Ron 7 #26 December 24, 2015 DougHBe careful, you may have the USPA move from a medical requirement that just trips up candidates with DUI's and people with drug convictions, to background checks, piss tests, credit checks, and psych evals. The USPA is going to do whatever UPT tells them to do anyway. If UPT wants it, the BOD will do it."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
douwanto 22 #27 December 24, 2015 your comments are interesting in that I know a Current UPT TI who was waivered by UPT to used a DOT medical and USPA refused to waiver him. Uncle/GrandPapa Whit Unico Rodriguez # 245 Muff Brother # 2421 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #28 December 24, 2015 DougHBe careful, you may have the USPA move from a medical requirement that just trips up candidates with DUI's and people with drug convictions, to background checks, piss tests, credit checks, and psych evals. I went down and got my physical examination one day, and I walked in, sat Down (got good and drunk the night before, so I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning, 'cause I wanted to look like the All-American Kid From New York City. I wanted to feel like . . . I wanted to be the All-American Kid from New York), and I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, Brung down, hung up and all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things. And I walked in, I sat down, they gave me a piece of paper that said: "Kid, See the psychiatrist in room 604." I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I want to kill! I want to see Blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth! Eat dead, burnt bodies! I Mean: Kill. Kill!" And I started jumpin' up and down, yellin' "KILL! KILL!" and he started Jumpin' up and down with me, and we was both jumpin' up and down, yellin', "KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!" and the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me, Sent me down the hall, said "You're our boy". Didn't feel too good about it. Proceeded down the hall, gettin' more injections, inspections, detections, Neglections, and all kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me at the thing There, and I was there for two hours... three hours... four hours... I was There for a long time goin' through all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things, And I was just havin' a tough time there, and they was inspectin', Injectin', every single part of me, and they was leavin' no part untouched! Proceeded through, and I finally came to see the very last man. I walked in, Sat down, after a whole big thing there. I walked up, and I said, "What do You want?" He said, "Kid, we only got one question: Have you ever been Arrested?"Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ufk22 32 #29 December 25, 2015 We all had more fun on the "Group W" benchThis is the paradox of skydiving. We do something very dangerous, expose ourselves to a totally unnecesary risk, and then spend our time trying to make it safer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #30 December 25, 2015 DougHBe careful, you may have the USPA move from a medical requirement that just trips up candidates with DUI's and people with drug convictions, to background checks, piss tests, credit checks, and psych evals. I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I want to kill! I want to see Blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth! Eat dead, burnt bodies! I Mean: Kill. Kill!" And I started jumpin' up and down, yellin' "KILL! KILL!" and he started Jumpin' up and down with me, and we was both jumpin' up and down, yellin', "KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!" and the sergeant came over, pinned a medal on me, Sent me down the hall, said "You're our boy". Didn't feel too good about it. Proceeded down the hall, gettin' more injections, inspections, detections, Neglections, and all kinds of stuff that they was doin' to me at the thing There, and I was there for two hours... three hours... four hours... I was There for a long time goin' through all kinds of mean, nasty, ugly things, And I was just havin' a tough time there, and they was inspectin', Injectin', every single part of me, and they was leavin' no part untouched! Proceeded through, and I finally came to see the very last man. I walked in, Sat down, after a whole big thing there. I walked up, and I said, "What do You want?" He said, "Kid, we only got one question: Have you ever been Arrested?"Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #31 December 25, 2015 Most SoCal dz's I've been to already do piss test, usually at random. It usually really opens up the DZ employment opportunities afterward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 622 #32 December 26, 2015 One of the most interesting "random" golden flow testing I've seen: "Hey! All staff! Next month is random pee test month so you've got about 30-40 days." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theonlyski 3 #33 January 19, 2016 Sorry to jack your thread, but there are other changes coming to the medical certification in a couple months. Effective 4/1/2016 the medicals won't come with the student pilot certificate anymore. If someone wants the student pilot certificate, they have to apply for one, be cleared by the TSA (oh joy) and be issued a plastic card (which from what it sounds like, is the same card we get after a successful checkride) that says "Student Pilot". Not going to impact many people on here, but I've known a few TIs who had their medical and decided to give flying a shot, which this would make a difference to. http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/New-Student-Pilot-Rules-One-Step-Back-None-Forward-225525-1.html?platform=hootsuite Not many pilots are thrilled about this and I can bet even fewer of the CFIs out there are."I may be a dirty pirate hooker...but I'm not about to go stand on the corner." iluvtofly DPH -7, TDS 578, Muff 5153, SCR 14890 I'm an asshole, and I approve this message Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 558 #34 January 21, 2016 As a Canadian-based Tandem Examiner, Strong Enterprises allows me a but more slack than Americans. Strong has never demanded an FAA medical from any of the new TIs that I trained. I cannot remember the last time I included a Transport Canada Class 3 Medical with a new TI's paperwork. Strong has always been satisfied with a note (signed by a doctor) saying that the patient is "healthy enough to participate in parachuting." Several new TIs were approved by TC Flight Surgeons, but I told them not to waste the extra $100 applying for a TC medical. The key point is that new TIs must produce paperwork (signed by a medical doctor) stating that they meet the same medical standards as a private pilot. It would be nice if they got re-examined every 2 or 3 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites