danny2485 0 #1 January 17, 2009 i know i live in florida but were getting a cold spell. i have enough to do my first 3 jumps and then ill finish the next 4 when i get my tax return. well i just dont know about the weather. right now its cold and im not sure how it will affect me. i have longjohns and stuff and dont really mind the cold but at 15k its gonna be freezing. should i just wait till we have a really warm week? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GLIDEANGLE 1 #2 January 17, 2009 Caveat.... I am a blessed to live in warm Texas. However, I have found that even when the air temp at ground level is freezing (~30 degrees F), I am comfortable at altitude. I dress in layers and wear vinyl or nitrile gloves inside my usual golves to block the wind. I wear a neck gaiter. I wear a full face helmet. I find that the key is to keep the wind off my skin. As long as I do that I am fine. I am sure that someone from a place with REAL cold will provide you with more authoritative opinion. The only moment that I find uncomfortable when jumping in these circumstances is being the front float "Would you PLEASE hurry up and get ready!!!" Try searching the fourm for this topic. (Vinyl or nitrile gloves can be found at most hardware or paint stores.)The choices we make have consequences, for us & for others! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danny2485 0 #3 January 17, 2009 thanks, ill check that out. hopefully within a few weeks ill have my first 3 done. hopefully it will warm back up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wrightskyguy 1 #4 January 17, 2009 QuoteCaveat.... I am a blessed to live in warm Texas. However, I have found that even when the air temp at ground level is freezing (~30 degrees F), I am comfortable at altitude. I dress in layers and wear vinyl or nitrile gloves inside my usual golves to block the wind. I wear a neck gaiter. I wear a full face helmet. I find that the key is to keep the wind off my skin. As long as I do that I am fine. I am sure that someone from a place with REAL cold will provide you with more authoritative opinion. The only moment that I find uncomfortable when jumping in these circumstances is being the front float "Would you PLEASE hurry up and get ready!!!" Try searching the fourm for this topic. (Vinyl or nitrile gloves can be found at most hardware or paint stores.) *** I personally am not comfortable with an AFF student wearing gloves of any kind. If it's so cold that you have to wear gloves or layer up to make the jump bearable, you're better off waiting till it warms up a scosh. You've got enough to think about without all the restricted movement and loss of tactile feel in your fingers issues that goes along with gloves/heavy clothing. John Wright World's most beloved skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites VerticalRush 0 #5 January 17, 2009 I think maybe a break while you wait for your funds to catch up to you is the best answer... it might be a bit warmer then, too. Having the money in hand to push through your AFF and 'A' license jump requirements is a very good idea. In skydiving currency is a term you will hear a lot about. staying current through your early training will be cheaper, less time consuming, and much, much safer for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #6 January 17, 2009 how cold are we talking - freezing on the ground, or just not sunny Florida weather? I get nervous when I go to LA and see everyone putting on gloves and neckwear, but they're just being pansies. 40F on the ground can translate to pretty nippy up there, though you might not notice until after freefall, as your mind on are on other things. But if you're cold all the way up, it may affect your performance. Unless you're getting your tax return within 4 weeks of when you plan to do these first jumps, wait anyway. You can go up to a month, but probably would do better not to go more than one weekend off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hackish 8 #7 January 17, 2009 Our last day of the year it was -14C at 6k and damn-it I didn't want to go any higher than that. Subject to instructor approval, I've found that mechanix gloves do a good job of keeping my fingers warm and still giving good feeling for grabbing the pud. Also, if you have a turtleneck it's not a bad idea. Jackets can be fine but don't use one with a collar because it will slap your neck the whole way down. Or as others suggested wait until it's warmer. Other things to think about and talk with your instructors about is that fact that bulky clothing can cause your handles to be in places you're not used to. PS you floridians are wimps... -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites markovwgti 0 #8 January 17, 2009 cold.....in florida......hahahahhahha....gooooooood joke....man...havent heard that one ever Its umm 8 degrees on the ground here right now......maybe -40 at altitude here....id still jump in this weather ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dragon2 0 #9 January 17, 2009 Sjeesh you guys are wusses clicky ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Scoop 0 #10 January 17, 2009 I've jumped where at altitude it was -21 C. That wasn't pleasant. Just whack on the layers. 2 tshirts, big fleece etc. I also wear a motorcyclists tube type neck scarf which really helps, especially with open face helmet because can pull it right up over nose! Dress for success and you wont have a problem! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tombuch 0 #11 January 17, 2009 I would wait until it warms up, and hopefully until you have sufficient funds. Experienced jumpers can tolerate the cold by layering, but that creates additional problems. Those layers restrict your movement, and limit your ability to feel the air pressure against your body. Gloves can reduce your tactile sense and make grabbing ripcords less effective. Neck gators reduce head movement and visibility. And the cold will still get through, especially on any exposed skin, and that makes your body tense which is itself not a good thing. So, given where you are, I'd wait at least long enough for it to warm up, and as others have noted it would probably be better to wait until you have your tax refund in hand.Tom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites danny2485 0 #12 January 17, 2009 thanks to all the replies guys. im gonna wait for it to come. then do all of them in a row. i dont want to be retaking anything that i dont get right since i took off time. i just cannot wait to do it. im so excited to jump again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #13 January 17, 2009 Quote *** I personally am not comfortable with an AFF student wearing gloves of any kind. If it's so cold that