Islandcool 0 #1 November 28, 2004 Anyone have more info/details on this? I was looking at the Guinness website and came across it. Was there another type of record being attempted at the time? Largest Mass Parachute Jump On April 18, 2000, 588 military and civilian parachutists, between them representing five nations, parachuted from seven aircraft flying at 3,660 m (12,000 ft) over the Santa Cruz Air Base, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Thanks, Ed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 1 #2 November 28, 2004 I seem to think that they may have beat that in thailand not that long ago, but I dont remember the details....She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islandcool 0 #3 November 28, 2004 QuoteI seem to think that they may have beat that in thailand not that long ago, but I dont remember the details.... I tried to lookup additional details. I found this about the Thailand Mass Freefall record. While in Thailand taking part in the country's Royal Sky Celebration in honor of Queen Sirikit, the World Team also set a new Guinness Book World Record for the largest mass freefall with 672 skydivers from 42 nations plummeting en masse into downtown Bangkok. What is the definition of a "Mass FreeFall". 672 jumpers in the air at once? Is there a limit on separation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerrcoin 0 #4 November 28, 2004 QuoteLargest Mass Parachute Jump On April 18, 2000, 588 military and civilian parachutists...... Surely some of the WWII drops have that beat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 1 #5 November 28, 2004 QuoteWhat is the definition of a "Mass FreeFall". 672 jumpers in the air at once? Is there a limit on separation? I dont remember all the details...but im pretty sure that BillVon or a few others on here have more info...She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Islandcool 0 #6 November 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteLargest Mass Parachute Jump On April 18, 2000, 588 military and civilian parachutists...... Surely some of the WWII drops have that beat. That's what I was thinking but it would have been static line and not considered freefall? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leroydb 0 #7 November 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteLargest Mass Parachute Jump On April 18, 2000, 588 military and civilian parachutists...... Surely some of the WWII drops have that beat. That's what I was thinking but it would have been static line and not considered freefall? yes, but tech look, it reads, "Largest Mass Parachute Jump ," not freefall!Leroy ..I knew I was an unwanted baby when I saw my bath toys were a toaster and a radio... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gerrcoin 0 #8 November 28, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuoteLargest Mass Parachute Jump On April 18, 2000, 588 military and civilian parachutists...... Surely some of the WWII drops have that beat. That's what I was thinking but it would have been static line and not considered freefall? The original post with the Guiness Records quote did not mention freefall but did state the phrase "Largest Mass Parachute Jump", so I would think that they qualify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doogie320 0 #9 November 29, 2004 The Airborne slice, Market, of Operation Market- Garden contained roughly 20,000 paratroopers of 3 divisions. Operation Varsity, the Airborne support of the Rhine crossing was around 14,000 paratroopers in 2 divisions. Many of these men were glider borne and I do not have exact numbers of those arriving in 'chutes vs. those in canvas and plywood gliders. Additionally, not all of those men were in the air at the same time but it is a safe bet that it exceeds 6 or 7 hundred. I don't know why Guiness doesn't list either of these when it does list the evacuation of the USS Lexington as the greatest life-saving operation ever. Certainly Guiness observers weren't on hand for THAT event either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #10 November 29, 2004 It was for the most number of open canopies in the air at the same time. The 572 record was set on the kings(I thik it was the Kings) 72nd birthday, I forget what the numbers represented the second time. They are very superstitious so all the numbers represent something. Both these records were set during the World Team Record attempts (B. J. Worth and Company). Feb. 2004 set the 357 way. I wasn't there so I am sure that someone who was, can fill in the gaps.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #11 November 29, 2004 QuoteIt was for the most number of open canopies in the air at the same time. The 572 record was set on the kings(I thik it was the Kings) 72nd birthday, I forget what the numbers represented the second time. They are very superstitious so all the numbers represent something. Both these records were set during the World Team Record attempts (B. J. Worth and Company). Feb. 2004 set the 357 way. I wasn't there so I am sure that someone who was, can fill in the gaps.. for the superstition thing, thats the most correct. The rest is not actual. 572 for the king was a couple of years ago, when they setup the freefal record which had been beaten by the Eloy record. in early 2004 they did 672 mass jump, and tried a 372 freefall formation (but ONLY pulled out a 357), and that was in honor of the queen's birthday. AFAIK...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,792 #12 November 29, 2004 >I seem to think that they may have beat that in thailand not >that long ago, but I dont remember the details.... 