ACMESkydiver 0 #1 October 26, 2006 Any ideas how this REALLY works? There are a few varieties of woodpeckers here in Washington state...some are on the 'state lists': State Endangered, State Threatened, State Sensitive, or State Candidate. -Whatever the hell those mean. So if one of these rare red-headed yellow-speckled sap-sucking woodpeckers is making a colony in my home, can I hire anyone to shoo them out or is it illegal? I did some internet searching and I still don't quite get it...I'll try calling an exterminator tomoorow, but does anyone have any info? Check this out: http://www.attackspider.com/?gclid=COHyqsn3lYgCFUJkGAodCFVw9w the only problem is getting this spider up to the 2nd story roof...we don't have a long enough ladder, and if we DID, neither of us is gettin' up on it. Anyhoo, I am concerned about the babies, too. I mean, if we drive out the mama and papa with ultra-sonic or jumping spiders or hooting owl decoys, won't the babies starve and die up there? That's why we didn't board up the vent hole that the other little birdies made on the other side of the house -my father-in-law was horrified that we would kill babies. Winter we thought we were safe to board the stuff up...but now the damn WOODPECKERS are having a pork-fest and producing offspring at a rapid rate! In the WINTER! WTF??~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #2 October 26, 2006 Day-um!! Check this out!! QuoteSome Interior Department officials believe that the Endangered Species Act requires human beings to act like sacrificial animals. John Shuler, a Montana rancher was fined $4,000 by the Interior Department for shooting a grizzly bear that was heading to attack him. Grizzly bears had been mauling Shuler's sheep for months. When he heard a disturbance late one night, he grabbed his gun and went outside. He saw three grizzlies attacking his sheep — and a fourth one heading towards him. The man shot the bear that was charging him and then retreated to the safety of his home. Source is: http://www.fff.org/freedom/0698d.asp Here's another quote, this rocks! : QuoteThe essence of the ESA is that every type of insect and animal must have absolute rights superior to those of human beings. As a Wall Street Journal editorial noted, "Enforcement of the act is being effectively steered by the BANANA: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything." Each endangered species that the government adds to its list increases the arbitrary power of FWS agents to confiscate and control property belonging to individual Americans. As former Interior Department chief economist Richard Stroup observes, "The Fish and Wildlife Service faces no budget constraint on the number of acres it can control in the name of endangered species, so it always wants more." This might be slipping down into SC territory, but I really am looking for anyone's first-hand experience or thoughts from their friends'/neighbors' experiences...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 October 26, 2006 Call me nuts, but I think the first thing I'd do is contact the folks that would care the most; http://www.audubon.org/. Tell them the situation. Tell them that you LOVE birds and want to protect them, but you're afraid that they're going to die very, very soon if something isn't done to relocate them. Don't make it an arguement, make it a plea for the bird's lives. Does this make sense?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #4 October 26, 2006 QuoteThis might be slipping down into SC territory... Ya think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #5 October 26, 2006 Check out this website. http://www.myfreebirdrelocation.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrGuy 0 #6 October 26, 2006 A simple solution would be to do the same as a BAT EXCLUSION method. One-way "doors" are created at the entrances to the attic which the birds are using. This is done by stapling nylon netting (that same stuff you might buy in big rolls at the hardware store to cover blueberry bushes, etc..) around the openings in such a way that it will allow the birds to exit, but will confuse them enough to prevent their entering back in. Any competent extermination company will have this in their bag of tricks. Good luck. It probably will run you a few hundred dollars depending on how high the roof is, and how many openings there might be to the attic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #7 October 26, 2006 QuoteCall me nuts, but I think the first thing I'd do is contact the folks that would care the most; http://www.audubon.org/. Tell them the situation. Tell them that you LOVE birds and want to protect them, but you're afraid that they're going to die very, very soon if something isn't done to relocate them. Don't make it an arguement, make it a plea for the bird's lives. Does this make sense? That's smart Quade, but I am so afraid of it backfiring...they could easily ask me to leave them alone and allow these creatures to make swiss cheese of my home to allow them their current habitat. I've got to get these buggers on camera so I can really see which variety they are. They do have red on them, that's all I know for certain...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 639 #8 October 26, 2006 "Honestly - I have NO idea how that cat got into the attic..it isn't even MY cat!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #9 October 26, 2006 QuoteA simple solution would be to do the same as a BAT EXCLUSION method. One-way "doors" are created at the entrances to the attic which the birds are using. This is done by stapling nylon netting (that same stuff you might buy in big rolls at the hardware store to cover blueberry bushes, etc..) around the openings in such a way that it will allow the birds to exit, but will confuse them enough to prevent their entering back in. Any competent extermination company will have this in their bag of tricks. Good luck. It probably will run you a few hundred dollars depending on how high the roof is, and how many openings there might be to the attic. SWEET! You're a genius. I'll call my contractor buddy first and ask him if he wants to do this. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steveorino 7 #10 October 26, 2006 borrow a friends's cat for a few days. steveOrino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #11 October 26, 2006 QuoteCheck out this website. http://www.myfreebirdrelocation.com. Linky no worky. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #12 October 26, 2006 Quote "Honestly - I have NO idea how that cat got into the attic..it isn't even MY cat!" Brilliant, absolutely brilliant!!! We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindercles 0 #13 October 26, 2006 My god Jaye, did you actually try to click on the link for MY FREE BIRD RELOCATOR?? Here, try this one http://www.myfreeinternetscam.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #14 October 26, 2006 Kiss my ass!! I thought you were trying to help me! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 639 #15 October 26, 2006 omfg! I needed a guffaw like that! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 4 #16 October 26, 2006 You do the same thing with emails too, don't you? it's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcrocker 0 #17 October 26, 2006 You should contact your states game & wildlife department and ask them when you should do. If it truly is endangered they would probably want to remove it from the hazardous conditions in your attic. You do have lots of Decon in your attic right? The birds could eat that which is bad. The state should come rescue the birds ASAP. If it isn't endangered then get a pot of water boiling and have woodpecker stew Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #18 October 26, 2006 QuoteYou do the same thing with emails too, don't you? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Geez! Whaddaya think, I'm not blonde, ya know! Of course there are those websites that I am soooo fond of donating my money to. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingJ 0 #19 October 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteCall me nuts, but I think the first thing I'd do is contact the folks that would care the most; http://www.audubon.org/. That's smart Quade, but I am so afraid of it backfiring... Consider calling whatever local agency deals with wildlife protection and management, like the state fish and game commission, etc. As you mentioned, you would probably want to try and get a pic to show them first, but in my experience local land/wildlife management agencies typically take a much more grounded approach to “managing” situations like this as opposed to the “save them all, who cares about the humans” approach you could potentially run into with more protection based organizations. It might be completely out of their scope of practice, but they could probably point you in the right direction.Killing threads since 2004. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites