mark135 0 #1 June 30, 2003 does anyone have the line specs fo a batwing 116? I need to know the factory specs for each line. Precision will not give them out._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andy2 0 #2 June 30, 2003 they won't give them out because they want you to send it in to them only if it needs relining, etc? Or they won't give it out as in they arn't servicing batwings? Im confused. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayhawkJumper 0 #3 June 30, 2003 That strange that they won't give out the line lengths. How are you supposed to know if your canopy is out of trim if you can't measure the lines? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #4 July 1, 2003 It doesnt really matter why. I guess they want my wife to send it in. we arent going to do that and incur all the costs when it can handled very easily by our rigger. Her rigger called and they wont give them out. She needs 4 lines replaced due to excessive wear from the french links (getting slinks now) the rigger wants to re-trim the canopy for her but needs the specs._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rigging65 0 #5 July 1, 2003 QuoteIt doesnt really matter why. I kind of does matter "why". The folks at Precision have always been excellent about working with people when it comes to technical specs. If they don't want to give you the numbers, there is probably a reason why...you might want to call them yourself and find out "why". My guess might be that if you need to change out 4 lines because of "excessive wear" and "re-trim" the rest of them, your line set is probably in need of replacement, not just maintenance. That might be why they don't want to give you the specs. Give them a call, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to explain themselves to you! "...and once you had tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been, and there you long to return..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #6 July 1, 2003 Call Precision, ask for Chris. He should help you out.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #7 July 1, 2003 Batwing 116 Line specs... A1: 275 A2: 277 A3,4,5: 276 B1: 281 B2: 284 B3,4,5: 280 C1: 297 C2: 294 C3,4,5: 293 D3,4,5:312 Chris sure we'll share any information you ask for... (are you SURE your rigger asked for it?) When we sell a lineset , we will install the lineset at no charge, then also include free inspection that almost always include repairing a broken stitch here or there, also for no additional charge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #8 July 2, 2003 Thank you very much! _______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #9 July 2, 2003 QuoteBatwing 116 Line specs... sure we'll share any information you ask for... (are you SURE your rigger asked for it?) When we sell a lineset , we will install the lineset at no charge, then also include free inspection that almost always include repairing a broken stitch here or there, also for no additional charge. I have to agree. I sent a Batwing in to have a new line set installed and they did a bunch of other little things at no charge. They had it back to me quickly. I know some people grumble about precision with the reserve issues that came up a year or so ago but I have had nothing but good service from Precision. Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #10 July 3, 2003 QuoteThey had it back to me quickly. I know some people grumble about precision with the reserve issues that came up a year or so ago but I have had nothing but good service from Precision I'm not grumbling. thats why I didnt want to go down the "why precision wouldnt give him the specs" road I don't care why, I just need a problem solved. and my problem is that my wife is difficult to live with if she doesn't have her "baby" in her container. Actually I found out what he (rigger) needs is wether that measurment is from the inside or outside or somthing like that. He is calling precision again._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 562 #11 July 3, 2003 [ My guess might be that if you need to change out 4 lines because of "excessive wear" and "re-trim" the rest of them, your line set is probably in need of replacement, not just maintenance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By the time you have replaced four lines, you have spent almost as much money as a new line set would cost and you are a long way from perfect trim. That is why I rarely repair more than two lines per canopy. Beyond that I recommend replacing all the lines. Chris, thanks for posting the specs on-line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #12 July 4, 2003 Anything we can do to help... let us know. Sometimes it is tough to keep up with phones, emails, recdot and this forum. but try all methods of communication... getting it solved and correctly is most important to us too... as much as it is to you too. By the way... at Precision we always number our lines from the endcell in... i.e. A1 is the line attached at the stabilizer side , the larger numbers work toward the inside... (A5 is center cell of a 9 (or 27) cell. We truely prefer to do maintenance at the plant... for 2 reasons. 1. (most important!) By maintaining canopies that are in the field, under real life use, wear and tear, abuse and neglect, we get a better understanding of what happens outside our microscopic, very controlled enviroment. We have learned more about canopies from everyone out there. Please consider using our facilities for repairs, relines, and any other inspection needed. We have an inside interest. Let us put that to your advantage. We build the finest canopies, both in design and workmanship... Let us help you jumping the best in the best shape. 2. Your repairs are additional revenue. We like that. More revenue helps us continue to improve our/your products. Anyone, feel free to contact me directly for assistance at any time through any medium... (phone, e-mail, these forums, instant messaging, etc.). By the way, your riggers out there, (Like Rob Warner and Ryan Gifford, among others), go outa their way to stay abreast with respect to specs, methods, etc. I talk to these guys and others like them daily. If you have a rigger that seems uninformed, politely move on to someone that can handle your maintenance. Chris Precision Aerodynamics 423-949-4688 423-949-5174 fax [email protected] xaosrocks AOL IM xaosrocks msn messenger xaosrocks yahoo im thing home phone: i don't think so... dz: 931-455-4574 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
