BillyVance 34 #126 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote At least the Brits had a nice song about this : Anarchy in the UK Nowadays it's Anarchy at the DZ "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #127 March 28, 2007 QuoteCan we just ban Fish? A flying herring doing 90 knots will definately kill you - and someone else if it's frozen. The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yardhippie 0 #128 March 28, 2007 I had a bit of a heated debate last night with Andy C., and Jello. I listed many of the things that I though would help. I'll not do it here b/c Im lauging at this thread. it reminds me of a saying in the south: "even a blind squirell will find a nut once in a while". Action without thought has potential for dire consequences, but a well thought out plan, has great potential for success. That, IMHO, is what JP is saying. Im going to look at hot chicks in rigs now. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #129 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteCan we just ban Fish? A flying herring doing 90 knots will definately kill you - and someone else if it's frozen. The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. At least they aren't Canuckian. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chrismgtis 0 #130 March 28, 2007 Boogies don't kill people. Skydivers who can't continue to use common sense on every jump, especially with a lot of canopies in the air, kill people. As they say, guns don't kill people, people kill people, which pretty much applies in the same way. I've got 28 jumps and I'm guilty of it doing something stupid under canopy. I'm sure everyone here is. The way I see it people need to be flying very consistent patterns on every jump and constantly twist their neck to check their airspace like the meaning of life is somewhere written on a cloud.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #131 March 28, 2007 Quote You mean like... pissing off the kitty??? Uh, Oh walt now ya gone and done it!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #132 March 28, 2007 Quote The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. Oh hell NO... thems is fightin' words Bi-otch! 'Blame Cana-DAH'... Now THAT makes sense! You fuckers still owe us an explaination for Mariah Carey.... well start splainin'!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites turtlespeed 212 #133 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuote The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. Oh hell NO... thems is fightin' words Bi-otch! 'Blame Cana-DAH'... Now THAT makes sense! You fuckers still owe us an explaination for Mariah Carey.... well start splainin'! Can we ban Canada? Shell - Get over here Quick!!!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #134 March 28, 2007 QuoteCan we ban Canada? You already have ... hell at times I want to ban Canada. But I better not go there otherwise I'll get this thread moved into the Speakers Corner. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites CanuckInUSA 0 #135 March 28, 2007 QuoteYou fuckers still owe us an explaination for Mariah Carey.... well start splainin' If I knew what you were talking about maybe I could splain some'thung to ya. But I don't know shit. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GravityJunky 0 #136 March 28, 2007 Quote If I knew what you were talking about maybe I could splain some'thung to ya. But I don't know shit. We already knew that... you're canadian Yea, Shell hurry up over here, we're banning Canada PERMANENTLY! That solve ALOT of problems!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,400 #137 March 28, 2007 >Know what else?? Thats the risk you take when you get in the door >and jump out of the damn plane. You take a risk every time you drive down the street. Does that mean you're OK with drunk driving? After all, you can be killed by anyone, drunk or sober. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chaoskitty 0 #138 March 28, 2007 Quote>Know what else?? Thats the risk you take when you get in the door >and jump out of the damn plane. You take a risk every time you drive down the street. Does that mean you're OK with drunk driving? After all, you can be killed by anyone, drunk or sober. Exactly. Danny was a highly skilled canopy pilot who made a terrible mistake with a fatal outcome. If I'm driving down the street and get hit by a professional race car driver who ran a red light, then I guess its my day to go. I really can't argue this anymore. I'm exhausted from being upset and sick over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ladyflyer77 0 #139 March 28, 2007 hot chicks in rigs....oh yeah, forgot about that one. ENJOY!!! If I stand on my tip toes, I can see the weekend from here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 135 #140 March 28, 2007 QuoteCan we just ban Fish? A flying herring doing 90 knots will definately kill you - and someone else if it's frozen.no you can't cause I'm faster than the ban. And colder too. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #141 March 28, 2007 QuoteJust ban skydiving. It's a stupid way to spend your weekend. Seriously. The downside of what we do is the risk of an early and unpleasant death from sudden impact trauma. Thats's the coin we pay for the high. If you can't handle it, the door to leave is always open. I think you know that our thoughts are alike on this subject.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gkc1436 3 #142 March 28, 2007 >I've got a better idea--let's not tolerate behavior that puts others at risk. maybe you should put that big orange label on some rigs and all main canopys on your reading list. the moment your rig goes on you are risking your life as well as others, remember, even if you do everything correctly, you can still die doing this harsh reality, YES but its the truth...... g Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #143 March 28, 2007 Quote>I've got a better idea--let's not tolerate behavior that puts others at risk. maybe you should put that big orange label on some rigs and all main canopys on your reading list. the moment your rig goes on you are risking your life as well as others, remember, even if you do everything correctly, you can still die doing this harsh reality, YES but its the truth...... g Maybe you should put this on *your* reading list: Quote willful negligence. Intentional performance of an unreasonable act in disregard of a known risk, making it highly probable that harm will be caused. Willful negligence usually involves a conscious indifference to the consequences. Call me picky, but I don't think it's acceptable. YMMV Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yardhippie 0 #144 March 28, 2007 Quote willful negligence. Intentional performance of an unreasonable act in disregard of a known risk, making it highly probable that harm will be caused. Willful negligence usually involves a conscious indifference to the consequences. Walt Yup, pretty much sums up skydiving. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #145 March 28, 2007 QuoteYup, pretty much sums up skydiving. Not at DZs here in Texas. YMMV Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites MrHixxx 0 #146 March 28, 2007 Just ban skydiving. It's a stupid way to spend your weekend. Seriously. The downside of what we do is the risk of an early and unpleasant death from sudden impact trauma. Thats's the coin we pay for the high. If you can't handle it, the door to leave is always open. *** Well said, if you are not wiiling to accept the possibilities of reaching for something "more." Maybe you should stay home and be content with a safer, structured, more secure life. Just know, something stupid may take you out anyway, like a drive to the convenience store. Go fast and take chances or... well you know... -Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yardhippie 0 #147 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteYup, pretty much sums up skydiving. Not at DZs here in Texas. YMMV Walt dont really see how you figure that. We all perform and action that has dire consequences. We accept the risk. We willfuly sign away our rights to sue, so that we may jump. Thousand pile into boogies around the world knowing that at anymoment things could get ugly. we can easily spriral down into a debate of semantics, and exactly what deoes that "word" mean. Oh, and Ive got time in at DZs in Texas (200-300 jumps), the problems are everywere.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #148 March 28, 2007 Ok, let me put it this way. Do you consider disregarding the safety of others while you are jumping to be acceptable? That's not a rhetorical question. My answer to that question is an emphatic NO. I don't consider actions of that type to be in the same category as other risks inherent in our sport. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yardhippie 0 #149 March 28, 2007 QuoteOk, let me put it this way. Do you consider disregarding the safety of others while you are jumping to be acceptable? Walt I do not consider it acceptable.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,400 #150 March 28, 2007 >If I'm driving down the street and get hit by a professional race car driver >who ran a red light, then I guess its my day to go. That's true. And I will ask you again - does that mean you are OK with drunk driving, since you can die anyway? Or do you think that drunk driving is not OK because it puts other drivers more at risk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next Page 6 of 8 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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CanuckInUSA 0 #127 March 28, 2007 QuoteCan we just ban Fish? A flying herring doing 90 knots will definately kill you - and someone else if it's frozen. The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #128 March 28, 2007 I had a bit of a heated debate last night with Andy C., and Jello. I listed many of the things that I though would help. I'll not do it here b/c Im lauging at this thread. it reminds me of a saying in the south: "even a blind squirell will find a nut once in a while". Action without thought has potential for dire consequences, but a well thought out plan, has great potential for success. That, IMHO, is what JP is saying. Im going to look at hot chicks in rigs now. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #129 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteCan we just ban Fish? A flying herring doing 90 knots will definately kill you - and someone else if it's frozen. The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. At least they aren't Canuckian. I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismgtis 0 #130 March 28, 2007 Boogies don't kill people. Skydivers who can't continue to use common sense on every jump, especially with a lot of canopies in the air, kill people. As they say, guns don't kill people, people kill people, which pretty much applies in the same way. I've got 28 jumps and I'm guilty of it doing something stupid under canopy. I'm sure everyone here is. The way I see it people need to be flying very consistent patterns on every jump and constantly twist their neck to check their airspace like the meaning of life is somewhere written on a cloud.Rodriguez Brother #1614, Muff Brother #4033 Jumped: Twin Otter, Cessna 182, CASA, Helicopter, Caravan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #131 March 28, 2007 Quote You mean like... pissing off the kitty??? Uh, Oh walt now ya gone and done it!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #132 March 28, 2007 Quote The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. Oh hell NO... thems is fightin' words Bi-otch! 'Blame Cana-DAH'... Now THAT makes sense! You fuckers still owe us an explaination for Mariah Carey.... well start splainin'!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #133 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuote The first thing we must do is kill all the lawyers. The second thing is to ban all the Turtles. After all they are slow and often very very very old. Oh hell NO... thems is fightin' words Bi-otch! 'Blame Cana-DAH'... Now THAT makes sense! You fuckers still owe us an explaination for Mariah Carey.... well start splainin'! Can we ban Canada? Shell - Get over here Quick!!!I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #134 March 28, 2007 QuoteCan we ban Canada? You already have ... hell at times I want to ban Canada. But I better not go there otherwise I'll get this thread moved into the Speakers Corner. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #135 March 28, 2007 QuoteYou fuckers still owe us an explaination for Mariah Carey.... well start splainin' If I knew what you were talking about maybe I could splain some'thung to ya. But I don't know shit. