slotperfect 7 #1 January 21, 2005 Does antone know where I can find one of those slider keepers made of bungee and a plastic ball that goes around the reserve pin protector flap?? I found a lot of conversations about them in older threads, but no references as to where they can be bought!?!?!? I'm looking for a US online source.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 January 21, 2005 Google dude, you've got to google... http://www.nbmc.com/tarps/accessories.html That's just one of the nearly 10k hits I got googling. Here's the google link: Google results--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #3 January 21, 2005 Hey John, most people get them from the tent coverings that you can pack under. Wal-mart might have them in the camping section.______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usskydiver 0 #4 January 21, 2005 They are an RV/Camping accessory however, I suggest against it...let's talk in person...If you come out to the DZ TT sends Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #5 January 21, 2005 QuoteGoogle dude, you've got to google... I Googled "slider keeper" and "slider stow" to no avail. "Ball bungee" did not occur to me. I should have got my GED Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #6 January 21, 2005 I see the most common sizes are 9" and 6" - which one do Javelin/Odyssey users prefer?Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #7 January 21, 2005 Hey senor Tim, Just out of curiosity, do you not like the bungee slider keeper or slider keepers all together. Talk to you, Dave______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #8 January 21, 2005 I've just cut it down to what size I need, and re-tie the knot. I'd go w/ the 9" and have material leftover______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #9 January 21, 2005 Perfect. Thanks.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usskydiver 0 #10 January 21, 2005 Dave, I do not like anything that connects me to anything above the 3 ring after flying an open parachute...wrap factor...eliminate all BAD possibilities...my thoughts... PRO Swoopers (adequate separation)..get a bye on my thoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #11 January 21, 2005 A Velcro slider keeper will release w/o a difference in a cutaway. I tested it, on the ground and on a live cutaway. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usskydiver 0 #12 January 21, 2005 Derek, I do not know you, nor can I judge your "frame of reference".... due to an incomplete Profile. I doubt you know me, however, I will stand by my statement. Tim Tennant Team Paraclete Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 January 21, 2005 Derek is a senior rigger with over 3k jumps and is a complete I/E. Or was, with the ratings, since he let his ratings expire.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #14 January 21, 2005 I'm probably going with the "slocks" or "riser barbs" or "slider locks" on the risers. I found a picture of some I think will work well: http://www.paratec.de/index_start.html Of course, being me, I plan to bounce the idea off Sun Path tomorrow. I'm sure they have seen it before and will have some sage advice for me.Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usskydiver 0 #15 January 21, 2005 QuoteDerek is a senior rigger with over 3k jumps and is a complete I/E. Or was, with the ratings, since he let his ratings expire. OK Dave, However, I do not not know as his profile is incomplete and we are in a "technical" forum where a complete profile MAY influence my response... PS: I still do not advocate "attaching" myself to an open (and flying) parachute by any means... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koz2000 1 #16 January 21, 2005 John, The rigger at CSS made Steve some slider locks on his old rig. He still might have the risers from that container______________________________________________ - Does this small canopy make my balls look big? - J. Hayes - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meandean 0 #17 January 21, 2005 PS: I still do not advocate "attaching" myself to an open (and flying) parachute by any means... ---------------------------------------------------------- not even 3 rings & risers & lines? Oh my... hehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
meandean 0 #18 January 21, 2005 I bought a small container of bungees from Home Depot........N.E. region Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 0 #19 January 21, 2005 If you're going to use slider keepers on the front risers, there's a bunch of designs. about 8 years ago, I put some on my risers and have ever since. 2 and 3/4 inches of 1 inch type 4 fold it over about a 1/4 inch on one end, fold the other end up to meet it. To reinforce the catch, perform a double pass of a zig zag down the middle, and on both edges. ( three rows ) On the front of the front riser, Mark about 1/2 inch up from the confluence wrap. Place the type 4 at the mark. The 1/4 fold over should be away from the 3 rings. About an inch up take a double zig zag pass width wise. Do the same at the top end. By double zig zag pass. I mean... Sew a zig zag stitch... pick up the foot and start over from the beginning of the pattern. Here's a diagram minus the 3 Zig zag stitches. I stole this diagram and modified it slightly. I don't know who created it otherwise I'd give them credit.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #20 January 21, 2005 QuoteI'm probably going with the "slocks" or "riser barbs" or "slider locks" on the risers. I have pics with measurements of them HERE And a link to 3 more shots HERE"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #21 January 21, 2005 Quote PS: I still do not advocate "attaching" myself to an open (and flying) parachute by any means... The risk (zero, or very, very little) of a Velcro slider keeper (that isn't over-built with gobs of Velcro) not releasing versus the slider going back up the risers and causing a control or visibility problem are in favor of having a slider keeper. The Velcro simply won’t the jumper’s weight (X any “g’s” they are pulling if spinning). The way I build them is so that there is 3 ways for them to release. The Velcro holding the slider will probably release first but if it doesn’t, I attach the keeper with Velcro under the reserve flap. Since this Velcro has to shear to release, it holds better than the Velcro holding the slider. Lastly, if neither Velcro connections release, the reserve flap should open with the jumper’s weight is placed on it. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 January 21, 2005 I'd avoid the ball and bungie. It will not release in an entanglement/horseshoe. I have seen the results of 3 such hang ups, all from brakelines, or risers on deployment. Fortunately for the two jumpers they were able to clear the mal without a breakaway or further incident. The only two methods I like for a slider keepewr are the "slocks", or the velcro. I use the velcro as it works well, and I've tested it's release.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idoru99 0 #23 January 21, 2005 What about the velcro slider keepers that are on the jumpsuit rather than the rig itself, what do you guys think of those? My Kurupee suit has one, but since I currently don't have a collapsible slider haven't used it, but plan on it in the future, if it's safe that is. Thanks. Brian <><><><><><><><><><><> The greatest risk you take in life is the risk you don't take. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #24 January 21, 2005 QuoteWhat about the velcro slider keepers that are on the jumpsuit rather than the rig itself, what do you guys think of those? Only problem I have with those is I don't always wear a suit. Otherwise they work great.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #25 January 21, 2005 QuotePS: I still do not advocate "attaching" myself to an open (and flying) parachute by any means... you would have shit yourself then if you had seen this guy at the holiday boogie. He had a carabiner on his chest strap he attached his slider to. Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites