Monkeyb

haha right on, hopefully one day I'll be a fog too :)

Sorry to hear that. Sounds like he had quite the run skydiving though. At least he didn't fall victim to the sport, which is good I suppose, and enjoyed it til the end. Thx for the feedback man. Oh and JohnRich, thanks for the post, that's pretty much what I wantd to hear

Zep, I noticed your signature and couldn't help but notice the Catalan. You live in Barcelona eh? Cool, I'm Catalan myself, born and raised in Barcelona. Living in L.A. now but hopefully I'll be able to move back in the next year or two, haven't been to Spain in about 10 years, since I was 12 :) Thanks for the feedback, it is very much appreciated. Say, where do you jump, Empuria? p.s. visca al barça!

After a recent incident that cost the life of two frequent jumpers at my DZ, I'm feeling a bit uneasy about this. I'd read of incidents before, but none really bothered me like this last one. I'm now wondering if it's worth going long-term in this sport... years and years and years of jumping probably means I'll experience several close calls. I've had one reserve ride thus far and don't particularly look forward to the next one. Obviously the more you jump the more you're exposed to the risks in this sport. I understand that we can die any day, and you can die on jump number 1 just as you can die on jump 9,999... but obviously the more you jump the greater the chance of something bad happening. Do most lifelong skydivers come out ok? I'm still debating whether this is worth the long-term risks :\

Yea, getting invited to jump when you have a low jump number is the shit!!! It makes you feel like you're a part of the crew, and your jump is so freakin exciting and fun. My friend and I have been doing 2-ways together for the last 50 jumps and whenever someone asks to jump with us, or invites us along, it makes our day :)

You should post it for us to laugh at, cause the lawyer can't do jack over this :)

Good point, crying about slander on an internet forum is pretty dumb. She's not a celebrity and I would guess that 90% of the people here don't even know her, so having a lawyer get involved in this is pretty stupid. Someone is bitter, that much is certain.

lol, that was the best post in the entire thread. great scorekeeping vercetti.

Although this isn't the forum for it, I agree. I think the pilot is going to have a hard enough time dealing with this. Pilots do the best they can to protect and look out for us up in the sky, I trust the pilot at my DZ, and I know he has everyones best interests in mind. I would not hold him accountable for an accident like this.

That's impossible. 24hrs * 60 minutes = 1440 minutes, leaving you with 2.8 minutes per jump. You can't freefall from 12k and be back up in that timespan, even if you have a packed rig with an f16 on standby waiting for you on the ground.

we need a freerigs.com :P

hehe, it made me chuckle, so yes it does

this thread does not deliver

Is it normal if my pants fit funny after reading this entire thread?

Buy it and sell it back to him for the same price. It's a nice thing to do for the guy. He shouldn't have to pay such a high price and lose his rig because he smokes pot, that's bs.

My god that is ridiculous. Holy shit I can't believe he survived. That's some incredibly risky shit to do though, damn daredevils :P

looollll...

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Thx guys. I just want to add a final note: These days I don't really feel the same adrenaline kick while skydiving. It was just the first 10 or so jumps that were really intense... now I have myself under control so it's no longer the same as it was. Although I don't have the same adrenaline kick anymore, I do have alot more fun than I used to :) I was just arguing for first-timers, because I remember how intense those jumps were. After a while we all get accustomed to the jumping, but you guys are right. Even for first timers adrenaline kicks vary from one activity to another.

Yea... you guys are right. I didn't even realize how deep I got sucked into this stupid debate. Way to shove it in my face. I hadn't thought those points bigway. I assumed skydiving was the biggest first-time thrill because it was the only one that came to mind. Everything my friend had pointed out required some kind of training and skill development to do, so I didn't think of those particular activities. Well, I thought I was right. Now you guys made some good points and I see I'm not. I'll let the argument go. Thanks for the posts, at least now I won't look like an ass by bringing it up again.

I don't want this to be a pissing contest. I couldn't care less if he enjoys other sports more, and I'm not trying to take anything away from other activities. I need to prove my original statement right. Not because I want him to jump, but because I'm right, and after him acting like such a d*ck about it I don't want to "just forget about it". I mean the word adrenaline is almost synonymous to skydiving. The two go hand in hand. Any time someone mentions skydiving, adrenaline rush is the first thing people think about. This suggest something doesn't it?

Perhaps not so much on my first tandem, but on my next jump (AFF I) I had so much adrenaline in me that my hands were really shaking and I couldn't write in my logbook when I got back down. It was very frightening to jump with my own parachute for the first time.

Interesting. Yes I actually purchased Adrenaline Rush, but it doesn't really prove any of my points. All I want to point to him, is that for a first timer, a skydive is going to provide a bigger rush than ANYTHING else. A first-timer can't do crazy hops off a dirtbike, or race a formula one car, or ride a steep ski slope. It seems like all other activities require training and a build up of skill for you to reach extremes where the adrenaline really kicks in. In a skydive, a first-timer can just go tandem and feel a serious adrenaline rush he probably won't get ever again in his life. A study that logs the vitals of people in various activities would be great for my argument. I googled up and couldn't find anything, but I'll keep looking. Thanks :)

I tried to keep this post as short as possible, but it ended up being longer than I expected. If you guys read it and throw in your two cents I would really appreciate it Last night my friend and I were slightly drunk, and we got into an argument that really heated me and him both. Originally, out of the blue, he asked me how much it would cost to go skydiving, so I told him $100. I offered to cover the rest of his jump. I really wanted him to go jump, so $100 would be fine. Then he decides $100 is too much money and backs out of it. I'm like whatever. A while back I had offered him a free jump and he had still backed down because he didn't feel like going. He said that he goes to jiu-jitsu and that costs him $100 a month, and if he liked skydiving it would cost too much to get licensed and he would have to give up jiu-jitsu. I explain that it's really worth trying even if it's just a one time thing, because the rush and thrill of skydiving is unlike anything down here. I tell him that there's nothing down here for either of us that compares to a skydive. He then gets mad and says I have no basis to say that because it's just my opinion. He says I can't say that because I've never been in a jiu-jitsu competition, I've never been white water rafting, and I've never surfed, and that those people probably feel as much adrenaline if not more than skydivers. I explain that I've never done any of those activities, so I don't know what they're like, but the average person can't just get up and surf a big wave, or hop into a jiu-jitsu competition, or do anything that would bring a serious adrenaline rush. Now keep in mind he's never even been to a jiu-jitsu competition, and the only waves he's ever attempted to surf are beginner waves, but he's stil blabbing like an authority on the subject. I state that for the average person a skydive will present the biggest adrenaline rush he/she could ever experience. Now, I imagine in order to feel a rush equal to a skydive while snowboarding, surfing, or any of those activities, one would have to take them to extreme levels, and a first-timer would not be able to surf a big wave or skii the serious slope required to feel that kind of adrenaline rush, but an average person CAN get up and do a tandem skydive and experience the rush for all it's worth. Again I tell him that the biggest adrenaline rush accessible to the average person is a skydive, because the other activities require lots of training and practice to reach extreme levels, and that the average person won't go through all of that. This argument goes in circles for about an hour and a half (I can't believe it actually lasted this long). He ends up really mad and never really gave in to the topic even though my logic made perfect sense. He thought I was demeaning his jiu-jitsu, and suggesting it wasn't fun or rewaring, which I wasn't, as I was talking strictly about adrenaline. This particular friend always mocks skydiving and claims it's an easy thing that anyone can do and supposedly isn't a challenge. According to him he would only skydive if he could jump on his own without instructors and so on. He says he can swandive and keep his stability fine during the dive, and that skydiving is no different and is overrated. So I realize he's a tool, but because he irritates me and constantly downplays skydiving (and never accepts my generous offers to jump) I'm not going to drop this argument. Today that he's sober, I'm going to bring it up again, and I want him to acknowledge I'm right. I wonder if there's some kind of study that shows adrenaline levels reached in different activities, or perhaps someone can provide a more solid argument than mine?

I will be sure to ask an instructor. I hope they let me :(