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Short by 3 Buildings but working on them 175 jumps off 60 objects. ian

Indeed it was Si and Pierre. Simon still jumps from time to time although he recently broke his ankle off that very same site, he took me under his wing for a while when i first got back off my FJC. Pierre on the other hand quit BASE altogether. One too many strikes me thinks. I'm just ribbing you about the day blazing. Tom, you've got me baffled though about "generous publicans in central London". I'm very intrigued. That sounds like something right up my street....figuratively and literally. PM perhaps??? ian p.s. stop kidding yourself. You're WAY old.

Tom B has been here. There's a shot of Si doing a go 'n' throw off the lower level of our popular pylon on beyond extreme. In broad daylight no less. These old timers have no respect........

Congrats dick head. I snagged that lampost so that YOU didn't have to, buddy. That's 2 objects for every year you've been alive then. ian

LUKE.....is that you Montgomery Burns?? Forecast looks way bad for thursday???

Quotean object that is forgiving as far as forward speed goes (span, overhanging antenna or antenna with massive tailwind), you might be able to pursuade me into killing myself.reply] Span. You want a UK span???.....he he he....ho ho ho......wha haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaa....hhhhhhaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa (uncontrollable Dr Evil type laughter). Well We certainly have something which ticks most of those boxes down here in London, so let us know. I take it Ivan's got you pushing his Wheelchair on Thursday then. ian

James. Has he been in touch with you? Have you taken him out jumping? What's the score, we've got stuff lined up for the boy. I do hope he's going to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. ian

Spot on. You hit it. Fearless. That's the biggest stereotype. Basejumpers are fearless.

That's what we do isn't it? Endless poetry and philosophy aside, doesn't it all just boil down to jumping off shit with a chute, or am I missing something here.

that's the stereotype, but it's about right isn't it? Maybe not a bullseye but pretty close to centre.

you asked, so you go first....

No, but I've choreographed a modern dance routine which expresses the same raw emotion if you'd like to see that.

Jaap Tried to hunt you down to go jumping tonight but you seem to have gone to ground. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of jumpers looking to hook you up with a jump so leave some contact details. As big John McCarthy would say in the Octagon... "let's get it on" ian

Hi 736 I agree. My comment was based on coco's description of threading the crab through the bridle. Not my idea of a good idea. The crab on the end of the anchor point, i can see more point to - IF you have the luxury of going back up and removing it after you jump - which you seem to have. Like i said, i would personally always choose the system with the least amount of components necessary. Fewer things to overlook or forget or do wrong. That's just me, I'm fallible and I approach my jumps assuming if it's fuck-up-able then I'm the man to do it. Coco. The rope vs bridle works, it just doesn't lend itself to changing the plan if you need to, unless you're happy doing a complete reconfig on the exit point - which actually you should be. Remember, on some jumps where the landing area is tight and at the foot of the object, having more altitude and canopy time doesn't often help you. You have to burn off that altitude. On these occasions what might at first have looked like a s/l jump could soon morph into a freefall jump. I like to keep all my options open and using the bridle achieves this. This isn't hypothetical. On Friday just gone , me and Dan the Man were on a 200ft B. It could have been ff or s/l. The ff option meant a low opening and possible brawl with trees and lamposts, the s/l option meant a potential overshoot of the landing area onto railway lines if you didn't get on it quickly and start sinking the canopy. In the end Dan chose to s/l from 180ft off a different side of the building into a landing area we had never even considered until we saw it from the roof. I chose to climb down and not jump. A decision I think was probably wise (for me). Have a plan but be prepared to change it.

Generally my static line setup is similar to hemphogs with the exception that i don't use a rope, i use my bridle. Why?? Because I often haven't decided on whether i'm going to freefall or static line the object until i'm at the exit point. If i look over the edge and don't like what i see i'll change the plan and opt to s/l. No special setup, just pull the pilot chute out, larkshead a loop in the bridle and get my bootlace on the case. I find it best to be adaptable on the exit point. If there's a bit of wind about, i tend to not use a loop further down the bridle as this allows for the pilot chute to blow about and billow around. In this case i tie directly through the bridle loop right at the attachment point with the pilot chute. This keeps the pilot chute very close to the tie off point but controls it to a degree. Finally I always use a tailgate bungee to stow all the excess bridle between my rig and the tie off. Having 9feet of bridle blowing around your legs can be very offputting to say the least. I also prefer velcro rigs on static line jumps. ian

Coco Just to be absolutely clear, the setup you post will of course work. The carabiner in the system will work. The rapide link will work. The pertinent question is, are they necessary. The unequivicable answer is NO, they are not. How do I know? Because thousands upon thousands of s/l jumps have been performed without them. The more you complicate the system, the more things there are to keep an eye on. We're all fallible, we all have stress at the exit point. The fewer things there are to fuck up when in this stressful situation the better. Will a carabiner/rapide fail.... Almost certainly not. But if they're not in the system they certainly can not. One further thing. A rapide link (more so than a crab) will act on the breakcord as a sharp edge due to it's smaller diameter. This could cause a breakage prior to full canopy extraction and line stretch. The wind issue on a building. I'm wasn't trying to be funny or cranky. The wind strength really is the bigger issue in my opinion. Anything above a light light wind from any direction is probably bad news. At the very least you're chipping away at the percentages in your favour ian

A Carabiner on a s/l jump?? Totally unnecessary and just another thing to a/ be thinking about and b/ fuck up. Keep it simple. You do not need to use a carabiner at the bridle attachment and it potentially can a/fail b/snag c/affect the pilot chute inflating properly should it be required in the event of a premature loading, d/ cause damage to the object . The benefits are???? prevents wear and tear??? With regards to winds, if you have to ask, then you're not ready to be jumping a building in my opinion - not in the near future even. You ask about direction but not about strength, so any answers you get are meaningless. A headwind on a building???? of 1mph......could be okay, 12mph.....same answer???? A crosswind on a building....how likely is it going to affect your heading performance.....2mph????......15mph????? A tailwind on a building....jumping into the wind shadow....okay, but you might have to fly out of it to make the landing. What happens when you get hit by the wind as it wraps around the B and catches you on the other side??? Take it easy Coco. Put the building to the back burner for now, learn your craft THEN close the word. That's my friendly advice.

so it seems. yawn. I'll leave you comedians to it. Heard any good rape jokes recently, titter titter.

Sorry, what did i say that was indicative of my humour you fail to understand. I'll re-read my post to find the joke, but i'm pretty sure I never attempted to be funny. I did point out that the cat thing wasn't funny, in the same way the head thing wouldn't be funny. That fall back to "why are you so hostile" is obtuse. Q "why are you so argumentative?" A "i'm not argumentative" Reply "see you're doing it now". Come on. That was a weak reply and you know it. What was being discussed here is to many people reading these threads utterly moronic and does NOTHING at all beneficial for BASE jumpers. It makes us all look like a bunch of yahoos who have no respect. And it directly links to our activity which is BASE. You may very well understand the context and think it's funny, but i don't, and so it's safe to say neither did a lot of people reading this. What next, some really humourous racist jokes or a few well placed paedophile gags. Believe me with enough effort i could justify a context in which to tell them. Wake up people. This is a public forum. What's posted here is ammunition to our detractors and justification for further limitations placed on us. It's amazing how many out there got all worked up about a rail jump cos of the negative effects it might have on the public perception of BASE jumpers yet seem to feel the subject under discussion here will be found universally funny. It won't and it will do nothing but harm.

Ahhh, the sage that is Rhondalea Well wise one, you got me. I feel soooo humbled now. What with the context explained and you setting me straight on what does and doesn't constitute funny. Thanks for that. Oh, just one last point you could maybe explain using excessive quotes and philosophical references. The cat thing....it makes me feel ill. There is no possible humour to be found in it. And i'm not alone in that assessment so don't try to paint me to be some kind of pariah. oh yeah...two other things: Firstly, I quite catagorically stated "equally as funny would be....". As I have stated, I don't find the cat thing funny, ergo, neither is the analogy . Secondly, that particular method of execution of troops i mentioned is done for a specific reason. It's done using the same methods for slaughtering animals - in accordance with halal. In otherwords, the killers are saying and no doubt believe, this living thing is of no more value to me than an animal. I would have thought that within the CONTEXT of this discussion you might have spotted the parallels on how we value life (or not as it seems). Anyone can quote a poet, philosopher or respected thinker at the end of their post in an attempt to gain credibility. It doesn't necessarily make your point any more valid though. Have you ever read Burning in water drowning in flames by Charles Bukowski; the next time I break an egg I'll think of you scramble with a fork and turn up the flame

Moronic. Utterly moronic. Joke or not, this thread just makes a lot of you look like a bunch of mindless 'american pie' high school jocks, all desperately trying to outdo each other in the 'i'm so radical and crazy, look at me' stakes. 813 at least has the balls to stand up and speak his mind, knowing that doing so was going to leave him vulnerable to accusations of being a kill joy, cos no one likes to be told they're not funny. Equally as funny would be a "how much of a mess do you think the freshly severed head of a US Marine would make if dropped by an Iraqi insurgent from the top of a Baghdad building using a 42" pilot chute" But pleeeasse, don't get indignant. It's just a joke.

pussy!

I just heard Clair is a few weeks away from joining the US Marines. Good luck with the training and take care if they station you out in the gulf. Let's jump together when you get back. ian

And while you're stood there, pilot chute in hand on the edge of that sub150ft B, just remember that the real danger is in your mind. Oh i always find it useful to click your hanwag heels together and say the line "there's no place like home, no place like home, no place like home." ian

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