you have to wear gloves or layer up to make the jump bearable, you're better off waiting till it warms up a scosh. You've got enough to think about without all the restricted movement and loss of tactile feel in your fingers issues that goes along with gloves/heavy clothing. Up here it is unusual for the temperature to be above 5C at altitude and it will be below 0 for most of the season. I put gloves on students for almost all jumps from the top. If you learn to skydive with gloves on it just isn't a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 2,435 #14 January 19, 2009 > You've got enough to think about without all the restricted movement > and loss of tactile feel in your fingers issues that goes along with > gloves/heavy clothing. A good point. I would add that if you feel that it is necessary to have your students wear gloves/extra layers, make SURE that you do all the final walkthroughs in the same gear you will have them jump in - and make sure they do some actual pilot chute throws or ripcord pulls with the gloves on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 14 #15 January 19, 2009 Quote I personally am not comfortable with an AFF student wearing gloves of any kind. The SIM has temp regulations for when students need to wear gloves. It hasn't been a problem for my students. 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VerticalRush 0 #5 January 17, 2009 I think maybe a break while you wait for your funds to catch up to you is the best answer... it might be a bit warmer then, too. Having the money in hand to push through your AFF and 'A' license jump requirements is a very good idea. In skydiving currency is a term you will hear a lot about. staying current through your early training will be cheaper, less time consuming, and much, much safer for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 January 17, 2009 how cold are we talking - freezing on the ground, or just not sunny Florida weather? I get nervous when I go to LA and see everyone putting on gloves and neckwear, but they're just being pansies. 40F on the ground can translate to pretty nippy up there, though you might not notice until after freefall, as your mind on are on other things. But if you're cold all the way up, it may affect your performance. Unless you're getting your tax return within 4 weeks of when you plan to do these first jumps, wait anyway. You can go up to a month, but probably would do better not to go more than one weekend off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hackish 8 #7 January 17, 2009 Our last day of the year it was -14C at 6k and damn-it I didn't want to go any higher than that. Subject to instructor approval, I've found that mechanix gloves do a good job of keeping my fingers warm and still giving good feeling for grabbing the pud. Also, if you have a turtleneck it's not a bad idea. Jackets can be fine but don't use one with a collar because it will slap your neck the whole way down. Or as others suggested wait until it's warmer. Other things to think about and talk with your instructors about is that fact that bulky clothing can cause your handles to be in places you're not used to. PS you floridians are wimps... -Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markovwgti 0 #8 January 17, 2009 cold.....in florida......hahahahhahha....gooooooood joke....man...havent heard that one ever Its umm 8 degrees on the ground here right now......maybe -40 at altitude here....id still jump in this weather ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 0 #9 January 17, 2009 Sjeesh you guys are wusses clicky ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #10 January 17, 2009 I've jumped where at altitude it was -21 C. That wasn't pleasant. Just whack on the layers. 2 tshirts, big fleece etc. I also wear a motorcyclists tube type neck scarf which really helps, especially with open face helmet because can pull it right up over nose! Dress for success and you wont have a problem! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tombuch 0 #11 January 17, 2009 I would wait until it warms up, and hopefully until you have sufficient funds. Experienced jumpers can tolerate the cold by layering, but that creates additional problems. Those layers restrict your movement, and limit your ability to feel the air pressure against your body. Gloves can reduce your tactile sense and make grabbing ripcords less effective. Neck gators reduce head movement and visibility. And the cold will still get through, especially on any exposed skin, and that makes your body tense which is itself not a good thing. So, given where you are, I'd wait at least long enough for it to warm up, and as others have noted it would probably be better to wait until you have your tax refund in hand.Tom Buchanan Instructor Emeritus Comm Pilot MSEL,G Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danny2485 0 #12 January 17, 2009 thanks to all the replies guys. im gonna wait for it to come. then do all of them in a row. i dont want to be retaking anything that i dont get right since i took off time. i just cannot wait to do it. im so excited to jump again Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #13 January 17, 2009 Quote *** I personally am not comfortable with an AFF student wearing gloves of any kind. If it's so cold that you have to wear gloves or layer up to make the jump bearable, you're better off waiting till it warms up a scosh. You've got enough to think about without all the restricted movement and loss of tactile feel in your fingers issues that goes along with gloves/heavy clothing. Up here it is unusual for the temperature to be above 5C at altitude and it will be below 0 for most of the season. I put gloves on students for almost all jumps from the top. If you learn to skydive with gloves on it just isn't a problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,435 #14 January 19, 2009 > You've got enough to think about without all the restricted movement > and loss of tactile feel in your fingers issues that goes along with > gloves/heavy clothing. A good point. I would add that if you feel that it is necessary to have your students wear gloves/extra layers, make SURE that you do all the final walkthroughs in the same gear you will have them jump in - and make sure they do some actual pilot chute throws or ripcord pulls with the gloves on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 14 #15 January 19, 2009 Quote I personally am not comfortable with an AFF student wearing gloves of any kind. The SIM has temp regulations for when students need to wear gloves. It hasn't been a problem for my students. If they do their practices touches with the gloves on, the pull seems to go okay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
