Bolas 5 #101 July 15, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote "Well, maybe. But that's not the worst part. The third time I went out with him . . ." Dear GOD - someone should cut out her ovaries!! What is WRONG with people?? Lack of self-respect?? [shakes head..] She had to give him one more chance... "I made him promise not to watch porn, do blow, and bang his ex in front of me..." Wow.. That kinda cuts down the options for the 3rd date... There's still anime, heroin, and a hooker.Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #102 July 15, 2010 Quote I'm at a loss for words. I'll take "Things skyflower_bloom will never say" for $400"I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolas 5 #103 July 15, 2010 Quote >I do hope you at least tried to explain all that is wrong with her aproach ... I gave it a shot, but there's only so much you can tell someone who's 25 and hasn't been in many relationships. Some things you have to learn on your own. There should be laws and regulations to protect these types of people in addition to the coaching/advice they can already get. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #104 July 15, 2010 Quote Quote I'm at a loss for words. I'll take 'Things skyflower_bloom will never say for $400' That is hysterical! Bolas - I REALLY hope you made that story up. If not, she shouldn't be allowed to make her own decisions; like what to wear, who to see, what to say... And I always pay. I am not dating, but even when I eat with friends, I pick up the tab. I make good money and the whole issue makes me feel awkward. I just slip the waitress my card. I can't recall a girl ever offering, but the idea of accepting such an offer seems strange to me. Oh. And using the words strategy or techniques in regards to dating is outrageous to me. Strategies are most often used in a win/lose encounter. It seems to me that open communication and honesty should lead to a win/win or mutual agreement to move on. Why does that require a strategy or technique? Sigh.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agentsmith413 0 #105 July 15, 2010 Quote Quote and spent 75 bucks on dinner and I thought it would have been nice if you maybe paid for the beer or something. Okay, the women may flame me for this, but I say never spend a lot of money of the first date. Casual dinner, maybe a movie, but you're setting the bar, and expectations, too high. The first date is a "get to know ya" time, not the Senior Prom. Keep it light and easy.And if you end up in the sack, cool. +10000000000 This is so true. I used to spend so much on a first date hoping to impress the girl. Such a bad move for the first date. Keep it simple and fun. Those usually turn out to be the best dates.Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, all used up, and loudly proclaiming: Wow, what a ride! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #106 July 15, 2010 QuoteAnd I always pay. I am not dating, but even when I eat with friends, I pick up the tab. I make good money and the whole issue makes me feel awkward. I just slip the waitress my card. I can't recall a girl ever offering, but the idea of accepting such an offer seems strange to me. So your friend says "let me take you out to lunch, my treat this time" would you still slip the waitress your card? I hope not... that shows a disrespect of your friend's desire to take you out, regardless of the fact that you "make good money." To me that would be like having someone give me a gift and saying "Oh, this is wonderful, how much do I owe you for that?" It's really not any different for dating. If someone offers to treat ... let them."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #107 July 15, 2010 No. I try to receive gifts gracefully. What you describe would be a gift. Thanks for taking my use of the term 'always' so literally that you made me into an ass. I just hold personal relationships in much higher regard than money. Therefore, I don't let money enter the picture if I can help it. I also don't sell things to friends for similar reasoning. I've given things to people that had a great deal of financial worth and never thought twice about it because I held the person as worth much more. But thanks again for assuming I am an ass.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #108 July 15, 2010 [replyAnd I always pay. I am not dating, but even when I eat with friends, I pick up the tab. I make good money and the whole issue makes me feel awkward. I bet there are lots of people willing to be your friends ... or "friends" ... If you are super-traditional and must always pay when you are out on dates, maybe ... just maybe ... I could understand; but "always paying" when you just go out with friends? That makes no sense to me ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #109 July 16, 2010 O - I can't explain it any better. I like to enjoy the company. Discussion of the bill spoils that for me. I hold people in high regard and the money is irrelevant in comparison. And if I thought they were only 'friends' like that, I wouldn't enjoy the time with them and the whole deal would be off. If it helps any, 'always' was not strictly to be taken literally. I have friends who also value good friends over money, so it is not an issue. With those friends, whoever is closest to the bill will usually grab it without discussion.