GetOut 0 #1 June 12, 2008 Isn’t it about time for someone to develop a bandless main D-bag. It’s only been 30 plus years using rubber bands to stow lines and lock bag. Someone would make a killing if they came up with a viable solution. Geez I hate replacing broken bands every pack job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #2 June 12, 2008 Would it also kill you to search?"The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #3 June 12, 2008 QuoteIsn’t it about time for someone to develop a bandless main D-bag. It’s only been 30 plus years using rubber bands to stow lines and lock bag. It's been done, although it's more work to neatly stow the lines without bands of any sort. Quote Someone would make a killing if they came up with a viable solution. Geez I hate replacing broken bands every pack job! Tube stoes, calf castrators, silibands, etc. usually don't break. They wear out but you can replace them at your convienience (say last pack job of the day) when they start looking worn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #4 June 12, 2008 i have a couple that only require 2 locking stows, my teammate is developing a d-bag with no bands at all, and i've seen the pd factory team in the past have bandless d-bags. i can stow my d-bag faster than most people with d-bags with bands, or at the very least at the same rateSlip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moto89 0 #5 June 12, 2008 As Emeril would say, BAAAM! http://youtube.com/watch?v=qVdgx3b_u8gLess talking, more flying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #6 June 12, 2008 and those guys have one with magnets on their advanced rig..“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarrySwinnen 0 #7 June 12, 2008 Recently I developed what you are looking for....It's called a "mPOD". This stands for "Magnetic Parachute Opening Device"...Test jumps have proven that it's a perfect solution if you want to get rid of rubber bands. Check out the attachment... You can contact me to make you one. Go and see my site : www.pgasus.beFor once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return...(LDV) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 June 12, 2008 Nice..... are there any recorded malfunctions that can be attributed to the bag? Bad packing or otherwise? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #9 June 12, 2008 Do a search on "berger bag" and "bergerbag" and you will find at least 2 pages worth of links to this topic dating back as far as 2003 along with mfgrs that used to offer them as an option."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarrySwinnen 0 #10 June 12, 2008 None...so far, but where still in testing fase. As soon as we've done at least 1000 jumps with it, then I can state that this new "mPOD" is a huge success....Nevertheless, the current testpilots are very pleased with its results......There are already 4 bags in the field, up and running and there will be added some more shortly... For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return...(LDV) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 June 12, 2008 Great - good luck Harry. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chrisky 0 #12 June 16, 2008 I'm wondering; Might there be the slightest whatever chance of the magnets interfering with the AADs circuity/chips?The mind is like a parachute - it only works once it's open. From the edge you just see more. ... Not every Swooper hooks & not every Hooker swoops ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarrySwinnen 0 #13 June 16, 2008 Hi Christian, at first, I did have the same concern...So, I got in contact with all 3 AAD manufacturers and they confirmed me that the type of material used in the magnets does not interfere with the AAD electronics. They all have been doing some thorough tests... Thus ,one can safely jump a mPOD...For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return...(LDV) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #14 June 16, 2008 Where can I find info about that mPOD? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarrySwinnen 0 #15 June 16, 2008 Hi Gábor, You can find info on my site www.pgasus.be . The site is being translated right now and the english version will be available soon.For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return...(LDV) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #16 June 16, 2008 Thanks. I'm interested, but still not sure if I could use one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NexGenSkydiver 0 #17 June 16, 2008 are your bags size specific like previous models of bandless bags or can you use several different size canopies of the same model on the same bag? If so.....how is the canopy held securely in the bag without the concern of line dump? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #18 June 17, 2008 A D bag without rubber bands and equiped with line stowing pocket (just like a reserve free bag) has been made by GQ Security parachute manufacturer (if my memory is good) for the main canopy called the UNIT. That was in the early eighties.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koppel 3 #19 July 5, 2008 The locking stow method is not shown in that picture. What method are you using, Magnets, tabs, bands??I like my canopy... ...it lets me down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BKR 0 #20 July 5, 2008 Here is what we have on our Seven main bag. We used just bands to close the flap and the remaining lines are in a reserve style pocket using magnets to secure itJérôme Bunker Basik Air Concept www.basik.fr http://www.facebook.com/pages/Le-Luc-France/BASIK-AIR-CONCEPT/172133350468 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarrySwinnen 0 #21 July 7, 2008 Just magnets, that's all....For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return...(LDV) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #22 July 8, 2008 Is that Velcro? If so its not good for the everyday jumper. Care needs to be taken packing. Velcro can do serious damage to your lines. In Fact, Reserve lines are uncoated, I have seen reserves that needed lines replaced, because the jumpers didnt stow their toggles when landing, and their lines got caught in the velcro from their risers. Ray Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jurgencamps 0 #23 July 8, 2008 QuoteIs that Velcro? If so its not good for the everyday jumper. Care needs to be taken packing. Velcro can do serious damage to your lines. In Fact, Reserve lines are uncoated, I have seen reserves that needed lines replaced, because the jumpers didnt stow their toggles when landing, and their lines got caught in the velcro from their risers. Ray No velcro, only magnets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #24 July 8, 2008 Aaah,well then, thats a very nice design. Ray Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites