Socialist nightmare?

[airdvr 197]

Stop it...

[SkyDekker 1,123]

On 6/29/2019 at 8:34 PM, BIGUN said:

What I said was the, "semi-presidential representative democratic republic" of Portugal as your go-to example demonstrates a true lack of political and socio-economic understanding. You are placing that "look a good thing" right up their with the same forms of government as Russia, China, Syria, Palestine, etc"

Since you stubbornly believe that a democracy could never be socialist, there isn't much I am going to say that will convince you otherwise. Actually, I am pretty sure that whatever I will say, will just cause you to entrench further. Enjoy.

[billvon 2,400]

15 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

 

Why would you need to increase taxes?

Just defund the military.

Our deficit is $800 billion.  Total military spending is $600 billion.  We could cut the military to nothing and still be adding hundreds of billions in debt every year.

(And this is during a bull market.  Imagine what will happen during the next recession.)

[CygnusX-1 42]

35 minutes ago, billvon said:

and still be adding hundreds of billions in debt every year.

Which is why we need to cut more spending. Need to eliminate regulatory commissions. Freeze spending on NASA, who needs space travel anyway when we has such problems at home. And besides look at SpaceX - the private sector does it much better anyway. Get rid of the ATF. When was the last time you heard anything good come from the CDC? Gone! FDA doesn't do anything - eliminate them too. EPA? Without their meddling we would have much more big beautiful waters and clean air. Stop wasting all that money on SNAP type programs. Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. If you can't afford to pay our own way at a hospital or get drugs (which are now going to be much cheaper since we eliminated the FDA), then just die already. You are no good to society anyway. But whatever you do, don't ever touch my taxes or eliminate my subsidies for electric vehicles and solar panels. 

[billvon 2,400]

1 minute ago, CygnusX-1 said:

Which is why we need to cut more spending. Need to eliminate regulatory commissions. Freeze spending on NASA, who needs space travel anyway when we has such problems at home. And besides look at SpaceX - the private sector does it much better anyway. Get rid of the ATF. When was the last time you heard anything good come from the CDC? Gone! FDA doesn't do anything - eliminate them too. EPA? Without their meddling we would have much more big beautiful waters and clean air. Stop wasting all that money on SNAP type programs. Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid.

Hey - get your government hands off my Medicare!

[airdvr 197]

1 hour ago, billvon said:

Our deficit is $800 billion.  Total military spending is $600 billion.  We could cut the military to nothing and still be adding hundreds of billions in debt every year.

(And this is during a bull market.  Imagine what will happen during the next recession.)

Defund the military and watch our economy tank.

[billvon 2,400]

6 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Defund the military and watch our economy tank.

Defund almost anything and watch our economy tank.  Unfortunate that we have put ourselves in a situation where we have to spend more and more just to stay afloat.  Not surprising, though, given that the average US household is $140,000 in debt.  For Americans it is becoming a way of life.  And it will work - until it doesn't.

There are a lot of republicans out there praying that Trump loses, so that they have someone to blame when the economy tanks - and they can't borrow any more for stimulus.

[airdvr 197]

12 hours ago, billvon said:

 Not surprising, though, given that the average US household is $140,000 in debt.  For Americans it is becoming a way of life.  And it will work - until it doesn't.

I'm assuming this would include a home mortgage.  Not a shocking number if it does.

[turtlespeed 212]

5 hours ago, airdvr said:

I'm assuming this would include a home mortgage.  Not a shocking number if it does.

You should try the average in San Francisco.

That is a hot bed of leftist thinking, right?

Edited July 3, 2019 by turtlespeed

[kallend 1,623]

31 minutes ago, turtlespeed said:

You should try the average in San Francisco.

That is a hot bed of leftist thinking, right?

Has the law of supply and demand been repealed in your world?

[billvon 2,400]

3 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

You should try the average in San Francisco.

That is a hot bed of leftist thinking, right?

And one of the strongest economies in the country - with a consequent high demand for real estate, by people with lots of money.

(Interestingly, when you ignore mortgages, young people in San Jose have one of the LOWEST debt burden in the country.  Something to be said for living where you make tons of money, even if it's a "hotbed of leftist thinking" eh?)

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2018/09/11/millennials-san-jose-debt-burden-study-lendingree.html

[BIGUN 1,053]

20 hours ago, billvon said:

Interestingly, when you ignore mortgages, young people in San Jose have one of the LOWEST debt burden in the country.

If I can't afford any more debt after my mortgage; then of course my non-mortgage debt is going to be lower. 

[BIGUN 1,053]

On 7/2/2019 at 10:55 AM, billvon said:

Our deficit is $800 billion.  Total military spending is $600 billion.  We could cut the military to nothing and still be adding hundreds of billions in debt every year.

Defund the military $600 Billion

No military = no veterans = no VA - another $200 billion a year. 

Done!!! Next!! 

[turtlespeed 212]

On 7/4/2019 at 9:05 AM, BIGUN said:

Defund the military $600 Billion

No military = no veterans = no VA - another $200 billion a year. 

Done!!! Next!! 

OK - So no VA - Less government employees . . . Next!

[airdvr 197]

On 7/3/2019 at 12:32 PM, billvon said:

(Interestingly, when you ignore mortgages, young people in San Jose have one of the LOWEST debt burden in the country.  Something to be said for living where you make tons of money, even if it's a "hotbed of leftist thinking" eh?)

 

Please.  How about there's no place for the average US Citizen to live in the area so the debt numbers are skewed.

[billvon 2,400]

26 minutes ago, airdvr said:

Please.  How about there's no place for the average US Citizen to live in the area so the debt numbers are skewed.

There's no place for the average US citizen to live in the upscale areas of most large cities.  (At least without living two to a room or something.)  Capitalism in action.

[BIGUN 1,053]

13 hours ago, billvon said:

average US citizen to live in the upscale areas

I'm not sure that "average" correlates to "upscale" anywhere. 

[turtlespeed 212]

On 7/9/2019 at 12:26 PM, BIGUN said:

I'm not sure that "average" correlates to "upscale" anywhere. 

How could it?  You haven't finished redistributing the monies yet.

Edited July 11, 2019 by turtlespeed
Should have used the "Royal You"

[BIGUN 1,053]

12 hours ago, turtlespeed said:

How could it?  You haven't finished redistributing the monies yet.

Well, I guess I'm just going to have to wait until someone does that. 

[turtlespeed 212]

12 hours ago, BIGUN said:

Well, I guess I'm just going to have to wait until someone does that. 

Its fun to think about for some - but when it comes to their personal finances - I doubt they'd take the hit.