Raistlin 0 #1 August 14, 2004 Other than the no-longer-manufactured Diablo, are there any 7-cell elliptical canopies on the market? Is there a replacement for Diablo same way Pilot now replaces Hornet? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 31 #2 August 14, 2004 To my knowledge, the PD Spectre is a 7-cell elliptical. Probably not comparable to the Diablo in performance though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 135 #3 August 14, 2004 to my knowledge the Spectre is square... The Icarus Omni is 7cell tapered/elliptical... The FX and the Xaos21 are 7cells too, but crossbraced tri-cell...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 4 #4 August 14, 2004 According to the PD web pages, the Spectre is "slightly tapered" which by all definitions is not "square". I'd call it slightly elliptical, just to qualify it as not-square, and not-very elliptical. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanofOZ 0 #5 August 14, 2004 The Spectre is a slightly elliptical main. I have one and love it. Great canopy...Oz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #6 August 14, 2004 Diablo is at the fast end of the tapered 7-cell market. Only a few customers wanted fast 7-cells. When Aerodyne re-organized, they stopped building Diablos. I have about 60 jumps on a Diablo 135. It was almost as fast/responsive as a Stiletto, but did not turf surf as far. After it spun up on opening (I cut it away and landed under an Amigo 172) I never really trusted it again. All the other manufacturers have decided to compete at the slower end of the tapered 7-cell market. Spectre, Omni, Synergy, etc. are aimed at casual weekend jumpers who buy the most canopies. Not all of them want a sporty canopy ride. Many of them enjoy the freefall and consider the main canopy to be an annoying way of getting to the next dirt dive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #7 August 14, 2004 QuoteMany of them enjoy the freefall and consider the main canopy to be an annoying way of getting to the next dirt dive. Or like me the only way to ensure I get to have the fun of freefall again - not really that annoying in the long run! tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larsrulz 0 #8 August 15, 2004 QuoteAccording to the PD web pages, the Spectre is "slightly tapered" which by all definitions is not "square". I'd call it slightly elliptical, just to qualify it as not-square, and not-very elliptical. Then call it a tapered main. There are explicit differences between elliptical (and semi-elliptical for that matter) and tapered canopies; they say two different things. I got a strong urge to fly, but I got no where to fly to. -PF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #9 August 16, 2004 Why do you stop manufacturing a canopy if it hasn't been replaced by a better design? I mean... a lot of people went to a lot of effort to create Diablo AND there hasn't been a better design developed (in the field of fast 7-cell ellipticals) - why not just continue sewing Diablos for those few who might want to buy it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 15 #10 August 16, 2004 Why continue to market a design that has a very limited interest? By the same token PD should still be selling Sabres, Excalibers and their F111 canopies. Contaqct Aerodyne directly on this, they still have the CAD templetes so its possible to still cut one for you if the interst is there.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin 0 #11 August 16, 2004 Quote Why continue to market a design that has a very limited interest? By the same token PD should still be selling Sabres, Excalibers and their F111 canopies. All the canopies you mention have been bested by more modern designs, Sabre2 and what-not. That was the essence of my question: I don't see a Diablo2 out there on the market... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #12 August 16, 2004 Heard rumors about a new hp 7cell canopy in-the-works (not from Aerodyne, not from PD). For birdpeople etcetera. These people (who, me?) still want a nice performing but docile-when-it-has-to-be canopy. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 24 #13 August 16, 2004 QuoteThen call it a tapered main. There are explicit differences between elliptical (and semi-elliptical for that matter) and tapered canopies; they say two different things. I disagree. All the variation between what companies call tapered, slightly tapered, eliptical, fully eliptical... is all marketing lingo. As far as I remember, the Diablo only had the tail tapered, but as stated, it is a very aggresive turner. Elliptical canopies are not real ellipse either. The way a caopy flies is a factor then more then just square vs. tapered.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
