popsjumper 2 #26 August 12, 2005 Thanks, kenz....it's just that I saw no harm in giving a little time to the folks doing something they would like to do.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenz 0 #27 August 12, 2005 understandable - and you're right - its nice to spend time doing things with them that they want to do as well"life does throw curveballs sometimes but it doesn't mean we shouldn't still swing for the homerun" ~ me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygirlpc 0 #28 August 12, 2005 I think that it somewhat depends on if this is an every week thing or if this is a special occasion. It sounds like you will just be visiting them over the weekend and in that case if it were me I would opt for going to church with my parents. Relationships are important, skydiving will always be there. Either way, have a great weekend! Danielle "Life is either a great adventure or nothing." - Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,164 #29 August 12, 2005 I generally only go jumping on one day any given weekend. If it's Sunday, and I've already planned church to go with my dad, or because my rarely-meeting church is actually having a service, then I go to church. It's as much about the fellowship, and being in a position where you think about what it means to be a good person for awhile. If I miss a load or two, well, I'll make it up by staying late, or going next week. My advice would be similar to skygirlpc's. I've ditched my parents plenty of times to go skydiving. I regret the ditching far more than the skydiving the times I missed that. But that's because they didn't pull me all the time -- only on important occasions. Most Sundays I read the paper... Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperKat 0 #30 August 12, 2005 I used to think the same way till recently. However, I make myself flexible for church. If I go to church sunday, I make an all day skydiving event on saturday. I can also go to church on saturday and make an all day skydiving event sunday. If I only have one weekend day free and I have to choose either skydiving or church. I do both. Church service can start as early as 9am. I usually go to the 11am service and I'm out of there by 12pm and I have 7 1/2 hours of skydiving for the rest of the day. That's not a bad deal. You can do both if you put yourself up to it. Blue Skies. P.S. If you really feel closer to God when you skydive and you'd rather skydive than be at church. Then, I'll put my 2 cents in and say that you at least pray before and after a jump and give thanks. What's the most you ever lost in a coin toss, Friendo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #31 August 12, 2005 Quote..It's as much about the fellowship, and being in a position where you think about what it means to be a good person for awhile. If I miss a load or two, well, I'll make it up by staying late, or going next week. Good stuff, Wendy Quote...I've ditched my parents plenty of times to go skydiving. I regret the ditching far more than the skydiving the times I missed that. When they are gone, it's going to be tough thinking about things like that...well, for me it was anyway. Wouldn't it be ideal to go to church with them and then they come out to support you skydiving? Well, maybe not a daily basis but you know what I mean, eh?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #32 August 12, 2005 The dropzone is a church - the Church of the Blue Skies. Services are held every Sunday at 12,500 and below. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,164 #33 August 12, 2005 QuoteWouldn't it be ideal to go to church with them and then they come out to support you skydiving?Yeah, but parents aren't always like that. I was lucky. Feelings are different when you're young than when you're older. Doing something now, or the right time, was so much more important then than it is now. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #34 August 12, 2005 To some of us skydiving is our church.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #35 August 12, 2005 Ok, I have to call BS on a bunch of you mofo's in here. I think maybe 1/10th of you who said you see skydiving as your church actually mean it. I skydive on Sundays because it's skydiving and it's what I want to do, and there's no shame in that. This "it's my church" stuff is mostly crap. If you feel so ashamed of not going to church that you have to make an excuse like that, then you'd better get your hell-bound ass to church . . . 'cause God ain't buyin' it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #36 August 12, 2005 QuotePosting this just to get peoples opinions about attending church on Sundays vs. skydiving on Sundays. I will be spending the weekend with my parents, but will tell them that I feel much closer to God skydiving than attending church with them. I think they will understand. And that is how I really feel. I could sit in church with my parents and listen to the pastor preach, or I can go out and experience my kind of religion, I feel so close to God when skydiving, much more than could be expressed in a church. Anyone else feel the same way? I'm not a spiritual kind of guy, but I'm thinking that you could point out to your parents that there is no downside to skydiving instead of going to church. Skydiving makes you feel closer to God. If you screw up, you get to meet him in person. edited to add: I just re-read that. It was supposed to be funny, but it just seems morbid. Ok, morbidly funny, which is find of funny in a way. Well.... Never mind! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #37 August 12, 2005 OK, you caught me! But I really DID see that bumper sticker! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #38 August 12, 2005 QuoteOk, I have to call BS on a bunch of you mofo's in here. I think maybe 1/10th of you who said you see skydiving as your church actually mean it. I skydive on Sundays because it's skydiving and it's what I want to do, and there's no shame in that. This "it's my church" stuff is mostly crap. If you feel so ashamed of not going to church that you have to make an excuse like that, then you'd better get your hell-bound ass to church . . . 'cause God ain't buyin' it. psssst Kelly. this is not speakers Corner! I figure if there is a hell, and Im goin JUST b/c I dont go to church. Give me my rig cuz Im gonna jump in and swoop the lakes of fire baby! Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #39 August 12, 2005 That wasn't even close to a SC post. Don't go in there much, do ya? And you're not going to Hell for not going to church . . . it'd be for lying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #40 August 12, 2005 QuoteThat wasn't even close to a SC post. Don't go in there much, do ya? And you're not going to Hell for not going to church . . . it'd be for lying. no I avoid SC like the plague. Its an online hell! what about coveting thy neighbors gear? its that so bad? [end hijack] If one of my parents wanted me to go to church with them, and if it was important to them. I would go. As long as we didnt make a habit out of it. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #41 August 12, 2005 I never said it was my church, but it's the closest thing i ever want to be to one. There is only one sky. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #42 August 12, 2005 QuoteOk, I have to call BS on a bunch of you mofo's in here. I think maybe 1/10th of you who said you see skydiving as your church actually mean it. I skydive on Sundays because it's skydiving and it's what I want to do, and there's no shame in that. This "it's my church" stuff is mostly crap. If you feel so ashamed of not going to church that you have to make an excuse like that, then you'd better get your hell-bound ass to church . . . 'cause God ain't buyin' it. Gee, that almost sounds (dare I say it?) Speakers Corner-ish. I'm proud of you!!! edited to add: I like Speakers Corner, but they seem to think I'm too opinionated there. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #43 August 12, 2005 Shhhhhhh! I just explained why it wasn't Speaker's Corner-ish. Now you have to go and call me out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sopheavy 0 #44 August 12, 2005 QuoteOk, I have to call BS on a bunch of you mofo's in here. I think maybe 1/10th of you who said you see skydiving as your church actually mean it. I skydive on Sundays because it's skydiving and it's what I want to do, and there's no shame in that. This "it's my church" stuff is mostly crap. If you feel so ashamed of not going to church that you have to make an excuse like that, then you'd better get your hell-bound ass to church . . . 'cause God ain't buyin' it. lol...I agree. If you're already feeling convicted about it, just go to church and spend time with your parents. Can you just go skydiving another day or after church? I reserve Saturdays or Sunday late afternoons to do what I want. Sundays mornings I go to church. Sometimes if I don't go on Sundays, I go Saturday nights or Wednesday evenings. I used to get pissed at my parents because they wanted me home more often but then I realized if I tried to imagine Myself in their shoes, it’s because they miss me and want to see me more because they love me. You don’t ever know when your last days are and you have to take advantage of all the time you can to spend with those who loves you. Just imagine if you have your own kids, how would you feel. If spending some time with your parents on Sundays at church makes them happy, try to make them happy…they probably also want to make sure you go to Heaven too. ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- If you want to see the rainbow, you gotta put up with the storm. God bless! :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #45 August 12, 2005 I know that when I'm home with my parents, I go to church with them, cause that's what they do, that's how I've been raised, and I know they really appreciate it if I do make the effort to go.. But.. if I'm not at my parent's house on Sunday.. then I'm at the dz, and I don't go to church... It's that easy for me, I know it takes away from skydiving to go to church, but I also know how happy it makes them if I decide not to go skydiving, but go to church with them.. Its a small thing that makes them happy.. why not.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #46 August 12, 2005 QuotePosting this just to get peoples opinions about attending church on Sundays vs. skydiving on Sundays. I will be spending the weekend with my parents, but will tell them that I feel much closer to God skydiving than attending church with them. I think they will understand. And that is how I really feel. I could sit in church with my parents and listen to the pastor preach, or I can go out and experience my kind of religion, I feel so close to God when skydiving, much more than could be expressed in a church. Anyone else feel the same way? Here you go. 1. Skydiving is real. 2. Church is bollocks. No reason to let organized superstition bugger up your weekends is there ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #47 August 12, 2005 What Wendy, pops and vdschoor said. I go to Church every Sunday...and then to the DZ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joellercoaster 6 #48 August 12, 2005 You can skydive anytime... if you're deliberately hanging with your parents, then there's value to be had in going to church with them too if'n you're religiously tended yourself. But as skybytch and others have pointed out, for those of us not inclined towards organised religion, and in the words of the immortal Rollo: "This is my church. This is where I heal my hurts..." -- "I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan "You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evelyn 0 #49 August 12, 2005 LOL. Think a little more explanation is needed. My parents just recently started going to church with my sister and now they are born again Christians and very into church, bible study, prayer groups, etc. Last time I visited my parents I went to church with them (then a church picnic, then a church concert - the whole day was spent with church stuff). I think it's great for them but it just wasn't my thing (I'm Catholic and attend mass on special occasions). I will be visiting my parents and spending time outside of church with them. But now my mom expects me to attend church with them and while I enjoy being with my parents, I'd like to skip the church part (the service is like 2 hrs.) and head to the DZ without feeling guilty about it. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing ~ Helen Keller Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #50 August 12, 2005 Quote(I'm Catholic and attend mass on special occasions). ... I'd like to skip the church part (the service is like 2 hrs.) and head to the DZ without feeling guilty about it. I think you are being unrealistic. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites