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Amen brother! Everytime "the gov" kneejerks it causes them more work. Now I have to go and get some red flags so the wife can drive to the grocery.

Clicky This has been done before. The rescue guys worked their asses of to get him down. The final answer to the "get him down" dilema came from the boss of "the hanger", not the Fire Department. For mainstream rescue workers this does NOT fit into standard rescue practice.

And dumb to boot.

Congrats man! Keep it up.

Jason, I know it is pretty clear with the four different ways you put the time but Eastern Time Zone is minus five hours(-5:00) from GMT. Just a look.

Neanderthal Perspective Service Nonsensical Pretentiousness Society This is really not nice. These guys already didn't have what it takes for real law enforcement and now they have this working against them bringing back all those memories of getting beat up by people that would eventually turn into BASE jumpers or anyone not happy with a mundane life of walking around looking at trees and telling campers that "Only you can prevent moronicy"..I mean forest fires.

Nice Nick. Sometimes I think the Army could "F-up" a wet Tshirt contest. Anyway if they love the brown rounds so much they need to keep tabs on them. I say write the book. It would be one more huge loogie we get to clear from our throats.

Loin cloth made form ranger round hats not tied down well so that it reveals your pink thong underneath.

Thanks to everyone's generous donations we have the cash needed to buy the memorial page. If you donated to this thanks and you should know that it means a lot that you came to the aid of such a nice way of showing your/our respects and memories of such an awesome guy. Tom A, thanks for sticking the thread for a little and Nick, thanks for updating "The List". Keep up the good work. Thanks again.....M Jeff, we miss you brother and hope you are getting the ultimate gainer with your brothers in the sky. Fly free.

Got a buddy rollin' through town and wanted to know if there will be someone to show some exit points for him as it's been a while. Thanks.....M

That's cool Mischo,

I have an edited version waiting for permission to delete the old one.

Rich is kicking ass bro with his new wife. He came for the memorial and services also. I don't think you were the reason so many wanted to get in that shower.

Thanks bro.

Right on brother.I hear that from everyone and think it myself sometimes. There is a small video of some of our antics in the valley on skydiving movies memorial. It is called JT2_DivX.

Last week there was a great memorial and funeral for all the folks that perished in that crash and surrounding fighting. That memorial was one of the greatest I have been to. Jeff left a lot of people behind as well as the others. Jeff loved to BASE and everyone around him knew it. He stayed with me when I got hurt and he did things like that a lot for everyone he knew. Later on bro.....M

Fly free brother, I miss you already.

That stinks dude. Is she part of a union? I know the United Steel guys get a predetermined cash settlement for certain appendage losses.

A band? Wow, That is pretty close to a helo and fighter pilot.

Hang in there Nick, we're thinking of you.

Yes. Figures that some crazy Brit wrote it.Plus I don't think stiffs will be writting anything. Sometimes it isn't too difficult to figure out why people do certain things. The problem is that no one cares until it's a problem, like PTSD(all forms of trauma). Also Amazon has all kinds of literature on it. I have a plethora of psychology books, written by someone that cares more than I do, sitting all over the house from my wife. I use them to prop the old dvd player on one side when it starts rattling.

Definitely get the insurance. Got it, used it.

Leave it I say. Sangiro has a hard enough time policing us tools while you are sleeping. Due to the time offset that is.

I agree that there might be a couple courses of action that people can take after something bad happens and I know that talking about the what ifs can be hard enough to talk about that sometimes the talks don't happen. I would have to bow to more experience in this but will say that self preservation is the true showing of a person's future intentions. More than likely there will be people who will bail on demand. That's too bad but it will show you who to jump with. I don't possess the care to find two jammers and two guys who are gonna stick around to make sure I'm cool.

"I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy" That's what I'm getting at. This is, in one form or another, in every creed that matters. I knew a few of the Mog guys.