Mac 1 #1 August 24, 2010 Ive returned back to skydiving after a good several years out, and didnt keep up with gear progression. I have heard of a new D-Bag that allows you to free stow the lines, and I think involves some sort of closure with magnets? Can someone point me in the direction which manufacturer produces this... In addition, any other manufacturer that produces a D-Bag allowing freestowed lines so I can compare products. Edit to add: This is for general use with my Spectre. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #2 August 24, 2010 Lazy bag magnetic d-bags other source for magnetic d-bags ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac 1 #3 August 24, 2010 Nice one, appreciated. -M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
breadhead 0 #4 August 24, 2010 You're probably referring to the mPOD: http://pgasus.be/start.php?lang=en Get one. You'll love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #5 August 24, 2010 Semi-Stowless D Bag from Vector 3 aka United Parachute Technologies Scott Roberts design price is $120 USD I currently use one and love it. Makes life easier, quicker, and less potential for line twist.For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #6 August 24, 2010 See, I find this odd... There is all this talk out there about how much tension each stow is suppossed to have, and too little tension is bad, too much is bad... Yet we freestow reserves, minus the two locking stows. Why all the talk about the line stows not being up to the correct pressure, if it doesnt matter? "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 1 #7 August 24, 2010 Quote See, I find this odd... There is all this talk out there about how much tension each stow is suppossed to have, and too little tension is bad, too much is bad... Yet we freestow reserves, minus the two locking stows. Why all the talk about the line stows not being up to the correct pressure, if it doesnt matter? Because when we *do* stow the bands, it is important for them to be even in size, tension and stow tension. It's not the stowing in and of itself that is important, but the management of the stows. Hope this helps. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master_Yoda 0 #8 August 25, 2010 Very cool! Learn something new every day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #9 August 25, 2010 As has been stated, there are several versions of this idea out there. However, I suggest you use a bag that uses at least two locking stows IE: Rubber bands. After having seen This video around the 4:20-4:28 mark and the parachute coming out of the D bag before full line stretch I am convinced not all the bags of this design out there are equal."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #10 August 25, 2010 QuoteAs has been stated, there are several versions of this idea out there. However, I suggest you use a bag that uses at least two locking stows IE: Rubber bands. After having seen This video around the 4:20-4:28 mark and the parachute coming out of the D bag before full line stretch I am convinced not all the bags of this design out there are equal. Thats sketchy. It looks like a Vector3, does he have the UPT bag, or does he have something else?"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #11 August 25, 2010 I'm assuming its not the UPT semi-stowless bag but perhaps a complete stowless bag as he was stating that he recommends at least two stows such as UPT's.For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #12 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteAs has been stated, there are several versions of this idea out there. However, I suggest you use a bag that uses at least two locking stows IE: Rubber bands. After having seen This video around the 4:20-4:28 mark and the parachute coming out of the D bag before full line stretch I am convinced not all the bags of this design out there are equal. Thats sketchy. It looks like a Vector3, does he have the UPT bag, or does he have something else? It is my understanding that it is the bag that uses magnets (Mpod) in the video, not the UPT bag. I have been using the UPT bag for some time now as have others and it works nicely without any issues."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #13 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteQuoteAs has been stated, there are several versions of this idea out there. However, I suggest you use a bag that uses at least two locking stows IE: Rubber bands. After having seen This video around the 4:20-4:28 mark and the parachute coming out of the D bag before full line stretch I am convinced not all the bags of this design out there are equal. Thats sketchy. It looks like a Vector3, does he have the UPT bag, or does he have something else? It is my understanding that it is the bag that uses magnets (Mpod) in the video, not the UPT bag. I have been using the UPT bag for some time now as have others and it works nicely without any issues. Thanks! I might be getting one of those (the UPT ones) I shoulda ordered it when I bought the rig... guess Ill have a spare d-bag laying around."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #14 August 25, 2010 QuoteI might be getting one of those (the UPT ones) I shoulda ordered it when I bought the rig... guess Ill have a spare d-bag laying around. You can't swap it for the stock bag on a new rig anyway, or at least you couldn't when I ordered 16 weeks ago. I had to pay full price (I think $120) for the stowless bag and received both bags with the container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #15 August 25, 2010 QuoteQuoteI might be getting one of those (the UPT ones) I shoulda ordered it when I bought the rig... guess Ill have a spare d-bag laying around. You can't swap it for the stock bag on a new rig anyway, or at least you couldn't when I ordered 16 weeks ago. I had to pay full price (I think $120) for the stowless bag and received both bags with the container. Weird..."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac 1 #16 August 25, 2010 Just an FYI, contacted Basik Air Concepts, and their bag with magnetic closure is only for their Seven containers. They stated they dont make it for other brands of rig because its too complex for all the different types and sizes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mac 1 #17 August 25, 2010 QuoteYou're probably referring to the mPOD: http://pgasus.be/start.php?lang=en Get one. You'll love it. Thats the one! Nice one fella... Cheers I assume by your post that you jump one, have you any issues or niggles with using it? I take it the system increases the size of the bag, but by what sort of amount? It looks like from the picture that there is no initial stow at all, and the dual closure is in place of this? The lines deploy from the figure 8s first and then (and only then) at line stretch the secondary closure flap opens allowing airflow to the canopy. I would be interested to hear from anyone else that has used the mPOD, and your thoughts on pros and cons. Thanks in Advance Mac Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #18 August 25, 2010 QuoteSemi-Stowless D Bag from Vector 3 aka United Parachute Technologies Scott Roberts design price is $120 USD I currently use one and love it. Makes life easier, quicker, and less potential for line twist. Thats a pretty neat idea. Can you use the UPT d-bag in other containers? If so I may look into picking one up.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mchamp 1 #19 August 25, 2010 Quote Quote Semi-Stowless D Bag from Vector 3 aka United Parachute Technologies Scott Roberts design price is $120 USD I currently use one and love it. Makes life easier, quicker, and less potential for line twist. Thats a pretty neat idea. Can you use the UPT d-bag in other containers? If so I may look into picking one up. I believe that the UPT semi-stowless bag is universal providing that you order the correct size d-bag for your container. For info regarding lift ticket prices all around the world check out http://www.jumpticketprices.com/dropzones.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #20 August 25, 2010 Thanks. Where do you get them? I cant seem to find them with any of the popular online gear stores.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OG-Tahiti 0 #21 August 25, 2010 I think you will need to contact UPT directly for those as it is usually an option on their newer V3. They will also help you get the right size I'm sure."Common sense is not so common" - Voltaire Dudeist Skydiver #9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #22 August 26, 2010 Quote I would be interested to hear from anyone else that has used mPOD, and your thoughts on pros and cons. I have one and I am very happy with it, like everybody I know who uses one. Good openings, easy packing ... I have not seen the video yet mentioned somewhere in this thread, but it is very hard to believe that a mpod lead to an out of sequence opening of the bag if it was closed correctly. Know your gear and use it correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellis 0 #23 August 26, 2010 How much does those mPods cost? And can you overtuff one of those bags? I have a 170 in a 150 rig at the moment, is that possible? Since the closingpart is magnetic that might be a problem? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 3 #24 August 26, 2010 from my limited 8-10 jumps on an mPod I would be very cautious about jumping a canopy that was not well sized for the container and the bag. while the magnets are effective to a degree there is only so much shit you can stuff into a 5lb bag...I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jools 0 #25 August 26, 2010 Got one, love it. Mate has one and he loves it."If you don't like it then fuck off" BASE 621 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites