Reserve Rides to Jump Ratio on Gear appropriate for Beginner to intermediate use.

[tdog 0]

I walked by someone the other day who said to another jumper he had over 40 reserve rides. I kept walking, but thought - "please don't pack my ride."

This poll asks the question, how many times statistically have you fired your reserve - or if you are an employee of a DZ, what is your DZ average.

For the sake of the question, please assume malfunctions on modern (in production) gear that a typical fun/recreational jumper with average experience might use - not mals on highly loaded, super aggressive, competition or experimental equipment only the top tier of our community use.

NOTE - I TRIED TO EDIT THE POLL TO ADD >600- IT WON'T LET ME - SO VOTE 500-600 IF YOU ARE >600.

[brits17 0]

You need to make an option that has >600

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[MarkM 0]

A problem with the poll is that it'll get skewed by us low jumpers. I've never had a reserve ride, but with only 160 jumps that's no surprise.

[billvon 2,435]

4200 jumps, 5 unintentional reserve rides - but 3 of those were on tandems. So about 1 in 800 on all gear, 1 in 2100 on gear I pack and maintain.

[Cayce 0]

I guess I'm running at 50% of the time right now. Of course I've only had two jumps so I'm expecting the ratio to even out here pretty soon...

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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4200 jumps, 5 unintentional reserve rides - but 3 of those were on tandems. So about 1 in 800 on all gear, 1 in 2100 on gear I pack and maintain.

Your math is confusing Bill. "1 in 2100 on gear I pack and maintain." only makes sense if all 4200 jumps were on your own gear and none were on the tandem gear.

[Frenchy68 0]

1 in 63 jumps.
Not sure why the "top tiers" of the community is exempt from voting though...

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[billvon 2,435]

>"1 in 2100 on gear I pack and maintain." only makes sense if all 4200
>jumps were on your own gear and none were on the tandem gear.

You're right; it's closer to about 1 in 2000. (I only did about 250 tandems before giving it up.)

[tdog 0]

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1 in 63 jumps.
Not sure why the "top tiers" of the community is exempt from voting though...

My intent was not to exempt the very experienced - but to isolate equipment that might malfunction more often (where the experienced jumper is willing to accept that risk in exchange for some other desired result).

[faulknerwn 37]

I'm 0 mals on 2100+ jumps on square canopies, and have I believe 7 in 1500 jumps on elliptical canopies. Course I have about 8 cutaways from CRW but that's a tad different :-)

W (haven't chopped in a month now! )

[jas8472 0]

never used mine, but I know a guy who at one point had 5 in 300.

[phoenixlpr 0]

???

And so what I have 5 too. 2 of them was my own stupid fault. IMHO this pool is completly useless......they are not coming regular basis...

[DutchSkyCam 0]

Overall 7 times in about 2800 jumps makes 1 in 400.

2 times in 2000 funjumps (13 years) on normal sport gear (makes 1 in a 1000) Both cutaways were in the same week on jump # 720 and #740. first was packing related and second was broken steering line.
I have 1000+ jumps on crossbraced canopies WL 2.2. No reserves on them.

5 times in about 800 tandems (makes 1 in 160)
None of the 5 tandem reserves were own packjobs and 1 broken riser was gear related.
edited to add: All tandem reserves were in the same year(2003). I'm a tandemmaster since 1999...

[skaterboi 0]

been super close on jump 87 with a PC in burble and i was trigger happy. but nope not one so far (touch wood)

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