timmyfitz

Airplanes still have collisions in the pattern, no matter what rules the FAA has established. At least there is a plan. Right now there are no rules, just an informal agreement that changes with the wind! I guess you missed my point.

Airplanes still have collisions in the pattern, no matter what rules the FAA has established.

And, apparently, nothing at all to the GOP www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1981 to 1988 is 7 years-Kallend (oops, it's actually 8 years Kallend) The decade of the 80's was from 1980 to 1989. 10 years. If you remove 1980 and 1989 you have 1981 to 1988. 8 years.

Nope. Really? Lucky...- Belgian_Draft-(reply to Lucky...) Lucky...-(replying to Belgian_draft Just using your words. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1981 to 1988 is 7 years-Kallend (oops, it's actually 8 years Kallend) The decade of the 80's was from 1980 to 1989. 10 years. If you remove 1980 and 1989 you have 1981 to 1988. 8 years.

Along those same line....... I heard a tandem master I knew many years ago, just before he was about to hook up to his male student. TM-Have you ever been in prison? Student-No. TM-well, a lot of this is going to be new for you then.

So you were like many newbies that don't listen in the beginning. But with time, many realized they don't know everything and start to listen to advice. Sounds like you were one of "those guys".

Gov sources, BEA, BLS, IRS, Etc. Wikipedia is objective and I have never found it to be errant, but that isn't a bad source either. And the Onion. Don't forget the Onion. You used in one of your rants once and called it "real and legit" and a "right wing rag" Lucky, how do you feel about the reporting on MSNBC? I asked, in passing if it was legit, but go ahead and keep misquoting I quoted what you said. You called it "real and legit" and referred to it as an RW rag. I will look up the old thread if you would like?

Gov sources, BEA, BLS, IRS, Etc. Wikipedia is objective and I have never found it to be errant, but that isn't a bad source either. And the Onion. Don't forget the Onion. You used in one of your rants once and called it "real and legit" and a "right wing rag" Lucky, how do you feel about the reporting on MSNBC?

3) those that have jumped a few years, never had a malfunction/reserve ride and have left the sport.

Really? Telling someone that if they don't want to get hurt, skydiving might not be for them is coming down hard? Should we wait until they watch someone else get hurt or die, or maybe until they get hurt? Either one is much harsher, I'd think. If you skydive long enough, you are going to get hurt. Could be a sprained ankle or femur from a botched landing, could be a concussion from a bad exit, could just be scrapes and bruises. It could be your fault, could be someone else's fault, could be nobody's fault. If your "real life" is such that you absolutely can not get hurt (career, family, whatever), you might want to postpone skydiving until such time as your life can allow for a few weeks spent on crutches. That's not coming down hard, that's talking about reality. Yes, but you'd have to be a moron not to recognize that you may get hurt. He, and everyone else who skydives, is well aware of that fact. What exactly are you teaching or trying to get across by pointing out the obvious? If he weren't aware, he wouldn't have asked. Might want to give your ego a one-over and figure out where you're coming from. These threads are meant to help people out when they ask for advice -- not to tell them to find another hobby just because you didn't like their question. Yep.

LOL. Unfortunately not often true no matter how much you would like it to be true. There is a simple explanation that has already been mentioned in this thread. K.I.S.S.

Yous got MaDz Skills man.

Remember, the R's in the Civil War era were the progressives, now they are the regressives, so the big two have flipped. It's no surprise that the R's want to limit/revoke the 14th today. Other than the fact that it was the R's that overwhelmingly voted for it, while the Dem's filibustered against it, you mean? Some nice conservative Americans in this picture. The ones being hung, right?

What a hackneyed, cliched, bigoted statement. And funny too. Don't forget funny.

How do you define "assault" rifle? Here is one definition I have read. "An assault rifle is defined as a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine." Selective fire means it can be switch between automatic and semi automatic. You are not going to find any automatic weapons for sale at the local gun store. Automatic weapons are highly regulated. There are very stiff fines and jail time if caught with one illegally. If you consider a rifle to be an assault rifle because it fires a much more powerful cartridge than a hunting rifle, you would be mistaken. An AR-15(semi auto version of an M-16 and considered an assualt rifle ) fires a .223 cartridge/bullet. There are several hunting specific rifles that shoot more powerful rounds. You can also find rifles specific for hunting that are semi automatic, have a detachable magazine and are more powerful than an AR-15. If you consider a rifle to be an "assault rifle" because of how it looks (it looks scary ) that is just silly. How a rifle looks has very little to do with how it performs.

Excellent side step. You have been asking people to not attack the messenger but to focus on the content of the article. When someone does just that to show you the flaw in your argument, you just side step. Excellent!

Thanks for giving me the same answer that has already been posted.

To late.

Maybe THIS will help you. Nice try but he was not using a metaphor. Unfortunately he did believe the island would tip over. His handlers had some good spin the next day but they can't erase the video. I guess another possibility is that he thought he could use this as an alarmist warning (and hope someone was stupid enough to believe it) to unjustly create fear to get support for his position. But democrats don't use fear to push their agenda, do they? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9R-cQ_A_6w

He certainly is not all there. With a total of a little more than 717,000 votes cast he only got about 3,500.

Republicans. You mean republicans may have voted for a republican candidate? You.....are......brilliant. It doesn't take brilliance to know that a presidential administration starting in 1981 and ending in 1989 is an 8 year term and not a 9 year term. It must take brilliance to understand that republicans vote for republican candidates since it seemed to surprise you. You forgot to include this part. I'm sure all the brilliant democrats voted for him.

I never said it was. I simply listed a bunch of realistic expenses in my first post so someone could build a budget to see if they could afford it... Technically a rig is not required either, but it is a realistic expensem thus on the budget. But, I could say, coaching of some sort is a requirement to pass the course, and tunnel time is often the most effective and cost saving method, thus that is why I included it. There are other coaching methods that could replace it.... Very few people would pass an AFF course without some sort of disciplined coaching at 360 jumps and 2 years in the sport. If they had maybe 700 jumps they would possibly have better belly skills, but that would have cost money too... Or maybe add some training budget to travel to boogies or events where they could get world class organizers to help them for "free". Required??? At 360 jumps they would almost definitely need some coaching to get a rating. It could be paying for a coach to coach their RW team and hiring outside video for the training jumps, or finding a mentor who has the skillset to train, who is willing to do many training jumps with them for free. If you take off the money I budgeted for the tunnel time, you would have to replace it with some sort of other training, ranging from a pre course offered by the AFF evaluators to bigway camps to paying for video on larger group RW jumps or something... Unless of course the candidate had "mad skilz" and somehow learned how to do all the requirements of AFF while doing solo jumps or jumping with their friends who likely are not AFF instructors... Since the person asking the question presumably has no jumps since they asked "from scratch" - there is no way to know if they will need or not need advanced coaching, thus it would be smart to budget it. Likewise, there is no promise that they will make friends, at their DZ, with people willing to coach for free, so the budget item should be put in "just in case". So I stand firm in my opinion about my realistic budget I posted... Some sort of coaching should be budgeted by someone looking to get their AFFI as soon as possible from scratch, especially if they are only budgeting 360 jumps like I calculated. No need for the long rant. I got the answer I was looking for. The answer is it's not a requirement. Just wondering why you included it in your list, as though it was required, of actual requirements.

Well, bicycles are a slippery slope. I mean, next thing you know... um... er... where exactly is he going with this? I wonder why Mike and Turtle and Marc and Timmy aren't chiming in to support their guy. I'm sure they can tell us where he is going with this. He is just another wacko politician. They are on both sides. I don't support extremist wackos no matter what their affiliation (prove me wrong if you can). He is an extremist wackos on the right side just like there are extremist wackos on the left side. I'm surprised your brilliant(biased?) mind hasn't figured this out yet.

Republicans. You mean republicans may have voted for a republican candidate? You.....are......brilliant. It's probably also true that democrats voted for this guy.

Short answer... Because there is a difference between being an AFFI and a good AFFI. Long answer... It is not a requirement. But I think it is a real good idea. Most people I know who have gotten their ratings in the last few years have spent time in the tunnel practicing roll overs, spin stops, delivering handsignals while still on harness hold, etc, in addition to RW training for 4way or just 2 way informal RW. Likewise, most AFF instructors at our DZ, being that the tunnel is only 1 hour away, are expected by their students to be able to coach in the tunnel too - and for a full time AFF instructor, this can be a key source of revenue. Without tunnel time the individual can't be a good coach in the tunnel. If someone is getting their rating at 360 jumps, the bare minimum of 6 hours of freefall time, they likely don't have the skillset to fly AFF without tunnel time unless they did 4way or some other disciplined RW training approach, because probably 100 or so of those jumps were belly jumps, 50 wingsuit, 50 tracking, and 150 freefly... So the answer is it's not a requirement. Thanks.