jimmytavino 16 #26 September 2, 2009 Isn't THIS an interesting turn of events.... wow... as i looked at the heading of the link DSE posted, it occurred that by adding a "u" and two more "a"s, and jumbling the letters,,, a different and slightly ironic Dot Com, can be created....oh and i double checked my newspaper to find that it was NOt the local paper, but USA Today.. which reported the traffic stop, under California. in it's daily state by state newswire reports... (one of my favorite pages of the USA Today.. paper...) i think it was Monday's issue... it would be good, if all permits, certificates, and licenses, etc ARE in place. jt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #27 September 2, 2009 funny Jimmy T! I kept reading and re-reading the website name trying to understand what type of a news site it was at first too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #28 September 2, 2009 marin county .. i guess... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 259 #29 September 2, 2009 Quote well hell I never seem to have both at the same time anyway I believe it was the Fabulous Freak Brothers who once told us something along the lines of "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #30 September 2, 2009 QuoteSounds like from the article, once arrested he started talkin' like he was ON speed...flipped faster than a 2 dollar steak. Not Avery. You'd hear about the devil buying snowblowers in Sears before that would ever happen. The subsequent article (which was not posted until after you posted) makes the sequence pretty obvious--the other arrests resulted from material the police found in his home. There's a thread on basejumper.com asking that the situation not be discussed publicly. Also, there's information for anyone who wants to make a donation to help these folks out during this difficult time.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #31 September 2, 2009 Yea..we really should keep something that has made the national news as hush-hush as possible. Somebody call the TV stations and newspapers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #32 September 2, 2009 Quote Yea..we really should keep something that has made the national news as hush-hush as possible. Somebody call the TV stations and newspapers! You should feel free to express your disdain to the person(s) who made the request.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #33 September 2, 2009 Although I wouldn't personally classify it as "disdain", I have thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #34 September 2, 2009 Quote marin county .. i guess... Wait, is that where Cheech Marin is from??? "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #35 September 2, 2009 Quote Also, there's information for anyone who wants to make a donation to help these folks out during this difficult time. Seriously?! You(or whose ever idea this is) are expecting people to pay for his mistakes?! There is no way you can make me believe that 60 pounds of pot, $800,000 and over 400 plants were all for medicinal uses. I don't think anyone is that gulliable.If on the very off chance they are really legal distributors, where can I get in on the business, sounds like the dough is rolling in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #36 September 2, 2009 Quote Quote Also, there's information for anyone who wants to make a donation to help these folks out during this difficult time. Seriously?! You(or whose ever idea this is) are expecting people to pay for his mistakes?! There is no way you can make me believe that 60 pounds of pot, $800,000 and over 400 plants were all for medicinal uses. I don't think anyone is that gulliable.If on the very off chance they are really legal distributors, where can I get in on the business, sounds like the dough is rolling in Actually, I wasn't trying to convince anyone of anything. The people who know Avery and Jerri and Harry (and possibly the others, although I can't speak to that because I don't know them myself) will have no trouble understanding why there are some of us who want very much to help in any way we can. I did not share the information from basejumper.com for the purpose of debate about the subject matter (i.e., the reason for the arrest), but only so that those who would like to be helpful to some people who have always gone out of their way to be helpful to others can do so.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #37 September 2, 2009 a few excerpts from California Bill 420 is very interesting indeed: (e) No person or designated primary caregiver in possession of a valid identification card shall be subject to arrest for possession, transportation, delivery, or cultivation of medical marijuana in an amount established pursuant to this article, unless there is reasonable cause to believe that the information contained in the card is false or falsified, the card has been obtained by means of fraud, or the person is otherwise in violation of the provisions of this article. 11362.775. Qualified patients, persons with valid identification cards, and the designated primary caregivers of qualified patients and persons with identification cards, who associate within the State of California in order collectively or cooperatively to cultivate marijuana for medical purposes, shall not solely on the basis of that fact be subject to state criminal sanctions under Section 11357, 11358, 11359, 11360, 11366, 11366.5, or 11570. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
460 0 #38 September 2, 2009 how do we know he was actually speeding. and Avery has glaucoma problems, so I understand the need to so much personal supply. -BASE 460 "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotamy."Looks like a death sandwich without the bread - Steve Deadman Morrell, BASE 174 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #39 September 2, 2009 QuoteAlso, there's information for anyone who wants to make a donation to help these folks out during this difficult time. The news report said these guys had three quarters of a million dollars in cash. Do they really need our financial help? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #40 September 2, 2009 How do you think they were going out of their way to "help others"?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #41 September 2, 2009 Quote How do you think they were going out of their way to "help others"?? Yeah, I bet there's some people hurting right now for lack of some substances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #42 September 2, 2009 QuoteQuoteAlso, there's information for anyone who wants to make a donation to help these folks out during this difficult time. The news report said these guys had three quarters of a million dollars in cash. Do they really need our financial help? The news report said the money has been confiscated, so it's of no use to them at the present time. Given the way these kinds of cases go, I would expect the money is gone for good. I do not know what other resources are available to them. I do know that Avery has spent his time on this earth paying it forward, and that's more than enough incentive for me. What others do is up to them.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #43 September 2, 2009 wow.If he truly is a medicinal grower, a decent attorney will get that cash back so long as no charges are filed. If he's not, you're ok with criminally earned money??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #44 September 2, 2009 Quote wow.If he truly is a medicinal grower, a decent attorney will get that cash back so long as no charges are filed. If he's not, you're ok with criminally earned money??? My interest in this matter has everything to do with friends in trouble and nothing to do with politics and the law. If you want to argue either subject--albeit, not with me--the discussion properly belongs in Speaker's Corner.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #45 September 2, 2009 QuoteSo if I get pulled over down there with $50,000 in cash and absolutely no durgs then they can seize the cash?!? That's f*** up. Yeah, it's also incorrect. At least in theory. There is nothing unlawful about possessing very large amounts of cash, in and of itself. And technically, the police do not get the final say on whether seized property should or should not be returned, the courts do. Either the government must file a forfeiture lawsuit against the possessor, and/or the alleged rightful owner can file an injunction lawsuit against the government seeking return of the property - but in either event, the burden is on the government to prove, by competent evidence (i.e., it is not on the possessor to dis-prove) that the cash was proceeds of unlawful activity. If the government does not meet that burden, then the courts are supposed to rule in favor of returning the seized property. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #46 September 2, 2009 then the courts are supposed to rule in favor of returning the seized property. FREE O.J. ! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeQ.Public 0 #47 September 2, 2009 That shit must really fuck people up in the head. Why in the hell would anyone in their right mind have that much cash and drugs in the same place?Very soon, an honest person will not be able to sing the last 2 lines of our National Anthem:::Practice safe dining....use condiments Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1racer696 0 #48 September 2, 2009 haha i live 15 minutes from petaluma. i go to school there. awsome oh dude DUde DUDE BRO DUDE. omg DUDE! ummmmm. i forgot.... Dudeist Skydiver #61 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krip 2 #49 September 2, 2009 Quote then the courts are supposed to rule in favor of returning the seized property. FREE O.J. ! O.J had to hire a lawyer the first time. I wonder if it will take a lawyer to convince the court to do the right thing and return the cash or the DA will do it by themselves with a apology.Thirty percent of $800k in lawyers fee's Yikes!!!!One Jump Wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #50 September 3, 2009 There are some interesting cases out there. Colorado Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
