JoeyH 0 #1 October 15, 2013 Just for curiosity sake.... What is a safe/okay wing loading for a student or lower level A license jumper. Just for shits and giggles, lets use the Sabre 2 for an example canopy. I don't want an answer like "Younger jumpers shouldn't be jumping this canopy" ect ect.... Just entertain the question. I just want to hear the opinions out there. This isn't for any real world purpose, just curious what ya think.Carpe Diem, even if it kills me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkycndo 0 #2 October 15, 2013 Basic rule. Under 1:1 when under 100 jumps. Add 0.1 for each 100 jumps there after. So say he. 50 donations so far. Give it a try. You know you want to spank it Jump an Infinity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #3 October 15, 2013 From what I see, they usually seem to start out sub-1:1 (.75 or .8 to 1) and work their way down to 1:1 as the instructor determines they can handle it. How quickly they downsize depends on how the student and instructor feel about it. Most people seem to stick to 1:1 or a little less at least until they get their A. I'm loading at a hair under 1.1:1 at a couple hundred jumps in and have no intention to change it anytime soon. I like to poke along and look at the scenery. If anything I wouldn't mind coming down slower. Or not at all. I could just slap a paraglider in my rig and fly to the next airport over...I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeyo 1 #4 October 15, 2013 What they say, but it doesnt apply with smaller canopies... 1:1 on a 190 is not the same as 1:1 on a 120HISPA #93 DS #419.5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #5 October 15, 2013 monkycndo Basic rule. Under 1:1 when under 100 jumps. Add 0.1 for each 100 jumps there after. So say he. This is the safe side of things and the way I'd personally recommend it, too.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #6 October 15, 2013 Sabre2 230Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakflyer9999 1 #7 October 15, 2013 Performance Designs recommendations for the Sabre 2 are here: http://performancedesigns.com/sabre2.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #8 October 15, 2013 Keep in mind that your canopy choice should also factor in potential density altitude and the DZ's elevation more so than just calculating wing-load out to 4 decimal places... Mile-Hi on a hot, dry day is like landing your canopy at 7-8000ft and a cool day it's still over 5000ft. The same canopy at say Spaceland (50ft MSL) or Elsinore (1250ft MSL) will fly like a boat when compared to landing it at Mile-Hi or a scorching hot afternoon in Eloy. As to the OP's question, generally speaking a bigger Sabre 2 (anything 170 and up) will be quite docile when loaded around 1:1. Something like a Pulse, Spectre, or similar is going to be even more mellow at the same loading...NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,340 #9 October 15, 2013 Brian Germain has a very good wingload limts chart for all experience levels and sizes of jumpers. It addresses smaller and larger jumpers and the effects of that on wingloading (a very small person shouldn't be under a very small canopy, even at 1:1). It's a good place to start. You can find it as a sticky in the canopy/swooping forum."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #10 October 15, 2013 It depends on your weight and your physical condition. What I can tell you so far is that the Sabre 2 is an all purposes canopy. It can be used for advanced jumpers at loading (1.2 to 1.5) but at some DZ, it is currently used at lower loading like 0.8 to 1.2 for advanced students and even very beginners at loading 0.8. Moreover, the Sabre 2 provides you with a very good flare.Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #11 October 15, 2013 mattjw916Keep in mind that your canopy choice should also factor in potential density altitude and the DZ's elevation more so than just calculating wing-load out to 4 decimal places... Mile-Hi on a hot, dry day is like landing your canopy at 7-8000ft and a cool day it's still over 5000ft. The same canopy at say Spaceland (50ft MSL) or Elsinore (1250ft MSL) will fly like a boat when compared to landing it at Mile-Hi or a scorching hot afternoon in Eloy. As to the OP's question, generally speaking a bigger Sabre 2 (anything 170 and up) will be quite docile when loaded around 1:1. Something like a Pulse, Spectre, or similar is going to be even more mellow at the same loading... Ooh, good point. My safire2/230 is probably going to fly like a school bus whenever I get around to visiting sea level.I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
