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this seems far fetched, and inaccurate at best. No it's not. It's called "partial birth abortion" and it is actually legal in some states. George Tiller performed late term abortions including partial birth abortions which are both illegal in Kansas yet Tiller repeatedly thumbed his nose at the law. Do you know what a partial birth abortion is? It's an abortion that occurs at the time the babies head is crowning by sucking out the babies brains literally ten seconds before the baby's first free breath. You can call that a "fetus" if you like, that is your freedom under the First Ammendment. You might want to do some studying about who George Tiller was and how he with the help of DA Nola Foulston and Governer Kathleen Sebielius skirted the laws of the state of Kansas. George Tiller performed an abortion on a nine year old girl once without notifying the state of Kansas as required by law. This nine year old girl was raped by her father. There was no investigation by law enforcement since Tiller never bothered to notify law enforcement about this child rape. It behooves me to think that anyone in their right mind could condone this type of behavior. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

http://www.kansas.com/news/breaking/story/833730.html George Tiller shot to death at Wichita church BY STAN FINGER The Wichita Eagle WICHITA - George Tiller, the Wichita doctor who became a national lightning rod in the debate over abortion, was shot to death this morning as he walked into church services. Tiller, 67, was shot just after 10 a.m. at Reformation Lutheran Church at 7601 E. 13th, where he was a member of the congregation. Witnesses and a police source confirmed Tiller was the victim. No information has been released about whether a suspect is in custody. Homicide detectives and Sedgwick County District Attorney Nola Foulston have arrived at the church. Members of the congregation who were inside the sanctuary at the time of the shooting were being kept inside the church by police, and those arriving were being ushered into the parking lot. Witnesses are being transported downtown for interviews and other members of the congregation are slowly being released from inside the sanctuary. Tiller has long been a focal point of protest by abortion opponents because his clinic, Women's Health Care Services at 5701 E. Kellogg, is one of the few in the country where late-term abortions are performed. Protesters blockaded Tiller's clinic during Operation Rescue's "Summer of Mercy" protests during the summer of 1991, and Tiller was shot by Rachelle Shannon at his clinic in 1993. Tiller was wounded in both arms, and Shannon remains in prison for the shooting. Tiller's clinic was severely vandalized earlier this month. According to the Associated Press, his lawyer said wires to security cameras and outdoor lights were cut and that the vandals also cut through the roof and plugged the buildings' downspouts. Rain poured through the roof and caused thousands of dollars of damage in the clinic. Tiller reportedly asked the FBI to investigate the incident. Sgt. Bart Brunscheen of the Wichita Police Department said there has been no activitiy today at Tiller's clinic, although security crews were being brought in to make sure the building was secure. Officials also were going to check the clinic's security cameras to see if there was any activity over night. Tiller and his clinic have faced continuous threats and lawsuits. A Wichita jury ruled in March that he was not guilty of illegal abortion on 19 criminal charges he faced for allegedly violating a state law requiring an "independent" second physician's concurring opinion before performing later term abortions. Immediately following the ruling in this criminal case, the Kansas State Board of Healing Arts made public a similar complaint against Tiller that was originally filed in December 2008. Tiller's medical license could eventually be suspended or revoked by the board on the basis of the complaint. Check Kansas.com for updates. Contributing: Joe Rodriguez, Tim Potter and Marcia Werts or The Eagle. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

That is why you always check before you do any sit down action. Or you could use your underwear to wipe with, then toss the underwear in the trash on the way out. Whatever works, ya know? How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Air Evac has three helos and two King Airs that sit on Sky Harbor Airport just West of Swift Aviation. Swift Aviation fuels them, you could call them to get a contact number to Air Evac. You could also try a company called NetJets. They are also fueled by Swift Aviation. They are a lease company, but they might bend the rules for you. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Last I heard of him he was trying to get on to the Board of Directors at USPA. How did that go, or was that just rumor? How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I knew a guy at the place I used to work who was a fake pilot. He'd always talk about the Piper Cub he used to own back in the fifties, but he claimed he "let his pilot's license expire" "flew back in the days when you didn't need a pilot's license" and learned from the "National stunt champion of '57, '58 and '59." Needless to say I didn't believe a word of it but played along with him so that way he was the fool. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I started jumping in 1977 and have been to several boogies and I have yet to witness anyone's death. (knocking on wood) Worst thing I saw was someone at the World Skydiving Convention (the first one with the Roger Nelson 727) swoop into the side of a van. He moved the van about a foot and coughed up a little blood, but he was allright after some observation at a local hospital. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Being the pilot or JM should have called off the jump is beside the point now. A copule of things to remember if you get stuck under canopy for awhile, like in a cross-country dive: If your legs feel like they're going to sleep, try tucking your legs up and repositioning your leg straps. Just don't mess with the snaps! :) How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Actually I believe .02 is legally intoxicated for a pilot so it has to be under that. That's one freaking beer by the way. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I don't think that is entirely acurate. And it's very deceptive. He doesn't explain why the death occured and whether the pot was a contributing factor. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Have you ever been to a boogie? Boogie?? Hell, I remember the days that after it got dark at the end of the jump day, all of us "Skygods" would climb into a van and park at the end of the runway for a "safety meeting!" How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

