howardwhite 5 #1 September 27, 2008 ...and who's jumping them, or has jumped them? HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #2 September 27, 2008 Interesting... I don't think I've ever seen canopies built like that..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #3 September 27, 2008 1940's era smoke jumpers.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lodestar 0 #4 September 27, 2008 My guess would be european, possibly russian or german....odd looking things for sure.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #5 September 27, 2008 It is an FS-1 with a 30' extended skirt main, usually packed in a T7 type container. Canopy was used by the US Forest Service, circa 1942. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #6 September 28, 2008 Quote ...and who's jumping them, or has jumped them? HW It looks like a cross between an annular and a parabolic.SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 September 28, 2008 Quote It is an FS-1 with a 30' extended skirt main, usually packed in a T7 type container. Canopy was used by the US Forest Service, circa 1942. Sure, but what are the serial numbers? Ok, seriously, how did you know that? Previous experience as a smoke jumper or just bumping into the design previously?--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 5 #8 September 28, 2008 OK, well then.. was the canopy considered to have forward motion and to be steerable? And if so, how was it steered?HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #9 September 28, 2008 The FS-1 had 6' long Derry slots five gores apart so I would assume it was steerable (at the least it was manueverable) and had a little forward speed. It was steered with guidelines attached to the skirt and connector links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 5 #10 September 28, 2008 I haven't been able to find a picture of an FS-1, but I have found a reference saying it was first put into service in 1943. Poynter says the first 60 were manufactured in 1942. One of the attached pictures is from a 1939 Forest Service report. The source of my orginal picture identifies it as "1940s Smokejumpers on the job," and the accompanying story identifies it as something other than an FS-1. That something is also the identification given to the canopy in the second attachment. HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #11 September 28, 2008 Quoteidentifies it as something other than an FS-1 Look in PPM, pages 192, 193 and it tells about all of the FS canopies. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
howardwhite 5 #12 September 28, 2008 I've now had a chance to look at the 1991 Poynter manual (mine at home is an older one.) I continue to think the canopies in my original post are "Eagles" (pre-FS-1), and that's consistent with what's in my original source. (BTW, that dude modeling the NB-6 on page 5.022 is me.) HW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 3 #13 September 29, 2008 (BTW, that dude modeling the NB-6 on page 5.022 is me.) Quote And the guy modeling the Stream-Lite on page 212 (5.390) is me. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gjhdiver 0 #14 September 30, 2008 Quote OK, well then.. was the canopy considered to have forward motion and to be steerable? And if so, how was it steered?HW They've both got the dreaded four-line release on them. I had a reserve with a four-line chop on it for a while. It takes a bit of nerve to release them and watch the rear of the canopy blow out like that. You steer by pulling down on the left and right rear risers after you release the lines. The released lines are only connected to deal with opening forces. Once the lines are released, the air will spill out of the back of the canopy, providing soem forward motion and directional control. The operative word is some. They could also provided a nice oscillation to make landings more interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NovaTTT 1 #15 September 30, 2008 Quote And the guy modeling the Stream-Lite on page 212 (5.390) is me. Wild necklace, man. "Even in a world where perfection is unattainable, there's still a difference between excellence and mediocrity." Gary73 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JumpUpMyAss 0 #16 October 1, 2008 Dave, I know what this is...... it's a 21' Piglet jumped by a gay, invisible midget inflated inside a 28' C-9 canopy with a 4-line release. Manship did this may times - I've seen it before. Fullerstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingferret 0 #17 October 2, 2008 Great, they let anyone in here now! Haven't seen you in a while man. Skillet-- All the flaming and trolls of wreck dot with a pretty GUI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JumpUpMyAss 0 #18 October 3, 2008 Have you been jumping anywhere? I returned your call a while back - was working/living in Houston for the past 6 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
