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I'm not going to bother reading this thread; I just want to know if the unnecessary preposition in the subject line bothers anyone else as much as it bothers me. Seriously, every time I look at Speakers Corner, I think I die a little because of it. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

I'm not normally one to get excited about TV, unless it's CNN breaking news--I find most TV to be total and utter crap--But CBS's Jericho, a TV series about a small town enduring the aftermath of a nationwide nuclear attack by terrorists, was just too promising for me to pass up. After finally committing to a TV show for the first time in a LONG time, I was more than a little disappointed when CBS canceled it after its first season. And now I'm more than a little thrilled that fan support has convinced the network to bring it back as a mid-season replacement next spring. So, if you're not quite sure what I'm babbling about, THIS article will explain. And if you've never watched an episode of Jericho, you can CLICK HERE to watch every episode from the first season (Scroll down--The last episode is at the top, and the first episode is at the bottom). I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

I take it none of you saw the debate last night? This was covered pretty extensively, and the general consensus was that they all believe God created the earth, but none of them are one hundred percent sure how or when he did it. The "Do you believe in evolution?" question is just a way of playing "gotcha" politics. You can't simply ask, "Do you believe in evolution?" because that's an unfairly broad question. Almost everyone acknowledges some form of evolution, be it microevolution or macroevolution, so in order to be fair, candidates should be asked to explain WHAT they believe, rather than being asked to answer a yes or no question. NOTE: I'm not a Republican; I'm just an American fed-up with "gotcha" politics. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

My dad and I drove by there last week and debated stopping, but I'd heard about the outrageous price on CNN, and he figured out from the map that we'd be doing a lot of driving on a dirt road, and in the end we just decided to keep on trucking. It sounds like we made the right decision. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Not anymore than people get tired of rolling a big, black ball at a bunch of white pins or whacking a small white ball, with a stick, toward a hole in the ground. Most sports are about accuracy, to one degree or another. A lot of whuffos think jumping out of a plane over and over would get boring eventually, but I'm sure some people here would disagree. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Well, the area where I live isn't terribly remote, but I was driving through that same remote stretch of Arizona earlier this week, and I was certainly glad the current laws allowed me to have a gun in my car. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

So who is it? I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Thongs are hot, but there's some sort of erotic innocence about the classic bikini cut. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Yeah, I anticipated as much. I wish they'd at least give us a two-hour series finale. Next year in its time slot, we can all look forward to a reality show about kids trying to run a town. Unless the kids' town has to defend against a mortar attack from a neighboring town, I think I'll pass. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

It's an embarassing waste of time to explain things to some people. Point taken. One should argue with the ignorant but never with the stupid or the insane. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

You did??? Where? Saying that there have been studies is not citing them. I cited the locations of the tests; that's a citation. If I link to a YouTube video of the tests, will that convince you they actually happened? We all know how hard it is for you to believe anything you can't verify via the Internet. Here's a wild idea: If you really want to discuss the dangers of nuclear war and the history of American civil defense, why don't you do a little research (beyond typing in keywords on Wikipedia) so that you can offer an educated opinion on the subject? I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

It's hard to respond to an intelligent rebuttal like that. It was as intelligent as suggesting 'duck and cover' is a viable way to save kids in a nuclear war. So I guess we're even. Well, I cited actual tests and studies which suggest "duck and cover" is useful, and you responded with, "Yeah, whatever," so I'm pretty sure that actually puts me a few points ahead. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

It's hard to respond to an intelligent rebuttal like that. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Well put. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Oh horseshit!!!! (old fart rant here) Back in the 50s in elementary school, we were subject to atomic bomb attack drills, some in which we were actually told that enemy bombers were already enroute to vaporize us. All the school staff acted like we were all about to die and the only chance we had was to "duck and cover". Yep, there was the expected "crying for mommy" stuff but it did make us aware of what could happen and what, if anything, we could do to protect ourselvs. Guess what, we all lived over it. Yeah - it sounds like these new drill are about as effecting as 'duck and cover'. Actually, despite becoming fodder for comedians in the last twenty years, "Duck and Cover" is a good technique based on extensive research. Most people who make fun of it are completely ignorant of its intent and the research behind it. OK, I'll bite.... Just how does duck and cover help you stop from being vaporized? I can understand that it might help protect you from flying glass/debris, but if you are anywhere near the explosion, duck and cover will not do shit. Everything I have ever read and seen on the subject says that it was bullshit perpetrated by the government to make people feel less helpless, and promote the 'Red Scare' of the times. If you have links to research that shows that duck and cover works in a thermonuclear attack, send them. Otherwise I'm calling bullshit on this one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_and_cover#Assessment Though this might be a tough concept for someone in the Internet age to grasp, not having a link to a Wikipedia article or a YouTube video doesn't necessarily discredit a person's position. The vaporizing effect of a nuclear weapon has a radius that ranges from only a few hundred yards to only a few miles, depending on its yield. Beyond that, the two immediate dangers are flash burns and damage from the resulting overpressure. The severity of the thermal effect (flash burns) is determined by the amount of haze--moisture or pollution--in the air and is limited by line-of-sight, meaning people shielded by solid objects (i.e., standing behind a building) won't be burned by the initial flash. People caught in the overpressure zones experience two surges of what basically amount to hurricane force winds. Do you know what preparedness experts still tell people to do if they're caught on an open road during a tornado? They tell them to get out of their cars, lie flat in the bar ditch, and cover their heads. "Duck and cover" protects your vital areas from flying and falling debris and makes you less likely--due to a more aerodynamic body position--to be tossed about by the high winds. "Duck and cover" was based on studies of who did and didn't survive the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was found that some people very close to ground zero were lucky enough to survive, simply because of where they were standing. It was also determined that many, many people were killed by falling and flying debris, rather than the massive fireball, thermal effect, radiation, or any of the other dangers usually associated with a nuclear blast. The government also did studies on blasts conducted in the Nevada desert and the Bikini Islands. They placed furnished houses, cars, electric and gas utility stations, mannequins, and even live farm animals inside the blast zones and studied the effect to determine what might improve a person's chances of surviving a nuclear blast. In one test they even stationed U.S. troops in trenches within the overpressure radius. These studies were done by the same generation of scientists who split the atom and sent men into space with less computing power than you'll find in a scientific calculator. These scientists weren't idiots, and they didn't make idiotic recommendations. I don't believe the government ever claimed "Duck and Cover" would save EVERYBODY from a nuclear attack, and I don't believe they ever claimed it would save people at ground zero, but the scientific evidence does suggest that it would save people, if widely utilized. If you want to mock our government for its ineptness, I suggest you start somewhere other than "Duck and Cover." In fact, I'd suggest you start with the fact that the U.S. government completely abandoned its conventional civil preparedness/defense program in the 1970's. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Take your whiney crap someplace else--Your little rant has nothing to do with the topic at hand. And if it's "on film," why didn't you post a link to a clip of GWB "visibly confused and frustrated" and making numerous attempts to wave at Stevie Wonder? I find it hard to believe that if a video like that exists, it isn't on the Internet somewhere. As the saying in skydiving goes, "If it isn't on video, it didn't happen." NOTE: I think GWB is an incompetent president; however, it annoys me to no end when someone tries to interject this type of trite drivel into a serious political discussion. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Why Dallas of course. Home to Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby and other assorted nutcases including the Dallas Independent School District Superintendent in the mid 50s. Anyway, we came out of it without any PTSD or anything like that, no lawsuits were filed and as far as I remember, most all our parents thought it was a great idea. A strange decade the 50s Like every threat, the Cold War had its share of fanatics who thought the best way to prepare was extremist fear mongering. I don't think we should aim to repeat the same patterns with future generations. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Oh horseshit!!!! (old fart rant here) Back in the 50s in elementary school, we were subject to atomic bomb attack drills, some in which we were actually told that enemy bombers were already enroute to vaporize us. All the school staff acted like we were all about to die and the only chance we had was to "duck and cover". Yep, there was the expected "crying for mommy" stuff but it did make us aware of what could happen and what, if anything, we could do to protect ourselvs. Guess what, we all lived over it. Yeah - it sounds like these new drill are about as effecting as 'duck and cover'. Actually, despite becoming fodder for comedians in the last twenty years, "Duck and Cover" is a good technique based on extensive research. Most people who make fun of it are completely ignorant of its intent and the research behind it. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

That's pretty fucked up. The thing about Alex Jones is that he actually brings to light some interesting issues, if you can wade through the conspiracy theorist muck with which he surounds his reports. The young generation is more than happy to "defy authority" when it comes to rules about smoking, drinking, trespassing, etc., but how many will stand up to authority when it really matters? I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

I've been following this story on CNN and waiting for it to show up in SC. This has to be one of the most egregious lapses of judgment in the history of elementary education. I've made some bad judgment calls and pulled a few stupid pranks in my life, so I keep thinking that if I try hard enough I might be able to get into the mindset of a teacher or a group of teachers who think a staged school/camp shooting would make for a good joke, but I'm at a complete loss. Could these teachers really not see that this was crossing a line and going beyond a friendly "campfire prank?" This is the equivalent of shouting "fire" in a crowded theater. And not only did they cause an undue panic by playing on the very real fears of a bunch of twelve-year-old kids, they've created a potential "Boy Who Cried Wolf" scenario. Now there's a chance that not only the victims of this prank but other kids who hear about it might react to a warning about a real school/camp shooting by saying, "I'm not going to fall for that." I'm usually the first person to come to the defense of someone who finds himself or herself the target of a public outcry--I think most public outcries are born out of over-hyped triflings. But I strongly believe these teachers should be fired. According to the students, these teachers said, "We have a code red,"--apparently that school district's code for an armed intruder--and shouted, "This is not a drill!" I wonder how those same teachers and administrators would have reacted to a student who created a panic with a bogus threat. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

I once bought a case of little parachute men and did a mass air drop, while on a cross-country jump. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Source: PRNewswire Now let's work on overturning 922r. I'm tired of trying to count the number of American made parts vs. foreign made parts in my rifles. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

[sarcasm] How dare you try to detract from this budding skydiver's love for this sport and attempt to squelch his personal expression! [/sarcasm] I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Bill, how can you conclude that the presence (or lack) of a gun in the officer's possession was the leading factor in whether or not he got shot? Did the shooter admit to this? 2 people in blue shirts and 1 person in red shirt all make a skydive. Person in red shirt goes in. Conclusion = red shirts create higher risk? I realize the example I gave is absurd and you do have some logical reasons to believe that the cop who carried the gun "attracted" more hostile fire. But I don't believe, even with regard to that one incident, you can say for sure that the risk was associated entirely with that one variable. Maybe the cop carrying the gun had some other characteristic that drew the shooter's attention to him. This is one of the points I was trying to make in my post--Quit making this ridiculous argument as if the entire case for gun rights hinged on it. Admitting that the assailant very likely chose his target based on the fact that that officer was armed and the others weren't does not automatically destroy your credibility as a gun rights advocate. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.

Not really, I'm saying that claiming a member of an armed response team was placed at additional risk because he carried a gun doesn't make much sense. It's what he does, sending unarmed men into such situations would not present much of an alternative to beat cops. ...to put it another way sending an unarmed response team to specialize in confronting armed men would be a greater risk. I agree. I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names.