moth 0 #1 September 19, 2006 Is there a website that sells tube stoes at a reasonable rate? the only 1s that i can find are at dzsports.com and they cost £8.00 for 10 and i think thats extortionate or is that the going rate? btw im in the uk... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #2 September 19, 2006 You can make by yourself. You need some tools and some silicone tube like 4mm x 1mm and/or 7mm x 1.5mm and some silicone glue maybe. !m of silicone tube costs less than 3 Euros. Optimal tube length is about 105-120mm with 10mm overlay. I made 6 big and 8 small tubes yesterday in less than 30 minutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #3 September 19, 2006 They go for 1 euro each here, so yeah, they're expensive... ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #4 September 19, 2006 I make my own. My method uses no adhesive. Put the 'joint' in the larkshead where there is little tension, and they've never pulled apart. Years ago bulk silicone tubing could be found in the fishing/sporting goods section of any department store (really cheap per foot). I finally was going to make some more, but now I can't find it in the stores. I'm sure a search will find some place to order from. Use a pair of needlenose pliers to turn one end over about 5mm. Insert the closed pliers into the other end and open the pliers to expand the tubing. Now take a pair of hemostats (sp?) or similar instrument used for other purposes to grab the turned over end of the tubing and insert it into the opened end. Carefully slide the tubing off the pliers and you're done. No need to glue anything. Using adhesive instead of turning over the end would result in a little less bulk, so that is an option also. I only use tube stows for the critical 2 locking stows. I like knowing they are strong and unlikely to break when they are under so much tension - as the bag is being lifted off.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fcajump 154 #5 September 19, 2006 Ah... but WHERE have you found the right tube to use...?Always remember that some clouds are harder than others... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #6 September 19, 2006 QuoteAh... but WHERE have you found the right tube to use...? It was available in the local Walmart, but I can't find it in any local stores. I haven't made them in so long that I now need a new source, probably will be online.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 26 #7 September 19, 2006 Med supply stores probaly would be a good bet.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #8 September 19, 2006 Quote Ah... but WHERE have you found the right tube to use...? Search net for silicone tube. 7x1.5mm is good for main locking stows, 4x1mm is for the rest. I've followed sundevil's advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 0 #9 September 19, 2006 QuoteI only use tube stows for the critical 2 locking stows. I like knowing they are strong and unlikely to break when they are under so much tension - as the bag is being lifted off. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but surely the two locking stows are under no additional pressure as the bag lifts out of the container? As I understand it, the only way to add tension is from the lines, and they're being metered by the other stows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #10 September 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteI only use tube stows for the critical 2 locking stows. I like knowing they are strong and unlikely to break when they are under so much tension - as the bag is being lifted off. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but surely the two locking stows are under no additional pressure as the bag lifts out of the container? As I understand it, the only way to add tension is from the lines, and they're being metered by the other stows. There is a lot of extra pressure because of the weight of the canopy fabric will have to be accelerated (the pilot chute yanks it out of the container). The only thing that prevents the bag being stripped off the canopy are the locking stows, they will be stretched to some extent because of the extra forces involved with the acceleration. Someone a while back posted a picture of a D-bag with the locking stows stretched an amazing amount as it was lifting.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lekstrom10k 0 #11 September 20, 2006 I have gotten it Binsons in the Detroit area.They sell wheel chairs ,bath tub adapters and railings , etc etc. I wanted tubing to replace goggle bands for our tandems . It didnt come in decorator colors but they sure had enough. A friend said at his hospital they had actual inserting tools too.Maybe some doctor jumpers could line all of us up . there is always asking the local junkie where he gats his for shooting up. So its not that hard to find ,I just looked in my phone book and was surprised at how many stores there were, Hope this helps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWPoul 1 #12 September 20, 2006 QuoteI make my own. My method uses no adhesive. Put the 'joint' in the larkshead where there is little tension, and they've never pulled apart. Use a pair of needlenose pliers to turn one end over about 5mm. Insert the closed pliers into the other end and open the pliers to expand the tubing. Now take a pair of hemostats (sp?) or similar instrument used for other purposes to grab the turned over end of the tubing and insert it into the opened end. Carefully slide the tubing off the pliers and you're done. No need to glue anything. Using adhesive instead of turning over the end would result in a little less bulk, so that is an option also. Did I understood your method correct (pls see attachment)? This assembly does not take apart without clue?Why drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 94 #13 September 20, 2006 QuoteQuoteI make my own. My method uses no adhesive. Put the 'joint' in the larkshead where there is little tension, and they've never pulled apart. Use a pair of needlenose pliers to turn one end over about 5mm. Insert the closed pliers into the other end and open the pliers to expand the tubing. Now take a pair of hemostats (sp?) or similar instrument used for other purposes to grab the turned over end of the tubing and insert it into the opened end. Carefully slide the tubing off the pliers and you're done. No need to glue anything. Using adhesive instead of turning over the end would result in a little less bulk, so that is an option also. Did I understood your method correct (pls see attachment)? This assembly does not take apart without clue? That is it. If you put the joint at the base of the larkshead, there is very little stress on it - so it won't come apart.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #14 September 20, 2006 Hmm. That's interesting. I did other way round before. I'll try this too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #15 September 20, 2006 I've tried. That's not really working out that way. It really hard to squeeze the end with the turned back part into the other and it is coming out easier than the other way around. Here is my way to make it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWPoul 1 #16 September 21, 2006 QuoteI've tried. That's not really working out that way. It really hard to squeeze the end with the turned back part into the other and it is coming out easier than the other way around. Here is my way to make it. Yep, choiced this method too, Initially thought just to put some glue on one of the end of the tube and pass 'em in to the other...but "rolover idea" seems better:) thx for the pics;)Why drink and drive, if you can smoke and fly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #17 September 21, 2006 QuoteYep, choiced this method too, Initially thought just to put some glue on one of the end of the tube and pass 'em in to the other...but "rolover idea" seems better:) thx for the pics;) Any time! Silicone is one of the worst material I have ever worked with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites