NickDG 23 #1 November 30, 2007 The Bonfire thread about past trolls, made me think of the early days of Usenet and rec.skydiving a time when most only had internet access through universities. When I first came online in 1985 it was through local bulletin boards (BBS) and a bit later through GEnie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEnie There weren't "trolls" per se in those days, but "flame wars" were rampant. And most of these revolved around issues of moderating and censorship. We resisted those things back then, but it was either that or what happened to rec.skydive when it turned into wreck.skydive. And if you look at rec.skydive today it’s nothing but a big spamfest. I'm pretty sure the below attachment shows the very beginning of rec.skydiving The actual page is here: http://groups.google.com/group/net.rec.skydive/topics?start=120&sa=N And you can read some other early threads here, just click on some of the "all time posters": http://groups.google.com/group/net.rec.skydive/about NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites 2fat2fly 0 #2 November 30, 2007 But I miss Treetop and the Wreck was how I was introduced to Revjim-there were some good things back whenI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #3 November 30, 2007 "Blast Handles - Wave of the future" Wow... who would have thought it.... Thanks for the look back in time. I was on rec.skydiving from I guess 1995 or 1996 through about 2003 before I started up on here. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 6 #4 November 30, 2007 Quote "Blast Handles - Wave of the future" Wow... who would have thought it.... Thanks for the look back in time. I was on rec.skydiving from I guess 1995 or 1996 through about 2003 before I started up on here. I didn't even HAVE the internet back then... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #5 November 30, 2007 We were already very witty back in those days. I like this one . . . NickD Newsgroups: net.rec.skydive From: [email protected] (Gary Hansen) Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 15:59:11 EDT Local: Mon, Apr 30 1984 11:59 am Subject: altitude Remember boys and girls, it is now altitude savings time, set your altimeters up 1000'. Gary Hansen D7703 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy_Copland 0 #6 November 30, 2007 Thats pretty damn funny 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #7 November 30, 2007 Quote We were already very witty back in those days. I like this one . . . NickD Newsgroups: net.rec.skydive From: [email protected] (Gary Hansen) Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 15:59:11 EDT Local: Mon, Apr 30 1984 11:59 am Subject: altitude Remember boys and girls, it is now altitude savings time, set your altimeters up 1000'. Gary Hansen D7703 I know somebody who did that in the plane at Quincy years ago going up to 21K. He got low enough to actually see people walking on the ground before realizing he was LOW! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jsaxton 0 #8 November 30, 2007 what's even funnier is that the message was delivered via UUCP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JeepDiver 0 #9 December 1, 2007 Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #10 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 1,673 #11 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #12 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. Man I forgot all about Snuffy! What a weird character! Whatever happened to him? Peanut seemed to try and copy Snuffy's way of speaking but nobody can lisp like Snuffy. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #13 December 1, 2007 >>SnuffyThe orginal Master Chief . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #14 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo. In that respect....Professor Kallend also. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AFFI 0 #15 December 1, 2007 I sure would like to read that "Life After Skydiving" thread.Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Squeak 17 #16 December 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo. and Rhonda leeYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diverdriver 5 #17 December 2, 2007 I peeked in there a bit and claimed that there was a problem with the number of jump plane accidents. Someone said I had no proof or list of jump plane accidents. Whoever that was THANK YOU! I think my list is pretty long now. 100s of hours looking but I think it's fairly complete. So it wasn't a complete waste of time on the wreck.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 3 #18 December 2, 2007 QuoteI'm pretty sure the below attachment shows the very beginning of rec.skydiving No, actually. :) The beginning is here, in 1988: ftp://ftp.afn.org/skydive/rec.skydiving.archives/ Someone should maybe talk to these guys about this, because the Skydive! Archive site is down now, and there's no telling how long the ftp site will last. It would be a shame to lose the history if someone has a place to store it. (Note: I've got the whole mess downloaded, but that's not the same thing. And I haven't bothered to get the other stuff, like the dropzone reviews.) archive.org has the Skydive! Archive here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.afn.org/skydive/ ...but the posts from the the ftp site aren't collected, although the posts from '93 to '96 are: http://web.archive.org/web/20020501075208/www.afn.org/skydive/usenet/If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkydiveJack 1 #19 December 2, 2007 I didn't even HAVE the internet back then... There are posters here who weren't even born then.! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JeepDiver 0 #20 December 2, 2007 QuoteThe beginning is here, in 1988: I first got online back in 1989 using Prodigy I recall. I don't recall the browser, it was not a Windows operating system software program. I believe the software program was developed in Canada for DOS although I don't recall the name now. It was not a part of the Prodigy program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites grannyinthesky 0 #21 December 2, 2007 That's about the time I was using Prodigy with Geoworks."safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JeepDiver 0 #22 December 2, 2007 I'm thinking it may have been Lynx, which had to shell out of DOS to operate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RhondaLea 3 #23 December 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo. and Rhonda lee And a whole bunch of others, a fair number of whom are now dead or living lives apart from skydiving. Even so, it was a great group until usenet fell to the web forums. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bozo 0 #24 December 2, 2007 And a whole bunch of others, a fair number of whom are now dead or living lives apart from skydiving. Even so, it was a great group until usenet fell to the web forums. rl Yes it was. I miss it. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cpoxon 0 #25 December 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteI'm pretty sure the below attachment shows the very beginning of rec.skydiving No, actually. :) The beginning is here, in 1988: ftp://ftp.afn.org/skydive/rec.skydiving.archives/ Someone should maybe talk to these guys about this, because the Skydive! Archive site is down now, and there's no telling how long the ftp site will last. It would be a shame to lose the history if someone has a place to store it. (Note: I've got the whole mess downloaded, but that's not the same thing. And I haven't bothered to get the other stuff, like the dropzone reviews.) archive.org has the Skydive! Archive here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.afn.org/skydive/ ...but the posts from the the ftp site aren't collected, although the posts from '93 to '96 are: http://web.archive.org/web/20020501075208/www.afn.org/skydive/usenet/ Hey RhondaLea, I took the archives, put them in a searchable and threaded database, registered the domain name recskydiving.org and hosted it from home. I've since moved to an external host who's database space is a bit more frugal and it would cost me about $20 a month to host the data. Does anyone have a spare 150 MB of SQL Server space to spare (I guess it could be MySql with a bit of conversion)? 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2fat2fly 0 #2 November 30, 2007 But I miss Treetop and the Wreck was how I was introduced to Revjim-there were some good things back whenI am not the man. But the man knows my name...and he's worried Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #3 November 30, 2007 "Blast Handles - Wave of the future" Wow... who would have thought it.... Thanks for the look back in time. I was on rec.skydiving from I guess 1995 or 1996 through about 2003 before I started up on here. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 6 #4 November 30, 2007 Quote "Blast Handles - Wave of the future" Wow... who would have thought it.... Thanks for the look back in time. I was on rec.skydiving from I guess 1995 or 1996 through about 2003 before I started up on here. I didn't even HAVE the internet back then... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #5 November 30, 2007 We were already very witty back in those days. I like this one . . . NickD Newsgroups: net.rec.skydive From: [email protected] (Gary Hansen) Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 15:59:11 EDT Local: Mon, Apr 30 1984 11:59 am Subject: altitude Remember boys and girls, it is now altitude savings time, set your altimeters up 1000'. Gary Hansen D7703 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #6 November 30, 2007 Thats pretty damn funny 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #7 November 30, 2007 Quote We were already very witty back in those days. I like this one . . . NickD Newsgroups: net.rec.skydive From: [email protected] (Gary Hansen) Date: Mon, 30-Apr-84 15:59:11 EDT Local: Mon, Apr 30 1984 11:59 am Subject: altitude Remember boys and girls, it is now altitude savings time, set your altimeters up 1000'. Gary Hansen D7703 I know somebody who did that in the plane at Quincy years ago going up to 21K. He got low enough to actually see people walking on the ground before realizing he was LOW! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jsaxton 0 #8 November 30, 2007 what's even funnier is that the message was delivered via UUCP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #9 December 1, 2007 Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #10 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,673 #11 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #12 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. Man I forgot all about Snuffy! What a weird character! Whatever happened to him? Peanut seemed to try and copy Snuffy's way of speaking but nobody can lisp like Snuffy. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #13 December 1, 2007 >>SnuffyThe orginal Master Chief . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #14 December 1, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo. In that respect....Professor Kallend also. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #15 December 1, 2007 I sure would like to read that "Life After Skydiving" thread.Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #16 December 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo. and Rhonda leeYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 5 #17 December 2, 2007 I peeked in there a bit and claimed that there was a problem with the number of jump plane accidents. Someone said I had no proof or list of jump plane accidents. Whoever that was THANK YOU! I think my list is pretty long now. 100s of hours looking but I think it's fairly complete. So it wasn't a complete waste of time on the wreck.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #18 December 2, 2007 QuoteI'm pretty sure the below attachment shows the very beginning of rec.skydiving No, actually. :) The beginning is here, in 1988: ftp://ftp.afn.org/skydive/rec.skydiving.archives/ Someone should maybe talk to these guys about this, because the Skydive! Archive site is down now, and there's no telling how long the ftp site will last. It would be a shame to lose the history if someone has a place to store it. (Note: I've got the whole mess downloaded, but that's not the same thing. And I haven't bothered to get the other stuff, like the dropzone reviews.) archive.org has the Skydive! Archive here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.afn.org/skydive/ ...but the posts from the the ftp site aren't collected, although the posts from '93 to '96 are: http://web.archive.org/web/20020501075208/www.afn.org/skydive/usenet/If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveJack 1 #19 December 2, 2007 I didn't even HAVE the internet back then... There are posters here who weren't even born then.! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #20 December 2, 2007 QuoteThe beginning is here, in 1988: I first got online back in 1989 using Prodigy I recall. I don't recall the browser, it was not a Windows operating system software program. I believe the software program was developed in Canada for DOS although I don't recall the name now. It was not a part of the Prodigy program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #21 December 2, 2007 That's about the time I was using Prodigy with Geoworks."safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeepDiver 0 #22 December 2, 2007 I'm thinking it may have been Lynx, which had to shell out of DOS to operate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 3 #23 December 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote t’s nothing but a big spamfest. and binaries. Dont forget Snuffy and Peanut. And Bozo. and Rhonda lee And a whole bunch of others, a fair number of whom are now dead or living lives apart from skydiving. Even so, it was a great group until usenet fell to the web forums. rlIf you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #24 December 2, 2007 And a whole bunch of others, a fair number of whom are now dead or living lives apart from skydiving. Even so, it was a great group until usenet fell to the web forums. rl Yes it was. I miss it. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #25 December 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteI'm pretty sure the below attachment shows the very beginning of rec.skydiving No, actually. :) The beginning is here, in 1988: ftp://ftp.afn.org/skydive/rec.skydiving.archives/ Someone should maybe talk to these guys about this, because the Skydive! Archive site is down now, and there's no telling how long the ftp site will last. It would be a shame to lose the history if someone has a place to store it. (Note: I've got the whole mess downloaded, but that's not the same thing. And I haven't bothered to get the other stuff, like the dropzone reviews.) archive.org has the Skydive! Archive here: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.afn.org/skydive/ ...but the posts from the the ftp site aren't collected, although the posts from '93 to '96 are: http://web.archive.org/web/20020501075208/www.afn.org/skydive/usenet/ Hey RhondaLea, I took the archives, put them in a searchable and threaded database, registered the domain name recskydiving.org and hosted it from home. I've since moved to an external host who's database space is a bit more frugal and it would cost me about $20 a month to host the data. Does anyone have a spare 150 MB of SQL Server space to spare (I guess it could be MySql with a bit of conversion)? Rest assured, the old stuff is archived somewhere!Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