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If a pilot is flying for free in order to build hours for a higher rating, even though the pilot is not being paid, this is considered "compensation". I believe that is specifically mentioned in the FAR's. And by "members" of the club, that might be seen as USPA members. And that may go back to the "flying for free" deal. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Ah, so this would seem to cut out students and tandems (and observers) and the pilot has to pay for a lift ticket each load he flies. Well that sucks! How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

The difference is the private pilot had just dropped a load of jumpers when the suicide jumper went out the door. Nice try of evading the facts at hand though. As for your quetion of whether a pilot needs a commercial to take a guy for a photo flight: Is the guy paying the operating costs of the airplane aka tach time? If so, yes he needs a commercial. A private pilot can share the operating costs of a flight with his passenger, but the FAA has defined "sharing" as each paying one-half the costs. A pilot can no longer pay a penny. The silly part is that you are attempting to eliminate the skydivers to justify your argument. You are also sarcastically treating this thread as a new thread when in fact (and you know it) it is a continuation of a thread that has been ordered to be moved by the mod. Now please cut the sarcasm and debate logically. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I have never heard of the "private club" clause. Please cite the FAR that pertains to this "private club" theory. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

My point was merely that it is very difficult to comply with the letter of every regulation, especially with regard to maintenance (note that both of my examples involved maintenance). I think there is a fundamental difference between "trivial" violations, like failing to make the proper logbook entry for swapping out a burned out landing light and "serious" violations, like exercising privileges you don't hold the certificate for, regardless of whether you can do it safely. Drawing that line is sometimes hard, and I don't know that most people in this sport have the background (or inclination) to make a safe determination. That is what the FSDO is nominally for, right? To serve as an arbiter of the rules and to protect the ignorant from the malicious? How about drawing the line at "willful" vs. "inavertant" I think this is where most judges and juries draw the line. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Aside from 91.3(b)? I will point out that some FARs are busted pretty frequently (written logs of GPS navigational database updates... properly placarding deferred maintenance...). Skydiving operations tend to play fast and loose with the rules, perhaps in keeping with its historical perception as a "lunatic fringe" sport. After all -- how many skydivers have punched an IMC layer in freefall? don't fasten their seatbelt before taxiing? jumped with a reserve that's a day out of date? It's bogus, but there is a culture of tolerance -- and there you go.... Well you know, banks are robbed pretty frequently, cars are stolen every day, about every seven seconds someone is murdered here in the USA, Parachutist has a special section on "stolen gear," Roger Nelson financed the ferry fee on a 727 from South Africa to the World Skydiving Convention by dealing some powder, but hey, I had a lot of fun jumping out of that bird! So maybe he shouldn't have gone to prison since a lot of people had a lot of fun. But you know, he did break the law, but where exactly do you draw the line? How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

That is correct, however if Robert Rawlins would have been abiding by FAR's he would have either not flown the guy to altitude, in which case it would have been some other bozo in the hot seat, or he would have a commercial certificate and it would have been the difference of not being able to prevent the tragedy or being able to have prevented the tragedy at least with him in the seat. This he will have to live with for the rest of his life. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

It's a violation of FAR's. Anyone want to explain to me why it's OK to violate FAR's? How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

Never to be forgotten. Tonto rode my motorcycle, a 1985 Yamaha V-Max 1200 cc rocket. He had such a smile on his face as he zoomed past our cars! Blue Skies, Eric! How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I knew Eric well when he jumped at Skydive ElDorado in Kansas. I was a jump pilot and I remember him joking about driving a borrowed car and getting pulled over by the police and handing the cop a South African driver's license. The cop didn't know what to do with it so he finally let him off with a warning. Blue skies, Eric. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I made my first jump there in October of 1977. I bet we could share some old time names. Danny Sutton, Steve Lezner, Rick Richards, Bob "Lucky" Wheaton just to name a few I've lost track of. Dale's kid Spike was 11 years old then. He was killed in a car wreck. Chuck Powell hadn't made his first jump yet but I was fortunate enought to see his first jump. It, like, wasn't supposed ot happen but did. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

You see, because of people like you, the price for me will probably go up to $12.00. The proper thing to do in that case is to pay for the meal, then don't go there again. For ten bucks you could go to a Flying J Truck Stop and get an all-U-can eat meal that is great. How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!

I don't know where else this belongs, but just wondering if everyone knew it's not a good idea to take off in an ultralight with 33 seconds of fuel onboard. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1182780694 How high are we going? Oh about 9000. Oh Mr. Pilot! How high are we going? Oh about 12000! That's the ticket!