Pammi 0 #1 June 25, 2004 I'm trying to settle an argument about how this sentence should be ended: "...to confirm a previous telephone conversation between you and me." Which is right..."you and me" or "you and I" and why? Pammi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #2 June 25, 2004 QuoteI'm trying to settle an argument about how this sentence should be ended: "...to confrim a previous telephone conversation between you and me." Which is right..."you and me" or "you and I" and why? Pammi DAMNIT!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #3 June 25, 2004 HA! Knew it. My boss is such a dick and I just got this big speach about my lack of proper grammar on a letter I typed. Jackass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeJD 0 #4 June 25, 2004 I reckon it's 'you and me'. Think about reversing those two - you wouldn't say 'between I and you', but the context is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #5 June 25, 2004 Quoteand I just got this big speach about my lack of proper grammar Don't you mean SPEECH __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casie 0 #6 June 25, 2004 you and i~Porn Kitty WARNING: Goldschlager causes extreme emotional outbursts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pammi 0 #7 June 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteand I just got this big speach about my lack of proper grammar Don't you mean SPEECH ROFL! F-you Ah well, right or wrong my boss is still a jackass! Besides, I'm a girl so he's automatically wrong! That's the rules! Pammi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #8 June 25, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteand I just got this big speach about my lack of proper grammar Don't you mean SPEECH ROFL! F-you Ah well, right or wrong my boss is still a jackass! Besides, I'm a girl so he's automatically wrong! That's the rules! Pammi Wow - You work for Vinnie?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #9 June 25, 2004 You and I. That's the correct grammar. At least that's what I was taught in school. MS Office however suggest you and ME so perhaps it's an americanized way. edit: Cause I'm an idiot and spelt grammar incorrectly Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #10 June 25, 2004 I think you have a bigger problem with "Confrim" You or I? Me. It's all about me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Biene 0 #11 June 25, 2004 ....between you and me (not you and I.) The "you and me" at the end of a sentence is an object. The grammatical subject is" the telephone conversation." "You and I" is used when it's a subject, "You and me" when it's an object. That's what I learned in Highschool English. I am a native German... Greetings Sabine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #12 June 25, 2004 Quote....between you and me (not you and I.) The "you and me" at the end of a sentence is an object. The grammatical subject is" the telephone conversation." "You and I" is used when it's a subject, "You and me" when it's an object. That's what I learned in Highschool English. I am a native German... Greetings Sabine ding ding ding. This is the right answer. My boss drilled it into my head because I would always use "I" inappropriately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #13 June 25, 2004 "Between you and me" is correct. the way to figure it out is to remove the extra people, and find out if you'd use "me" or "I" For example: Jaina and I went to the store. which sounds right: Me went to the store or I went to the store. another example: Mom gave the present to Billy and I. Which sounds right: Mom gave the present to I or Mom gave the present to me? In the first example, I is correct, and the second, Me is correct. People like to use "I" because they think it sounds right, but a lot of times they're wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #14 June 25, 2004 Actually, seeing as how "Between you and I/me" is a prepositional phrase, it's "you and I". You use "me" rather that "I" in the predicate of a sentence, unless it is a prepositional phrase. Actually, although I very explicitly remember that rule from English class, now it doesn't make sense to me. Either way, I don't think it's a big deal. Last edit, I swear: I keep going back and forth, but I just don't know. Damn, that ticks me off. Kelly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #15 June 25, 2004 I'm sure that you can use either (no right answer ..... probably) (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #16 June 25, 2004 QuoteThe "you and me" at the end of a sentence is an object. The grammatical subject is" the telephone conversation." "You and I" is used when it's a subject, "You and me" when it's an object. I believe that is correct also. I think it just sounds wrong because so many people speak incorrect English these days!She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #17 June 25, 2004 Don't you mean that they speak english incorrectly? (you need to use the adverb, not the adjective, and english isn't capitalized when talking about the language) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scottbre 0 #18 June 25, 2004 I always thought the rule was determined by taking all others out of the sentence. While your particular sentence makes that seem trickier, it can still be done: ". . . between me and myself." vs. ". . . between I and myself." So I'd have to say your boss was right on this one. Should be "me." "Your mother's full of stupidjuice!" My Art Project Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #19 June 25, 2004 Yes, it's "between you and me" But I would re-word it altogether. How formal is it? If I was writing to a solicitor to confirm an arugment I'd just had with them I would put: "We write further to our telephone conversation of the 25th June, (MPB/BFI)..." (Where the letters are the initials of the participants in the conversation. It's "we write" because I am writing as merely an agent of the firm and not as an individual). If it's slightly less formal try something like "further to our telephone conversation of the 25th June, I confirm that..." That's a nice construction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymama 35 #20 June 25, 2004 QuoteDon't you mean that they speak english incorrectly? Probably, but I never said I don't make mistakes also. I'm sure my posts are full of them. I liked you better when you were horny. She is Da Man, and you better not mess with Da Man, because she will lay some keepdown on you faster than, well, really fast. ~Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unformed 0 #21 June 25, 2004 You're all wrong. The correct, most concise answer is "us".This ad space for sale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhillyKev 0 #22 June 25, 2004 QuoteI liked you better when you were horny. Hold on, let me find some pics of you in the revamped photo gallery Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #23 June 25, 2004 Dammit! I was wrong. According to "The New Webster's Grammar Guide" copywrite 1987 by Career Institute Page 46 Incorrect use of compound personal pronouns: "He sent the book to John and me" is Correct Page 42 Pronouns: "It is incorrect to say, `between You and I` the correct form to use in this phrase is ME" Sorry Pammi. Edited cuz my fingers don't always do what they are supposed to do.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themitchyone 0 #24 June 25, 2004 I believe that I is subjective; me is objective. However, I think it is difficult to determine exactly what the subject will be because the phrase "to confirm a previous telephone conversation between to and me" is itself a fragment, not a complete sentence. But it seems in this context it will be objective, me."If the Bible has taught us nothing else, and it hasn't, it's that girls should stick to girl's sports such as hot oil wrestling and foxy boxing." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alienangel 0 #25 June 25, 2004 It's ME. You don't say 'between they', 'between we' or 'between I'. 'I' is the subject and 'me' is the object in the sentence. If in doubt take out the other pronoun, as someone above said. Although it would be better to say, 'To confirm our previous conversation...'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