672 people in the mass freefall jump into Sanam Luang, the parade ground in front of the Royal Palace in Bangkok. Happened Jan 24 2004, in celebration of the queen's 72nd borthday. It took 6 C-130's and one other aircraft IIRC. Jump was from ~7000 feet, and we all had streamers. The people on the ground said it looked pretty cool. The wind had picked up and made landing a little treacherous. There were around a dozen serious injuries, from broken femurs to serious head trauma. I escaped with a bloody leg. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #13 November 29, 2004 QuoteIThe wind had picked up and made landing a little treacherous. Thats very true. I landed in the center of the field in front of the Royal Palace safely, and then watched people landing on everything from trees to Buddist Temple roof tops, for about the next 10mins. It wasn't a jump for the uncurrent skydiver. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #14 November 29, 2004 Web site for the event... http://www.theworldteam.com/PPsanam.htm ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,882 #15 November 29, 2004 QuoteQuoteIThe wind had picked up and made landing a little treacherous. Thats very true. I landed in the center of the field in front of the Royal Palace safely, and then watched people landing on everything from trees to Buddist Temple roof tops, for about the next 10mins. It wasn't a jump for the uncurrent skydiver. Ed Doesn't sound like one for a current skydiver either.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #16 November 29, 2004 QuoteDoesn't sound like one for a current skydiver either. Most of the people hurt misjudged their final approach into the grounds and found they had NO forward drive, thus landing short. The wind was 5 to 7mph blowing cross ways to the field and did have some rotars coming off of the building across from the field, but nothing that couldn't be handled if done correctly IMO. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,792 #17 November 29, 2004 >Most of the people hurt misjudged their final approach into the >grounds and found they had NO forward drive, thus landing short. A significant number also caught rotors off the trees/buildings nearby. I landed near the center of the field but caught the tail of a rotor that collapsed my canopy at about 5 feet; fortunately I managed to PLF/slide and just lost some skin on my leg (those track suits they wanted us to wear provided zero protection.) The same rotor caught about 10 people in my area with injuries ranging from scrapes and bruises to a broken leg. I wasn't suprised that so many of the local military jumpers, with their massive gray 7-cell canopies, missed the field, but I was suprised that so many of the experienced jumpers landed out. One woman I talked to landed in the river! That's about 1/3 of a mile off target. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #18 November 29, 2004 Bangkok mass drop videos: http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1469 http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1470 http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1471 Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot1 0 #19 November 29, 2004 QuoteBangkok mass drop videos: http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1469 http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1470 http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=1471 Dave Every time I watch those exits we did over the city, it reminds me of Lemmings. Thanks. Edwww.WestCoastWingsuits.com www.PrecisionSkydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #20 November 29, 2004 Quotefor the superstition thing, thats the most correct. The rest is not actual. 572 for the king was a couple of years ago, when they setup the freefal record which had been beaten by the Eloy record. I am confused by your statement. The 572 happened in 99 (my 64 year old father was on it), Eloy (300 way Free fall) didn't happen until 2002?? The recent record in 2004 was the second Mass Record Jump. Either way what a hell of a jump!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 137 #21 November 29, 2004 yes, 572 mass jump was the same "event" as the "if I remember well" 272 freefall record in Thailand.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
upndownshop 0 #22 November 29, 2004 Quoteyes, 572 mass jump was the same "event" as the "if I remember well" 272 freefall record in Thailand. Ahh thats makes sense, I think you got it. Can you imagine being the last guy out and seeing all those canopies? Had to be an awesome view. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #23 November 29, 2004 QuoteThe Airborne slice, Market, of Operation Market- Garden contained roughly 20,000 paratroopers of 3 divisions. Operation Varsity, the Airborne support of the Rhine crossing was around 14,000 paratroopers in 2 divisions. Many of these men were glider borne and I do not have exact numbers of those arriving in 'chutes vs. those in canvas and plywood gliders. Additionally, not all of those men were in the air at the same time but it is a safe bet that it exceeds 6 or 7 hundred. I don't know why Guiness doesn't list either of these when it does list the evacuation of the USS Lexington as the greatest life-saving operation ever. Certainly Guiness observers weren't on hand for THAT event either. That might be an "Unofficial" record, but unless Guiness was there to record it or they got good video, it doesn't get counted as official. not to mention that in market garden, the parachute drops occured over 2 days. I have no idea on how many where in the air at the same time. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites