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Paul, based on your ramblings here you and all of the rest of us would be on a watch list.... Cute. But I've never made a threat to anyone's life either in front of them or behind their back. Maybe I've missed it, but do we know that he made an actual threat to anyone's life during his counseling?

I hope it doesn't have much of a turn-out. It's a childish reaction to the ignorant and/or bigoted reaction that was "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day." If you don't like who Chick-fil-A donates money to or what they have to say, then don't spend your money there, and feel free to speak out about it. But don't go there just to antagonize them; it makes you look like an ass and does nothing to help your cause.

Exact? I don't think so. I wasn't particularly satisfied with his stated position on same-sex marriage in the last election, but the McCain/Palin ticket was hardly a better option for that issue.

Thank God I didn't buy any chicken from him! But I guess I can now. Nah, Obama will be happy as long as you keep drinking the kool-aid. Haven't drank kool-aid in years, so I guess he's not happy. So what got you to finally stop drinking the kool-aid? Too sugary. But, regarding the metaphorical kool-aid, I don't think I've ever blindly followed anything or anyone. And there aren't nearly as many viable presidential candidates to choose from as there are choices of places to eat. So the Obama/Chick-fil-A comparison doesn't work all that well.

Thank God I didn't buy any chicken from him! But I guess I can now. Nah, Obama will be happy as long as you keep drinking the kool-aid. Haven't drank kool-aid in years, so I guess he's not happy.

Thank God I didn't buy any chicken from him! But I guess I can now.

In my town, there were hundreds of people waiting in line for hours at Chick-fil-A today. Quotes in the news about being there to support free speech. My guess is that most of them didn't make it past Huckabee's facebook page in researching the subject. Of course, this town was plastered with "Yes on 8!" posters a few years ago, so I doubt that "free speech" was really the reason that most of them were there anyway.

No one was trying to prevent free speech. But many of the people who stood in line for fast food chicken today thought they were doing so to protect free speech. A little research will show that the LGBT community is more concerned with the company's actions (donating money to anti-gay groups). I think most people feel that the dude can say whatever he wants, and consumers can take their business wherever they want. Reverend Wright opposses gay marriage. Does that mean Obama contributes to an organization that hates gays? Opposing gay marriage does not necessarily mean that one hates gays. But if Obama is contributing money to Wright's organization, and if Wright is fighting against gay rights, then I would say that Obama is contributing to an anti-gay organization. (I don't actually know whether Obama is contributing to Wright or not; is he?)

No one was trying to prevent free speech. But many of the people who stood in line for fast food chicken today thought they were doing so to protect free speech. A little research will show that the LGBT community is more concerned with the company's actions (donating money to anti-gay groups). I think most people feel that the dude can say whatever he wants, and consumers can take their business wherever they want.

Reading the various stories on this today, it seems the majority of people who are going to "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" have no freakin' clue why the LGBT community is boycotting the company. Sheep come to mind . . .

Some info from GLAAD (plus a link where you can donate the price of a Chick-fil-A meal to them ;) : There were links within this quote, which I didn't copy, but they are on the original page: http://www.glaad.org/releases/glaad-releases-facts-and-resources-media-covering-chick-fil-a

While many are going there to "support free speech," I think the boycott has less to do with speech and more to do with the company's actions. The company has (allegedly) donated millions of dollars to anti-gay groups, so it seems logical enough that some people might not want to spend their money there. (I say "allegedly" because I have not checked into this myself - just what I've read. I eat at Chick-fil-A so rarely that my money isn't really supporting their charity anyway.)

So what you're saying is that many of those Republicans who rated themselves as mentally healthy, they're actually psychopathic sociopaths? You would really like to believe that, wouldn't you? Well, no.... I think I'd prefer to have fewer sociopaths around. And I agree, an individual's perception of mental health (and happiness) is quite subjective, so these polls don't really mean a whole lot. Personally, I don't rate my happiness or any other emotions on a scale relative to other people.

Gain what? A bunch of weight from eating too much Chick-fil-A?

So what you're saying is that many of those Republicans who rated themselves as mentally healthy, they're actually psychopathic sociopaths?

Good for you. I'm sure that poor, oppressed Chick-fil-A dude appreciates your business. I wonder how many other fast-food chains will join in when they realize what great advertising this has turned out to be. I mean, they'll probably lose a few customers, but they'll probably gain even more who flock to eat fast food to show support for free speech, traditional marriage, and the love of God.

Starting a thread about how much happier you are than other people: Not exactly a sign of spiritual enlightenment.

I support the rights of free speech too. Say whatever you want, but if it causes you to lose business, then that's your own problem. I support same-sex marriage and am not likely to do business with a company that makes a point to fight against gay rights. But I respect that he feels strongly enough about his sense of values that he will speak openly despite the negative impact it may have on his business. (I doubt it will have a negative impact anyway.)

I only skimmed through it, but I got the impression that the only "costs" of alcohol that the author was comparing the benefits to, were the various disease states caused by alcohol abuse. I don't think he was considering the health costs of alcohol in its entirety (alcohol-related accidents, violence, etc.) Not certain, but that was my impression. I'd have a hard time believing that - all things considered - the benefits of alcohol outweigh the costs. But still I'm not for banning it either. Though I suspect my chances of getting killed by a drunk driver are significantly higher than my chances of getting killed by a psycho with a gun.

Where are you getting this? The article you linked shows a majority of people thinking race relations are about the same, and a minority of people thinking race relations have gotten worse.

That sucks, but at least they were able to go to a nearby church to get married. If they were a same-sex couple, they wouldn't have been able to get married anywhere in their state. I'm curious to know how these two people voted on their state's constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. If they voted for it (and being Southern Baptists, it's likely that they did), I wonder if this experience has caused them to reflect on the issue.

and made him an 18 year old douchebag..... Perhaps. Though, with only allegations to go on, I don't think I'll label him a douchebag without more facts.

It's not "playing doctor" if it's not mutual. There are many cases of kids being sexually abused by other (usually older and bigger) kids. And, while the abuser may not have the understanding of right and wrong that an adult should have, it can still be just as traumatic for the victim. I don't know if that was the case here, but I wouldn't ignore the accusation just because of the age. Plus, if her story is true, the last incident with him was when she was 16, which probably would have made him an 18-year-old adult.

I agree. So blame the prosecution. But I can't see any reason to call this witness ugly names. she is also taking this opportunity to poison the process, with both the molestation and racism charges. The question is - why now? Is this a long running hurt, is it petty vindictiveness over some minor spat, or is it opportunism? The racism charge in particular calls for substantiation or silence. In her own words, she came forward because she was concerned that George might have shot the kid because he was black. I'm not sure why she also chose to tell investigators about the molestation. Though, if it is true, there are many sexual abuse victims who never tell anyone, or at least never press charges. Perhaps this gave her a reason to come forward. She did say this was the first time she felt safe from him. (Look how many silent victims came out of the woodwork in the Sandusky case. It's possible that they were all just attention whores looking for the right opportunity. Or it could be that they just didn't know what to do about it before.) And as far as "substantiation or silence," is she supposed to have a recording of him making a racist remark? I mean, yeah, that would be a lot more believable than simple sworn testimony about what someone said. I think she's allowed to make those claims, but it's up to a judge or jury to decide if it's believable or relevant. And so far, it looks like there is more substantial evidence to show that he is not racist. Anyhow, if it turns out that she made up everything, then call her whatever you want. But I think you're jumping the gun with assumptions here.

Here's a recent article that mentions it (and from this article, it sounds like there may only two witnesses who claim that he is racist): http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-07-14/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-profiling-20120714_1_trayvon-martin-neighborhood-watch-volunteer-george-zimmerman And here's an article with more info. I'm not familiar with the site, but it's old news, so it's no longer in the headlines: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/05/18/co-worker-zimmerman-bullied-me-with-racist-taunts/ It's probably available in all of the documents that were released, if you can find a link to one of those sites. (Sorry, I don't have time to search for it right now.)