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #110 July 16, 2010 QuoteNo. I try to receive gifts gracefully. What you describe would be a gift. Thanks for taking my use of the term 'always' so literally that you made me into an ass. I just hold personal relationships in much higher regard than money. Therefore, I don't let money enter the picture if I can help it. I also don't sell things to friends for similar reasoning. I've given things to people that had a great deal of financial worth and never thought twice about it because I held the person as worth much more. But thanks again for assuming I am an ass. I was only asking if there were exceptions to the word "always." Apparently there are. Good to know. Someone who didn't make those exceptions, yes, I'd think would be an ass."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,397 #111 July 16, 2010 Quote "Well, maybe. But that's not the worst part. The third time I went out with him . . ." Dammit, Bill!Don't leave us hanging like this!We're dying to hear the next chapter of the story."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cloudseeker2001 0 #112 July 16, 2010 Quote True (secondhand) story - Talked to a friend of mine a while back. "I hate men," she said. "OK, what happened?" "Well, I was seeing this guy last week and . . ." She had met this guy at the gym and he'd come over to her place. Things were sort of awkward; no fooling around, not too much mutual attraction. So he left. "Doesn't sound like that much of a problem," I said. "Well, he called me the next day and said he wanted to see me. So I said OK. He drove over and asked if I would come down to his car for a minute." She then began a story in which she walked down to his car in bare feet with only her housekeys. He drove her to his house over her protestations. They went to his place, where he did a lot of cocaine and started watching porn. She wanted nothing to do with either. "So you left then, right?" I asked. "Well, I didn't have any shoes on or my cellphone so what was I going to do?" she answered. The story then continued. He wanted to have sex with her; she refused. So he called his old girlfriend. She came over and they had sex in the bedroom. "So you left then, right? Right?" I asked. "No, haven't you been listening? No shoes. And besides by this time he was drunk too so he couldn't drive me home anyway." She stayed the night (sleeping in the same bed with him and his girlfriend) then had him drive her home the next morning. "OK, I can see where the guy hating thing came from, but you know, part of this is some poor planning on your part," I said. "Well, maybe. But that's not the worst part. The third time I went out with him . . ." She was interested, but, she could not talk herself jumping into his fun..... "Some call it heavenly in it's brilliance, others mean and rueful of the western dream" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #113 July 16, 2010 Quote Quote have been with my wife 33 years..and we haven't spoke "that much".... Dude That was funny. I've been with my wife a total of 12 years, and she has never heard a word out of my mouth. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #114 July 16, 2010 Quote Quote Quote have been with my wife 33 years..and we haven't spoke "that much".... Dude That was funny. I've been with my wife a total of 12 years, and she has never heard a word out of my mouth. Or, for the guys: Quote I've been with my wife a total of 12 years, and I have never heard a word out of her mouth. "I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #115 July 16, 2010 Quote Quote Quote Quote have been with my wife 33 years..and we haven't spoke "that much".... Dude That was funny. I've been with my wife a total of 12 years, and she has never heard a word out of my mouth. Or, for the guys: Quote I've been with my wife a total of 12 years, and I have never heard a word out of her mouth. Well, nothing that could be understood. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #116 July 16, 2010 It may not be you, Billy. I don't think my ex ever heard a word I said, either. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OlympiaStoica 0 #117 July 16, 2010 Quote O - I can't explain it any better. I like to enjoy the company. Discussion of the bill spoils that for me. I hold people in high regard and the money is irrelevant in comparison. And if I thought they were only 'friends' like that, I wouldn't enjoy the time with them and the whole deal would be off. If it helps any, 'always' was not strictly to be taken literally. I have friends who also value good friends over money, so it is not an issue. With those friends, whoever is closest to the bill will usually grab it without discussion. I wanna be your friend ... only if you can accept that I always pay my bill(s) ... O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,426 #118 July 16, 2010 >We're dying to hear the next chapter of the story. She actually did figure out after the third date that he was perhaps not the best apple in the barrel. So perhaps there is hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #119 July 16, 2010 Quote I wanna be your friend ... only if you can accept that I always pay my bill(s) ... O You already are. I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
