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I think his new proper legal name is "The Wingsuiter Formerly Known as Purple"~ Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Wow.. ok, lets go there... It is a term that I came up with, (putting many theories together to be albe to better interpret/describe to others), because it makes the most sense. Lets think of an airplane. on a multi engine aircraft, thrust is applied by the "Engines" at known points on the airframe. the ARM is its distance from datum or location on the airframe, in which all weight/balance calculations are made from. Weight x Arm = Moment. Since a Wingsuiter, Unless your Yves or Skyjester~ doesn't have what most would consider an "engine", we use our bodies (and the shape we make it) as a "Gravity Engine" or a lifting body like the space shuttle; you must also realize that we apply different forces on the airstream due to our body position. lets call the point of lowest pressure, i.e. highest airflow, on all three wings (arms&leg) the "moment of thrust", because airflow is centered aound that point. Think of our bodies and tailwing, as the body of the lifting body. This point would be at the highest point of the wing surface on the trailing edge, as viewed from behind. Also realize that this point is highly variable, since we translate our weight, size, surface area into forward movement. we change this by narrowing our legs or "cupping" our arms, creating more of a "Channel" that we are moving air through. Thrust = Max deflection & acceleration of the airstream encountered. Now to the Tbird. This suit takes the induced drag, that the oustide third of the armwing would induce in all other large wing suits, and reduces it greatly. there is a lift loss, because i think that outside third acts more like a basic fowler flap on an airplane, but its small. it lengthens the distance air must travel thus increasing airflow over the wing, resulting in higher lift produced. however the lift component in unpowered wingsuits is so small, that it simply reduces performance in many aspects, but not all. by taking the drag component out with a smaller outside armwing, it actually increases efficiency, of the armwing as well as increases the size and efficiency of the lifting body. And if your a fat guy like me, more lifting body = a very good thing, cause that's something i got a lot of. :P Simply put, in my opinion, this suit increases the size and efficiency of the "Lifting Body" Part of the wingsuit which provides the largest thrust & lift components, while maximizing the useful lift and control surfaces of the armwings, and reducing their drag. Matt~ My experience in aviation and flying for the better part of a quarter century has lead me to understand many of the things i do. Now alot of it is useless trivial info. but some of it isn't. This isn't something you can learn is school. This isnt something NASA would have any interest in experimenting with in order to help us make better wingsuits. I wouldnt go saying get your money back or anything, but there are many chapters in aviation that havent been written yet; Hence there's been no need for the terminology. not many variable geometry aircraft that moves where its thrust comes from. This is one of those unwritten chapters. I hope this answers any questions you may have had~ and if it created more, well then ask away~ :P Oh and I LOVE the other definitions that have been come up with... Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

I just felt the need to say Firechicken! go for the Phantom if you cant get ahold of a Tbird.... But try flyin the Tbird if you can get ahold of one... itsa nice!! Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

I believe it was just over 2 mins... i was very happy that I was able to pull at the end of the jump.... :P I definitely don't recommend attempting to beat that record, hell i didnt want it.. lol is no fun out there man~ Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Hey guys and gals, im sure youve seen this already, but Jeff's been busy getting us out there~ were hitting the mainstream market yet again, our Shuttle Jump video is now featured on Cnn.com's website~ check it out, and post away~ http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-234954 Scotty Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Did you take your "Student" up on his FFC yet down there? Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Sounds like fun with a tailgate at Zhills this weekend, anyone else going to be around for it?? Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

40 seconds? Thats not so bad on the side of the otter~ :P looks like it wouldve been great to be there! Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Hmmmm... I remember the originals from this jump.... these look better! nice job~ Feris~ wheres your next event? Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

well Skittles, I will say, you do look better in the air than you did the first time i met you laying on the concrete at SDC, so you do have a good point.. man i wish i had a copy of the skittles pic to post.... :P Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Hey all the pictures and video should be up on my site~ I had another crash last week, and im trying to re upload everything over the next couple days, but the pics and video should be up~ you can see the video there, or vimeo.com/sky2 vimeo.com/wingsuit youtube.com/watch?v=yw4TdyVmwT0 enyoy! Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

I will Be there With Bells on~ Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

its my gravity engine actually... very high HP. When i farted the dyno broke so I i cant give you the actual performance numbers~ On another note, the arm wings arent really small, they actually move the moment of thrust inboard, while reducing the drag which is induced by the trailing edge of the armwing, due to moving the attachment point from the outboard of the armwing to about the midpoint, so when you max the suit it induces less drag than other suits. if that didnt make any sense, think about it.. lol mornin all.. Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Heres another angle on your new Tbird Spot, colors arent perfect, but youd get an idea~ Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

this is a photo of the secondary inflation device if you find yourself flying too slowly~ anyone have any gusses where this is going? Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

In my opinion, The Pilot from Aerodyne is your best choice. 99 out of 100 of my jumps are in a wingsuit, and probably 98 of those are with all my cameras on. Its performance and the fact my head didnt detach itself even once over the last few years says alot. I would relate it to a corvette. Wonderful opening characteristics, great performance, and you can swoop the snot out of it when you want to. all around, the best thing you can fly in a wingsuit. Theres a few really good reasons I have one~ ive got a 117 that I load around 2.0ish... love it! Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

its bad assed~ the last one is kinda dark, sorry but the sun had set and the flash didnt fire, but you can still check it out~ Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

But Wait~ theres more!! Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

this is how much andrea wanted this suit.... willing to go the extra mile for it~ and in the case of one jump we all had to~ :P Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