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityJunky 0 #136 March 28, 2007 Quote If I knew what you were talking about maybe I could splain some'thung to ya. But I don't know shit. We already knew that... you're canadian Yea, Shell hurry up over here, we're banning Canada PERMANENTLY! That solve ALOT of problems!*My Inner Child is A Fucking Prick Too! *Everyones entitled to be stupid but you are abusing the priviledge *Well I'd love to stay & chat, But youre a total Bitch! {Stewie} Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #137 March 28, 2007 >Know what else?? Thats the risk you take when you get in the door >and jump out of the damn plane. You take a risk every time you drive down the street. Does that mean you're OK with drunk driving? After all, you can be killed by anyone, drunk or sober. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoskitty 0 #138 March 28, 2007 Quote>Know what else?? Thats the risk you take when you get in the door >and jump out of the damn plane. You take a risk every time you drive down the street. Does that mean you're OK with drunk driving? After all, you can be killed by anyone, drunk or sober. Exactly. Danny was a highly skilled canopy pilot who made a terrible mistake with a fatal outcome. If I'm driving down the street and get hit by a professional race car driver who ran a red light, then I guess its my day to go. I really can't argue this anymore. I'm exhausted from being upset and sick over it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyflyer77 0 #139 March 28, 2007 hot chicks in rigs....oh yeah, forgot about that one. ENJOY!!! If I stand on my tip toes, I can see the weekend from here! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #140 March 28, 2007 QuoteCan we just ban Fish? A flying herring doing 90 knots will definately kill you - and someone else if it's frozen.no you can't cause I'm faster than the ban. And colder too. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #141 March 28, 2007 QuoteJust ban skydiving. It's a stupid way to spend your weekend. Seriously. The downside of what we do is the risk of an early and unpleasant death from sudden impact trauma. Thats's the coin we pay for the high. If you can't handle it, the door to leave is always open. I think you know that our thoughts are alike on this subject.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gkc1436 3 #142 March 28, 2007 >I've got a better idea--let's not tolerate behavior that puts others at risk. maybe you should put that big orange label on some rigs and all main canopys on your reading list. the moment your rig goes on you are risking your life as well as others, remember, even if you do everything correctly, you can still die doing this harsh reality, YES but its the truth...... g Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #143 March 28, 2007 Quote>I've got a better idea--let's not tolerate behavior that puts others at risk. maybe you should put that big orange label on some rigs and all main canopys on your reading list. the moment your rig goes on you are risking your life as well as others, remember, even if you do everything correctly, you can still die doing this harsh reality, YES but its the truth...... g Maybe you should put this on *your* reading list: Quote willful negligence. Intentional performance of an unreasonable act in disregard of a known risk, making it highly probable that harm will be caused. Willful negligence usually involves a conscious indifference to the consequences. Call me picky, but I don't think it's acceptable. YMMV Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #144 March 28, 2007 Quote willful negligence. Intentional performance of an unreasonable act in disregard of a known risk, making it highly probable that harm will be caused. Willful negligence usually involves a conscious indifference to the consequences. Walt Yup, pretty much sums up skydiving. Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #145 March 28, 2007 QuoteYup, pretty much sums up skydiving. Not at DZs here in Texas. YMMV Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #146 March 28, 2007 Just ban skydiving. It's a stupid way to spend your weekend. Seriously. The downside of what we do is the risk of an early and unpleasant death from sudden impact trauma. Thats's the coin we pay for the high. If you can't handle it, the door to leave is always open. *** Well said, if you are not wiiling to accept the possibilities of reaching for something "more." Maybe you should stay home and be content with a safer, structured, more secure life. Just know, something stupid may take you out anyway, like a drive to the convenience store. Go fast and take chances or... well you know... -Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #147 March 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteYup, pretty much sums up skydiving. Not at DZs here in Texas. YMMV Walt dont really see how you figure that. We all perform and action that has dire consequences. We accept the risk. We willfuly sign away our rights to sue, so that we may jump. Thousand pile into boogies around the world knowing that at anymoment things could get ugly. we can easily spriral down into a debate of semantics, and exactly what deoes that "word" mean. Oh, and Ive got time in at DZs in Texas (200-300 jumps), the problems are everywere.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #148 March 28, 2007 Ok, let me put it this way. Do you consider disregarding the safety of others while you are jumping to be acceptable? That's not a rhetorical question. My answer to that question is an emphatic NO. I don't consider actions of that type to be in the same category as other risks inherent in our sport. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yardhippie 0 #149 March 28, 2007 QuoteOk, let me put it this way. Do you consider disregarding the safety of others while you are jumping to be acceptable? Walt I do not consider it acceptable.Goddam dirty hippies piss me off! ~GFD "What do I get for closing your rig?" ~ me "Anything you want." ~ female skydiver Mohoso Rodriguez #865 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #150 March 28, 2007 >If I'm driving down the street and get hit by a professional race car driver >who ran a red light, then I guess its my day to go. That's true. And I will ask you again - does that mean you are OK with drunk driving, since you can die anyway? Or do you think that drunk driving is not OK because it puts other drivers more at risk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
