quade 3 #1 June 2, 2004 http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=11842617&BRD=1817&PAG=461&dept_id=222089&rfi=6 Quote Eloy OK's wind tunnel popular with skydivers By JOSE GARCIA, Arizona City Independent June 02, 2004 ELOY - Feeling the effects of skydiving without stepping out of a moving airplane should be possible later this year after the Eloy City Council approved a special-use permit for Skydive Arizona to construct a wind tunnel at the city airport. The wind tunnel is to be used for training as well as recreational purposes. The council disagreed with a city staff recommendation on the permissible noise level for the tunnel. The staff recommended a 40-decibel limit from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. and 45 dB from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m., the levels originally proposed for the new zoning ordinance. The council felt the current limits for commercial zones would be permissible. Those are 90 dB in the daytime and 80 dB at night. The wind tunnel received a positive recommendation from the Eloy Planning and Zoning Commission April 21. Councilman Richard Horton had called Councilmen Byron Jackson and Jesse Rosel from near a wind tunnel in Parris Valley, Calif., and they said they were not able to hear it in the background. City Manager Jim McFellin said 40 dB and 45 dB are levels the World Health Organization has set as acceptable levels of noise pollution. That is why the city felt setting the same level at the property line was acceptable. Some vehicles in the street are noisier than that, Jackson said. McFellin said those were not continuous sounds. McFellin said he had purchased property about a mile away to build a home. He will not build it if he has to listen to the sound for 18 hours or more, he said. Since the first wind tunnel went up elsewhere in 1998, owner Larry Hill's business at Skydive Arizona has been going down. In order for his business to survive, he has to grow with the industry, he said. It would be difficult for him to survive another season without a wind tunnel. During the planning and zoning meeting, area business representatives supported Hill in his venture, saying their businesses could not survive if Eloy lost Skydive Arizona. Much of their business is coming from skydivers who frequent their restaurants, bars and motels. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #2 June 2, 2004 QuoteSince the first wind tunnel went up elsewhere in 1998, owner Larry Hill's business at Skydive Arizona has been going down. In order for his business to survive, he has to grow with the industry, he said. It would be difficult for him to survive another season without a wind tunnel. WOW, Skydive Arizona is going to go away if they dont get the tunnel approved!! Of course it was approved for the permit as Eloy gets lots of $$ from skydivers and I would hate to see what it would survive on w/o it. Still, that is a bold statment to make to the board, almost like a threat.... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squirrel 0 #3 June 3, 2004 "McFellin said he had purchased property about a mile away to build a home. He will not build it if he has to listen to the sound for 18 hours or more, he said." gee, like he didnt know about the planes flying all around making noise. god damn i am glad i am not, and will never be, a politician. ________________________________ Where is Darwin when you need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VectorBoy 0 #4 June 3, 2004 McFellin said he had purchased property about a mile away to build a home. He will not build it if he has to listen to the sound for 18 hours or more, he said.Quote Wow, buy land for a house a mile from a busy, noisy turbine airport dropzone and now complains about the possibility of tunnel noise? Where is this guy from california? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 3 #5 June 3, 2004 Well, there would be a reasonable expectation that the dz wouldn't operate 24 hours a day at full capacity. The same can not always be said of a wind tunnel. That said, the Perris Tunnel is pretty damn quiet and I can't imagine the SPL being all that high from a mile away. Now, try making a roller coaster hit 60db from 300 feet away -- THAT'S a design challenge.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #6 November 23, 2004 To see thw current progress check: www.skyventureaz.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #7 December 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteSince the first wind tunnel went up elsewhere in 1998, owner Larry Hill's business at Skydive Arizona has been going down. In order for his business to survive, he has to grow with the industry, he said. It would be difficult for him to survive another season without a wind tunnel. WOW, Skydive Arizona is going to go away if they dont get the tunnel approved!! Of course it was approved for the permit as Eloy gets lots of $$ from skydivers and I would hate to see what it would survive on w/o it. Still, that is a bold statment to make to the board, almost like a threat.... Scott C. Ya, and the economy started to decline in 98, so that might have a wee bit to do with it. See, this is why skydivers should vote Democrat; Repubs ice the economy, hence no fun times at DZ's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
quade 3 #5 June 3, 2004 Well, there would be a reasonable expectation that the dz wouldn't operate 24 hours a day at full capacity. The same can not always be said of a wind tunnel. That said, the Perris Tunnel is pretty damn quiet and I can't imagine the SPL being all that high from a mile away. Now, try making a roller coaster hit 60db from 300 feet away -- THAT'S a design challenge.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #6 November 23, 2004 To see thw current progress check: www.skyventureaz.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #7 December 4, 2004 QuoteQuoteSince the first wind tunnel went up elsewhere in 1998, owner Larry Hill's business at Skydive Arizona has been going down. In order for his business to survive, he has to grow with the industry, he said. It would be difficult for him to survive another season without a wind tunnel. WOW, Skydive Arizona is going to go away if they dont get the tunnel approved!! Of course it was approved for the permit as Eloy gets lots of $$ from skydivers and I would hate to see what it would survive on w/o it. Still, that is a bold statment to make to the board, almost like a threat.... Scott C. Ya, and the economy started to decline in 98, so that might have a wee bit to do with it. See, this is why skydivers should vote Democrat; Repubs ice the economy, hence no fun times at DZ's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
