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Okay, I snipped and uploaded it to Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqdmXxBZjI
Comment there, or here, with insight!
I think it's pretty good. about 2 1/2 minutes.
I noticed there are two static line jumpers. I had thought the no-helmet guy was just jumpmastering. But it appears he jumped too! maybe he got carried away with the moment. No helmet, no jumpsuit, no goggles? Not sure if he's the 2nd jumper though. What think?
This is what I looked for - for yrs. I had been told about it, but had no proof it was actually done - now, you found it. I was only able to watch it in second segments. Does anyone know how I can get it on a disk or whatever in order to view it like it is supposed to be viewed. I have only dial-up.
Air America planes had a connection to JMWave (reported to be a covert cover) out of Florida. JMWave bought some of the planes. Two companies who had Weber on their payroll at that time and prior to that as Collins were part of JMWave.? Go research JMWave and you will find they bought Air American planes in the 60's and early 70's. JMWave was reportedly related to various covert actions in Cuba and other countries. There was also a reported drug connection.
I know you guys think I am crazy but this clip took me right back to where I was yrs ago and all it got me was 12 yrs of being ridiculed and made fun of and called delusional....BUT, I didn't have the clip - just the information that it had been done and Duane's involvement with these companies.
These Insurance companies have alway been a puzzled me because Ex-cons cannot be licensed insurance agents. I met many individual who worked for these companies when Duane did - and I have since 1996 found that four of whom Duane had a close association with are also ex-cons. Most agents with these companies were and are very legitimate - but for some reason it seemed to be a easy place for ex-cons to find employment.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
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QuoteDid anyone see the Discovery documentary on last night? It was news to me. Jo got her 5 minutes.
TK
No. Is it available online?
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
snowmman 3
QuoteQuoteDid anyone see the Discovery documentary on last night? It was news to me. Jo got her 5 minutes.
TK
No. Is it available online?
377
TV? what's TV?
Looks like something was on this morning on Discovery Channel? Is this a new flick?
Dec 15, 11:00 am
(60 minutes)
D.B. Cooper
TV-PG, CC
A Hollywood screenwriter couldn't have better scripted D.B. Cooper's parachuted jump strapped with a stolen $200,000 from Northwest Airlines 727 in 1971. With sophisticated forensic techniques, new light is shed on this dark night of a criminal vanisher.
In 2004, Discovery had this flick with Jo:
"Flight From Justice: The Story of D.B. Cooper." Not only will Jo Weber be interviewed on the show, producers say FBI investigators will share their theories on who hijacked that plane nearly 33 years ago.
That show was reviewed here:
http://www.tv.com/the-fbi-files/flight-from-justice-the-story-of-d.b.-cooper/episode/535955/reviews.html?review_id=90577&flag=&tag=reviews;episode;continue;1
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Bill bixby is alive and well and living with Elvis and DB Cooper. Regardless of DB's fate it's nicde to have our own Elvis in the skydiving world. Sorry, no factual info to offer, just love that DB is alive and well in the forum!
However, $200k from 1971 is probably gone so if he is alive he is certainly working somewhere, maybe your local DZ.
However, $200k from 1971 is probably gone so if he is alive he is certainly working somewhere, maybe your local DZ.
Chris
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QuoteBill bixby is alive and well and living with Elvis and DB Cooper. Regardless of DB's fate it's nicde to have our own Elvis in the skydiving world. Sorry, no factual info to offer, just love that DB is alive and well in the forum!
However, $200k from 1971 is probably gone so if he is alive he is certainly working somewhere, maybe your local DZ.
Maybe a greeter at WalMart. He would only be 80-90.
Georger
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QuoteQuoteQuoteDid anyone see the Discovery documentary on last night? It was news to me. Jo got her 5 minutes.
TK
No. Is it available online?
377
TV? what's TV?
Looks like something was on this morning on Discovery Channel? Is this a new flick?
Dec 15, 11:00 am
(60 minutes)
D.B. Cooper
TV-PG, CC
A Hollywood screenwriter couldn't have better scripted D.B. Cooper's parachuted jump strapped with a stolen $200,000 from Northwest Airlines 727 in 1971. With sophisticated forensic techniques, new light is shed on this dark night of a criminal vanisher.
In 2004, Discovery had this flick with Jo:
"Flight From Justice: The Story of D.B. Cooper." Not only will Jo Weber be interviewed on the show, producers say FBI investigators will share their theories on who hijacked that plane nearly 33 years ago.
That show was reviewed here:
http://www.tv.com/the-fbi-files/flight-from-justice-the-story-of-d.b.-cooper/episode/535955/reviews.html?review_id=90577&flag=&tag=reviews;episode;continue;1
Its obvious. What the world needs and wants, is a
Jo Weber DB Cooper doll!
Book writers could put the Jo Weber doll in with their
books!
Networks could sell the Jo Weber DB Cooper doll!
Just imagine. Out of every 60 mins of programming
CNN could market its Jo Weber doll for 45 minutes.
Jo would be a billionaire. Sluggo would be a millionaire managing Jo's affairs. Geof Gray cold
get the first 10,000 certified dolls to sell with his
book! Galen Cook could be denied any dolls to sell.
Thats it! The Jo Weber DB Cooper doll.
You heard it first here(@)Georger
Georger copywrite@12-16-08
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Okay, I snipped and uploaded it to Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqdmXxBZjI
Comment there, or here, with insight!
I think it's pretty good. about 2 1/2 minutes.
I noticed there are two static line jumpers. I had thought the no-helmet guy was just jumpmastering. But it appears he jumped too! maybe he got carried away with the moment. No helmet, no jumpsuit, no goggles? Not sure if he's the 2nd jumper though. What think?
This is what I looked for - for yrs. I had been told about it, but had no proof it was actually done - now, you found it. I was only able to watch it in second segments. Does anyone know how I can get it on a disk or whatever in order to view it like it is supposed to be viewed. I have only dial-up.
Air America planes had a connection to JMWave (reported to be a covert cover) out of Florida. JMWave bought some of the planes. Two companies who had Weber on their payroll at that time and prior to that as Collins were part of JMWave.? Go research JMWave and you will find they bought Air American planes in the 60's and early 70's. JMWave was reportedly related to various covert actions in Cuba and other countries. There was also a reported drug connection.
I know you guys think I am crazy but this clip took me right back to where I was yrs ago and all it got me was 12 yrs of being ridiculed and made fun of and called delusional....BUT, I didn't have the clip - just the information that it had been done and Duane's involvement with these companies.
These Insurance companies have alway been a puzzled me because Ex-cons cannot be licensed insurance agents. I met many individual who worked for these companies when Duane did - and I have since 1996 found that four of whom Duane had a close association with are also ex-cons. Most agents with these companies were and are very legitimate - but for some reason it seemed to be a easy place for ex-cons to find employment.
I do seem to recall Jo insisting that there had been early 727 jumps. I remember questioning her proof.
Jo, how did you obtain that info? I had my strong doubts, but you were right. I expected Dr. Lesser to confirm that the Air America 727 jump stories were urban myth, but SURPRISE: he links me to FILM OF THE JUMPS!!!!
JM Wave appears to be entwined in all sorts of spook stuff. Doesn't mean Duane was Cooper but it does add some possibilities that Duane may have been exposed to some covert ops guys.
Jo, you make a big deal about felons being banned from insurance jobs. Duane was a con man. Isn't it far more likely that he evaded detection of his convictions rather than being granted a free felon pass by higher ups? I have seen it done by flipping a number pair on a social security number and misspelling one letter in a last name. If caught you claim "mistake or typo". If not caught, you got the job. Back in the pre Internet days it was easy to hide criminal records in routine employment situations. Maybe word spread among cons about places that were lax in checking backgrounds. I just cannot see an insurance company intentionally recruiting cons.
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
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I think the chase plane seen flying above the 727 is an Air America Beech/Volpar Turbo Beech 18. I didn't think a radial engined Twin Beech could rendezvous with and pace a 727, but a turboprop one could.
I bet someone on another dropzone forum knows something about these airdrop tests. I am going to try and find out who.
The jumper in the white shirt with no helmet is puzzling. Strange attire for a test jump. His rig is S/L so he wasnt a loadmaster or kicker. They are shown with ripcord rigs. Who were these earliest 727 jumpers? US? Thai? Laotion?
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I bet someone on another dropzone forum knows something about these airdrop tests. I am going to try and find out who.
The jumper in the white shirt with no helmet is puzzling. Strange attire for a test jump. His rig is S/L so he wasnt a loadmaster or kicker. They are shown with ripcord rigs. Who were these earliest 727 jumpers? US? Thai? Laotion?
377
2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.
Jo Stated:
377 stated:
Most of them had no idea he was an excon, but 4 at one time were working for a specific company along with legitimate employees. Duane was using his real name and SS. I have told authorities about this "other " person and persons of interest involved with some of the companies. I got ignored.
For the most part the companies Duane worked for were legitimate, but I was not comfortable with them myself. I was happy when he was able to get back with a the one company he retired from - a very reputable and well knonw company... his criminal record never came up in all of those yrs from 1978 until 1988. Amazing.
The had supscions of strange things even in the 80's but, in 1996 afterr researching Duane's past - a pattern evolved. I didn't know what it was - it just didn't feel right - but then HOW much did I know about this man I had been married to for 17 yrs.
I shared this GUT feeling with Himmelsbach and others.
The JMWave thing was put to me a few yrs ago - around 2002 by someone from CA trying to make a MLK connection, but I had already played with the covert angle, I just didn't have a nane for it. I told the FBI what I suspected in the 90's.
In the last 2 yrs "Sluggo" was able to peg 2 of the companies as JMWave entities. So his visit with me was time very well spent, just to verify that Duane had indeed worked for the companies.
Sluggo is an amazing guy himself along with Safecrack whom I have never met. I have had angels with me for a long time - most really want to help, but then there are those who are self serving meaning that they are using me for their own purpose (story, book, movie or whatever they do).
As for that show you are talking about - I have done only one thing in the last 7 yrs around 2003.
Was this one they did on the beach? (I don't know if they used the beach clip, but it was made at the Inn on the beach). That was the LAST one. The one before that was in WA in 2001.
I took NO compensation for my time - they film you for hours and use 1 or 2 minutes. I wonder what they do with all of that footage they film? Archive it or destory it?
I swore I would never do it again and so far I have not. If the FBI can't get off their ass I might just have to do it one last time, but I cannot tolerate the heat and the lights with my condition and do not know how they can get around that.
Hopefully the FBI will get their job done - and all I will have to do is turn my stuff over to someone and say - Tell what REALLY HAPPENED and keep it factual - no myths, no literary licensing of facts - no fllth, no illicite sex and do it honestly.
Bury DB Cooper once and for all.
QuoteThis is what I looked for - for yrs. I had been told about it, but had no proof it was actually done - now, you found it. I was only able to watch it in second segments. Does anyone know how I can get it on a disk or whatever in order to view it like it is supposed to be viewed. I have only dial-up.
Air America planes had a connection to JMWave (reported to be a covert cover) out of Florida. JMWave bought some of the planes. Two companies who had Weber on their payroll at that time and prior to that as Collins were part of JMWave.? Go research JMWave and you will find they bought Air American planes in the 60's and early 70's. JMWave was reportedly related to various covert actions in Cuba and other countries. There was also a reported drug connection.
I know you guys think I am crazy but this clip took me right back to where I was yrs ago and all it got me was 12 yrs of being ridiculed and made fun of and called delusional....BUT, I didn't have the clip - just the information that it had been done and Duane's involvement with these companies.
These Insurance companies have alway been a puzzled me because Ex-cons cannot be licensed insurance agents. I met many individual who worked for these companies when Duane did - and I have since 1996 found that four of whom Duane had a close association with are also ex-cons. Most agents with these companies were and are very legitimate - but for some reason it seemed to be a easy place for ex-cons to find employment.
377 stated:
QuoteI do seem to recall Jo insisting that there had been early 727 jumps. I remember questioning her proof.
Jo, how did you obtain that info? I had my strong doubts, but you were right. I expected Dr. Lesser to confirm that the Air America 727 jump stories were urban myth, but SURPRISE: he links me to FILM OF THE JUMPS!!!!
JM Wave appears to be entwined in all sorts of spook stuff. Doesn't mean Duane was Cooper but it does add some possibilities that Duane may have been exposed to some covert ops guys.
Jo, you make a big deal about felons being banned from insurance jobs. Duane was a con man. Isn't it far more likely that he evaded detection of his convictions rather than being granted a free felon pass by higher ups? I have seen it done by flipping a number pair on a social security number and misspelling one letter in a last name. If caught you claim "mistake or typo". If not caught, you got the job. Back in the pre Internet days it was easy to hide criminal records in routine employment situations. Maybe word spread among cons about places that were lax in checking backgrounds. I just cannot see an insurance company intentionally recruiting cons.
Most of them had no idea he was an excon, but 4 at one time were working for a specific company along with legitimate employees. Duane was using his real name and SS. I have told authorities about this "other " person and persons of interest involved with some of the companies. I got ignored.
For the most part the companies Duane worked for were legitimate, but I was not comfortable with them myself. I was happy when he was able to get back with a the one company he retired from - a very reputable and well knonw company... his criminal record never came up in all of those yrs from 1978 until 1988. Amazing.
The had supscions of strange things even in the 80's but, in 1996 afterr researching Duane's past - a pattern evolved. I didn't know what it was - it just didn't feel right - but then HOW much did I know about this man I had been married to for 17 yrs.
I shared this GUT feeling with Himmelsbach and others.
The JMWave thing was put to me a few yrs ago - around 2002 by someone from CA trying to make a MLK connection, but I had already played with the covert angle, I just didn't have a nane for it. I told the FBI what I suspected in the 90's.
In the last 2 yrs "Sluggo" was able to peg 2 of the companies as JMWave entities. So his visit with me was time very well spent, just to verify that Duane had indeed worked for the companies.
Sluggo is an amazing guy himself along with Safecrack whom I have never met. I have had angels with me for a long time - most really want to help, but then there are those who are self serving meaning that they are using me for their own purpose (story, book, movie or whatever they do).
As for that show you are talking about - I have done only one thing in the last 7 yrs around 2003.
Was this one they did on the beach? (I don't know if they used the beach clip, but it was made at the Inn on the beach). That was the LAST one. The one before that was in WA in 2001.
I took NO compensation for my time - they film you for hours and use 1 or 2 minutes. I wonder what they do with all of that footage they film? Archive it or destory it?
I swore I would never do it again and so far I have not. If the FBI can't get off their ass I might just have to do it one last time, but I cannot tolerate the heat and the lights with my condition and do not know how they can get around that.
Hopefully the FBI will get their job done - and all I will have to do is turn my stuff over to someone and say - Tell what REALLY HAPPENED and keep it factual - no myths, no literary licensing of facts - no fllth, no illicite sex and do it honestly.
Bury DB Cooper once and for all.
Copyright 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 2013, 2014, 2015 by Jo Weber
All,
Nice job on the 727 movie! Nothing like actual pics/video to prove a point. Things were getting pretty personal around here lately, I am glad your back to real RESEARCH!
I am waiting on UPS for a palladium target for my sputter coater. This will allow for more detailed elemental analysis. Besides that I have money rotting in a jar with water, kind of like watching paint dry....
Did anyone see the Discovery documentary on last night? It was news to me. Jo got her 5 minutes.
TK
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