Army Personnel and the Black Berret

[ACMESkydiver 0]

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A former Ranger actually rucked from Benning to Washington DC in protest of the black beret. Nobody in the pentagon paid attention.

Unfortunately, that sounds about right...

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[AirCav 0]

You've got a good point. Only a few units in SE Asia wore the Cav Hat, now it seems like every Cav unit has them.

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[dgskydive 0]

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True it is who you are, not what you wear that is important

That is very very true. It just happens that these Berrets where ment to show everyone just exactly who you are. It used to be when you had a Berret (with the right wings and tabs) there was no question about what type of person you are. Not only a hard working, dedicated and a professional soldier, but well above the everyday standard set for the everyday soldier! That is what Special Op's units are about. Anyone can join the service and make it through Basic and AIT if they just try a little bit, but to go to Airborne School, Ranger School or the Q-course. It takes someone much more then the everyday soldier.

Dom

[koz2000 1]

yep, I guess we'll just have to wear baseball caps to set us apart

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[jumper03 0]

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I believe he also came with the cheesy "Army of One" bullshit....

Speaking of "Army of One"...
I can't remember where this was from - I think from Leatherneck a few years ago but it was funny as shit....

I agree with the rest though...get rid of the beret - if you didn't earn it, don't wear it.

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[Lee03 0]

Having served in the Marine Corps, I really "don't have a dog in this fight" so to speak, therefore, I voted no opinion. Probably the best way I could have handled it.

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[dgskydive 0]

Hey, I used to run into strange fellows like you all the time.

It was always funny to here all the new privates ask, "SGT........ Why aren't those guys in uniform and why don't they shave?

I would always aks who they where talking about. After they would point out the person or 2. I would once again ask "Who are you talking about?" Then just walk away.

Dom

[dgskydive 0]

That's a good Marine!

Ever wonder why the NAvy takes 50 Marines with them everytime they go on float?

Dom

[labrys 0]

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Ever wonder why the NAvy takes 50 Marines with them everytime they go on float?

Ballast?

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[dgskydive 0]

Because 50 sheep would be to obvious!



God I love that joke!

Dom

[ACMESkydiver 0]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!! Holy shnikeys...I've never heard that one before...but I like Labrys' response too.

No offense, Lee...just havin' some fun!

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[labrys 0]

That one rated a 9/1 on my "beer on the monitor" scale. 9 parts beer on the monitor, 1 part for me.

Edited to add. Same here, Lee. No real disrespect intended. Just squid talk :-)

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[freeflir29 0]

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I think you mean Maroon unless you are Air Force

Lou...No "Red" Berets in the Air Force either. Maroon for PJ's, "Scarlet"(Yeah I know....looks red to me too) for CCT, and Black for TACP. Then you also have blue for cops and Grey for "Combat" Weather.


PS. The black beret for all the Army is shitty. I got out of the Air Force before they made that crazy change. Not sure if TACP wears their's anymore. Most people just wore PC's anyway. It was helpful in combatting the FNG Army guys impulse to salute enlisted guys with large shiny crests on their Beret. "At ease.....I'll be in the Air Force all day."

[dgskydive 0]

lol! I guess I should have made it clear as well it is just a joke.

BAHHH BAHHH!

Dom

[sabr190 0]

Amazing, this debate will go on forever. Too late to change the mistake. Hopefully the Rangers will forgive the ignorance of those who made the change.

"The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few, or the one" - rehmwa

[hooligan 0]

it agrevates me to much to type..



adam
3d ranger batt.

[dgskydive 0]

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FNG Army guys impulse to salute enlisted guys with large shiny crests on their Beret. "At ease.....I'll be in the Air Force all day."

My favorite afternoons during AIT were spent in front of the PX at Ft. Gordon seeing how many FNG LT's we could get to salute with their left hands! You would be surprised.

Dom

[ACMESkydiver 0]

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FNG Army guys impulse to salute enlisted guys with large shiny crests on their Beret. "At ease.....I'll be in the Air Force all day."

My favorite afternoons during AIT were spent in front of the PX at Ft. Gordon seeing how many FNG LT's we could get to salute with their left hands! You would be surprised.

Left hand?? Sorry, I don't get it... ??

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[AggieDave 6]

I haven't been in the military, but while I was in the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets, I did that to a few butterbars walking around in uniform (they were there for the ROTC/NROTC departments and thought their shit didn't stink).

A nice crisp left hand salute, and would laugh my ass off when they did it back. Although a Marine Corps Gunny chewed my ass for it once. After the butter bar (navy guy) left, he told me he thought it was funny...

*shrug*

--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline."

[ACMESkydiver 0]

Oh, Ok AggieDave...so you saluted with your left hand and they did it back? Doesn't make sense to me...saluting was ingrained in my mind...like an automatic response...even if someone tried that, I'd still automatically raise my right hand...would be like trying to reach with your left hand to pull...

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[dgskydive 0]

YOu salute with your right hand. The Lt's where brand new in the Army. They always catch shit for being new and nobody respects them until they earn it. Especially if you are in a high speed unit where the lower ranking enlisted soldiers have more medals and awards then most lifers in a regular unit.


After I left Ft. Bragg and was stationed in Germany. My squad leader hated me because I already had three full rows of medals an airborne badge and my choice of two combat patches I could wear. He didn't like me showing him up during inspections and such.

Dom

[Nightingale 0]

personally, I don't like that they took a special symbol and gave it to everyone. Its like taking a black belt and giving it to every single martial artist. Its there for the taking, but it ought to be EARNED.

That said, it doesn't matter who's wearing what. Everyone knows who's got the skill and the training and the balls to do what needs to be done, and that's whats important. It isn't in the clothes, its in the person.

[ACMESkydiver 0]

...my hubby wears his reserve uniform bare...no combat scroll, no Ranger scroll, no wings...and I think maybe 4 medals. He's never been a glory kind of guy, he just lays low...if people ask him, he'll say, but otherwise you'd never know. He's probably one of the most laid back guys you'd ever meet, but man did his soldiers love him...I can't say how many guys in Ranger Batt told me that he was an amazing guy (like I didn't know that! ). -Not that anything is wrong with showing what you earned...I mean crimany, I wore EVERYTHING on my uniforms, because I felt I earned them! (Well, what little I did earn anyhow...)

I think it has something to do with going from Ranger Batt to a reserve unit...it just isn't the same to him. And the beret thing had a lot to do with that unfortunately.

~Jaye
Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action.

[sdgregory 0]

You know, green berret, black berret, maroon berret or Raspberry berret. I think the Army issues berret's to keep attention off of the fact that they can't blouse their trouser legs over their boots properly.


Seriously though, issuing Black Berret's to everyone is a slap in the face to those of you who earned it. I know if they just started passin out Scuba Bubbels and Gold Wings to every boot graduate in the Corps I would be enfuriated. Why not just issue CMH,s too.

[sdgregory 0]

As a Marine I hold myself with great dignity and pride and feel no need to retaliate for your infantile jokes. It is enough for me to know that you are just jealous that you could not hack the Corps and that as a younger brother looks up to his older, and sometimes cracks jokes to boost his self esteem so must you.

Just remember, the Germans were terrified of Marines. They called us "Hounds From Hell." And lets not forget Admiral Nimitz saying about Marines on Iwo Jima, "Uncommon Valour was a Common Virtue."

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