I suppose that's why there is a smiley face after that comment. Except for the diff colors, diff brand, diff canopy, diff size, diff everything, they're similar, I suppose. I did. It's equally bullsh** to send a mass email about an incident that you know nothing about, have incorrect facts for, and making inappropriate comments about those one "thinks" are involved, but not have the balls to admit that "oops, I made a mistake, this person wasn't involved after all..." In fact, I'd call that "cowardly." Furthermore, the facts are VERY available both here on Dropzone and on other websites. Jump numbers, name, etc all available. There is no defense for making light of the fatality, period. I was there as a witness to it, and nothing about it was funny. As far as an appeal to not do it anymore...it sounds like "I'm guilty of this as recent as last week, but I won't do it anymore, even though others in my organization have said they can take someone just off A-license status and teach them to wingsuit...." Sorry, that don't wash. I disagree the thread should be modded, unless it's split off to its own thread. There are "names" in the WX community that have made some significant mistakes; people have been injured and in three cases, killed recently. How those mistakes happened, how they could be avoided, why it's important to avoid them, why the rules are what they are, how we can better the sport, make the discipline more safe.... it's a VERY important discussion. One that has to happen as this discipline moves forward. +100000 I cannot agree more. This is possibly the largest issue with our community. We have grown to a size and interest level that had never been anticipated. This topic is of the utmost importance, becuase the only way we can move forward is TOGETHER. in order to do that, all the closets need to be cleaned out in order for that to happen. this will not be pleasant for some, if not all involved. Those whom have covertly spread misinformation and stated non-truths to perpetuate their own selves, while selling good people down the river~ your time has come to come clean. We cannot as a community tolerate these kind of actions from those whom we should have respect for, there is no I in team. it is only for the good of the community, and or sport that this should be done. There is no I in team... TO BE CONTINUED SOON Blue Skies Scotty Burns BTW~ there will be a minimum experience requirement of 500 wingsuit jumps to be a part of this discussion. Everyones opnion is valued, however we ask that it be in the correct forum, and this discussion isnt it. its about perspective. Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

No you did not. And everyone present at the boogie will confirm that (two who read the previous posts already commented on MSN, confirming what I said, and if you want Ill gladly get most people present at the boogie to chime in on the subject here?) I attended every single debrief, and outside of a lauging 'look at these two guys doing a cool gainer exit' on the middle of a complete group of poised exits, you didnt comment on a single one in a negative way. Mark, Duncan, I and quite a few others made some suggestions during the debriefs (I think most people remember those) on the gainer exits (and not doing them!) but at the time, you didnt see it as a problem and kept saying 'this is how we do it back home all the time' as validation for doing so. This is all stuff that happened in front of every single flyer present at the debriefs. Your debriefs (at An72) tended to only focus on the positions people were flying (slot-wise) and did not really go into negative aspects of peoples flying at a more direct and personal level. And seem to have issues with accepting input from others. Much as my comments over skype, email before and at the boogie past year, to both you and Rolf and letting people with sub-200 jumps on the plane, doing wingsuit jumps in front/after bigways. Going against everything the two of you are supposed to advocate as BMC-I's. How can you publicly state that number as a manditory jumpnumber, yet be completely okay with people not sticking to that and jumping out, potentialy endangering the whole group in front or after them? Even if a coach is present, what will you do if that low-experience flying dives into a group/flies the wrong way or worse? We can offer some hints, signals and examples in the sky, but during the jump we are mostly glorified observers. I know you see yourself as the main source of knowledge on the subject, and fully second that you do know a lot. But it doesnt hurt to also admit/realise other people have inputs and improvements on your methods and knowledge as well, and what we know/do/advocate can improve/change/be updated over time. And that there is NOTHING wrong with admitting to being human, and actually learning new things and changing your actions due to that over time..Ill gladly share every single fuckup Ive ever made, every bad dicission in organsing (mine and others) if it means people learn from it. Hiding it, and acting like it never happened doesnt teach anyone a single thing. Comparing the bigway organising at An72 the past years, to the stuff the FlockU guys did in Elsinore. Its freefly zoo dives vs RW bigway standards in terms organising. They made a great push for dicipline/stricter flying, and actually cutting people out of those bigger groups as well. Something which hasnt happened in any of the stuff at An72 in your big groups. Regardless of who dove through a formation at 200 mph or took an entire bigway into the clouds. Though we had fun at the time, I think the accident two years ago at An72 also showed and made people realise those times are over...again..just watch the videos... I know over time I have changed a lot of things in organising and FFCs I teach, based on what Ive seen other people do (be it in person or on videos). Its an ever evolving process, and one we should all pay attention to and wokr on together...teaching, sharing and learning.. +1 Mccordia is NOT wrong... and thats all I have to say at this moment, For I dont want to be in the pissing contest, but for those of you that think he is, jump more and talk to us that do. Blues~ Gainer exits are alot of fun.... heres an obligatory pic to show~ :P Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Just a preview of whats to be posted in the next couple days... my site just crashed AGAIN a couple days ago and ive got to get it back up and running~ Great event so far everyone!! you should be here! Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Hey crew dogs~ We had a great expierence with some of your bretheren down in Puerto Rico this year, Planned for two years and finally done... Hope yall enjoy! Scotty Burns vimeo.com/sky2 photos on my site~ Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography

Once again great job By everyone down in PR! It was a blast and we hope you enjoy the video! Thanks to all who contributed to such a great event! you can see this video as well as last years on the Sky2 channel on vimeo, hope yall enjoy! Scotty & the Sky2 Team~ vimeo.com/sky2 Z Flock #11; Muff #1909; PFI #15, USPA Lifer Commercial Multi-Inst. Airplane/Rotory www.flyteskool.ws Aerial Photography