.M. button when jimbo brings up a very valid point . He did have a valid point. I addressed it with him, hoping to carry on a pleasant conversation by PM. No slight at all to Jimbo. But I figured that he and I could carry on a more civil conversation without interference by some of the aforementioned trolls. Clear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #349 January 19, 2004 QuoteWe need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet That will just shut down all sport shooting, and the criminals will just steal or manufacture the few that they need. Gun control laws don't work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #350 January 19, 2004 Have you seen the way most criminals shoot? They'd need more than 'a few'. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Next Page 14 of 15 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. 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SkyDekker 1,153 #334 January 16, 2004 QuoteIt also shows a basic distrust in the judgement of your fellow citizens... Actually it is quite opposite. I trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. You on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. PS. one of the links in your proof does not exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #335 January 16, 2004 QuoteI trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. You on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. I don't think that's a fair statement. I think everyone recognizes that the majority of our (and your) citizens are fine, upstanding, people. It's the minority we need to worry about. Do you disagree? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,153 #336 January 16, 2004 Quote don't think that's a fair statement. I think everyone recognizes that the majority of our (and your) citizens are fine, upstanding, people. It's the minority we need to worry about. Do you disagree? according to John I could not possibly agree since I do not trust the judgement of my fellow citizens. But I am sure that was a fair statement to make, wasn't it Jimbo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #337 January 16, 2004 QuoteDo you actually read what you are writing?????? How would it be possible to write something, without reading it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,473 #338 January 16, 2004 >How would it be possible to write something, without reading it? I think it's possible; I have known plenty of people who can talk without listening to what they're saying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #339 January 16, 2004 QuoteCriminals by definition break certain portions of the law, otherwise they wouldn't be criminals now would they? Then how can you possibly believe that passing laws forbidding criminals from carrying guns, could actually be effective at preventing them from doing so? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #340 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteIt also shows a basic distrust in the judgement of your fellow citizens... Actually it is quite opposite. I trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. Then why would you be afraid of them carrying a gun for self-defense against criminals, since you admit they aren't a threat to you? As long as you're not a criminal, you don't have anything to worry about. QuoteYou on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. No, I trust the law-abiding citizens to act responsibly, even if they carry a gun for self-defense. It is only the criminals I don't trust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #341 January 16, 2004 We need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,679 #342 January 16, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt also shows a basic distrust in the judgement of your fellow citizens... Actually it is quite opposite. I trust that the majority of my fellow citizens do not want to harm and kill me. Hence, I don't carry a gun to protect myself. Then why would you be afraid of them carrying a gun for self-defense against criminals, since you admit they aren't a threat to you? As long as you're not a criminal, you don't have anything to worry about. QuoteYou on the other hand don't trust the judgement of your fellow citizens and feel that you need a gun to protect yourself. No, I trust the law-abiding citizens to act responsibly, even if they carry a gun for self-defense. It is only the criminals I don't trust. All criminals were once law abiding citizens. How will you know which law abiding citizens are going to go bad? How do you know which law abiding citizens will fail to properly secure their firearms so they can be easily stolen and enter the criminal world? How do you know which law abiding citizens will snap in a moment of stress and shoot the guy who cut them off in traffic? How do you know which law abiding citizens have children ingenious enough to find and play with their father's guns?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #343 January 16, 2004 Look, guns don't kill people, bullets don't kill people (lead poisoning and interior damage don't kill people) 'people' kill people. Let's legislate that you can't have 'people' without proper locks and permits and a 9 month waiting period. Fully under government control - we'll call it 'school'. Automatic versions of 'people' are not allowed as they don't follow the standard definitions of the DFL and can't be placed in any bucket to pander to. 'People' can only be loaded in special ranges, let's call them 'bars'. Definitely uneducated or criminals can't have these 'people' as it takes too much training and they can't be trusted with 'people' unless strictly controlled by the government. and so on and so forth ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 232 #344 January 16, 2004 Quote"We need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet " Then if anyone got shot, you'd say, "Damn...he musta did something wrong. They spent fitty thousand dollars worth of bullets on him." Fuck that, I like guns. If you got a gun, you don't need to work out..."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #345 January 16, 2004 QuoteThen if anyone got shot, you'd say, "Damn...he musta did something wrong. They spent fitty thousand dollars worth of bullets on him." Bwahahahahahaha...lol And we'd know who did it because they would go back and collect their bullets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fasterfaller 0 #346 January 16, 2004 QuotePMing, as to avoid feeding the trolls. Funny how you run to the P.M. button when jimbo brings up a very valid point . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnischalke 0 #347 January 17, 2004 QuoteWe need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet That would suck, but only because I would just have to use my Dillon XL 650 progressive reloader a little more often. BTW, I think you might have meant "cartridge," because a "bullet" is the projectile component of the cartridge. Either way, I can start casting when I run out of the 6-7000 bullets I have sitting around to use in the above reloader. mike Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills--You know, like nunchuk skills, bow-hunting skills, computer-hacking skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #348 January 17, 2004 QuoteQuotePMing, as to avoid feeding the trolls. Funny how you run to the P.M. button when jimbo brings up a very valid point . He did have a valid point. I addressed it with him, hoping to carry on a pleasant conversation by PM. No slight at all to Jimbo. But I figured that he and I could carry on a more civil conversation without interference by some of the aforementioned trolls. Clear? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #349 January 19, 2004 QuoteWe need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet That will just shut down all sport shooting, and the criminals will just steal or manufacture the few that they need. Gun control laws don't work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Jimbo 0 #350 January 19, 2004 Have you seen the way most criminals shoot? They'd need more than 'a few'. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Next Page 14 of 15 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
JohnRich 4 #349 January 19, 2004 QuoteWe need bullet control.. Make it cost $5k per bullet That will just shut down all sport shooting, and the criminals will just steal or manufacture the few that they need. Gun control laws don't work! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #350 January 19, 2004 Have you seen the way most criminals shoot? They'd need more than 'a few'. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
