Andy9o8 0 #26 December 19, 2013 Interesting Washington Post article explaining, in some detail, the US govt's side of the story. It gives some initial pause in accepting India's perspective and version of facts at face value. The complete story is clearly not out yet, but in fairness, this side should be read in its entirety: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us-attorney-vows-to-pursue-case-against-indian-diplomat-at-center-of-us-india-row/2013/12/19/81764c1c-68c5-11e3-8b5b-a77187b716a3_story.html?hpid=z4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #27 December 19, 2013 Verry Innterresting ... Take away her cow piss shampoo, & throw her in the can for a few years. Only then, should India be allowed to recall her spoiled Butt. Kerry better shut up. The Dems could lose their majority if this bitch is allowed to walk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 December 19, 2013 davjohns India is mad because someone of her caste is not subjected to arrest in India. They expect Americans to treat her the same. In India, someone of the maid's caste is not expected to demand better work conditions. India expects America to put the maid in her place. I read that she is actually of the Untouchables caste. But apparently feeling above it, now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #29 December 19, 2013 PiLFy Verry Innterresting ... Take away her cow piss shampoo, & throw her in the can for a few years. Only then, should India be allowed to recall her spoiled Butt. Kerry better shut up. The Dems could lose their majority if this bitch is allowed to walk. Just be glad she wasn't a Muslim. NYC could be under lockdown and BHO would be hiding in some underground North American Air Defense Command bunker out west.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 256 #30 December 20, 2013 rickjump1 *** Verry Innterresting ... Take away her cow piss shampoo, & throw her in the can for a few years. Only then, should India be allowed to recall her spoiled Butt. Kerry better shut up. The Dems could lose their majority if this bitch is allowed to walk. Just be glad she wasn't a Muslim. NYC could be under lockdown and BHO would be hiding in some underground North American Air Defense Command bunker out west. I thought Obama was a muslim and therefore working with her?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #31 December 20, 2013 I thought Obama was a muslim and therefore working with her? *** shhhhh, its a secret!They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davjohns 1 #32 December 20, 2013 Andy9o8I agree w/you generally, w/one possible qualification: the LEOs knew - presumably prior to her arrest - that she was part of a diplomatic mission. And as you pointed out, this was in NYC, where's there's some sophistication about that, as well as the potential political sensitivity. So I wonder whether they did the diligence to check into her diplomatic status before they arrested her. Etc., etc.... Sheer guesswork on my part, but I suspect there was a message in there. The maid tried to get better conditions. India arrested her husband and child. The US publicly arrested the employer / diplomat. It looks to me as if the US and India were playing a game and India pressed the 'WAR' button. It may blow up in their face. When it is made clear what the 'strip search' and 'cavity search' were, this may become a debate on the Indian caste system. Or, it could fade away. It isn't a good battle for either side. I would hope that the US had tried to work with the Indian Embassy to resolve this before the arrest. I would hope that she was asked to surrender herself first. It's not required. But as you point out, there are sensitivities involved.I know it just wouldnt be right to kill all the stupid people that we meet.. But do you think it would be appropriate to just remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #33 January 2, 2014 Here's a strong argument from the attorney for the domestic worker in this case that the US's actions were legal (she didn't have diplomatic immunity, only consular immunity, which doesn't apply here) and that India's approach to this recurring problem - not just in this case, but in others - is contemptible. Bears reading in its entirety. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/diplomats-who-commit-domestic-worker-crimes-shouldnt-get-a-free-pass/2014/01/01/61b750b6-719d-11e3-9389-09ef9944065e_story.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #34 January 2, 2014 Rule #1 : America is always in the right. Rule n : In the unlikely event of a suspected infringement of any rule for #2 onward, please refer to Rule #1. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 0 #35 January 2, 2014 shropshireRule #1 : America is always in the right. Rule n : In the unlikely event of a suspected infringement of any rule for #2 onward, please refer to Rule #1. Sound byte. Doesn't really advance the discussion, which is about consular immunity vs. diplomatic immunity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consular_immunity QuoteConsular immunity privileges are described in the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations of 1963 (VCCR).[1][2] Consular immunity offers protections similar to diplomatic immunity, but these protections are not as extensive, given the functional differences between consular and diplomatic officers. For example, consular officers are not accorded absolute immunity from a host country’s criminal jurisdiction, they may be tried for certain local crimes upon action by a local court, and are immune from local jurisdiction only in cases directly relating to consular functions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #36 January 2, 2014 That's cuz I don't know anything about them there things... I knows about taking the piss out of bullies and the USA is most assuredly one of them. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #37 January 3, 2014 shropshire That's cuz I don't know anything about them there things... I knows about taking the piss out of bullies and the USA is most assuredly one of them. Why wouldn't you want to take the piss out of human traffickers like this Indian woman? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #38 January 3, 2014 shropshire That's cuz I don't know anything about them there things... I knows about taking the piss out of bullies and the USA is most assuredly one of them. AH . . . so you DO want us to give you a swirly.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #39 January 3, 2014 shropshire That's cuz I don't know anything about them there things... I knows about taking the piss out of bullies and the USA is most assuredly one of them. You've got a short memory. TheUK was quite the global bully for hundreds of years. Get off your high horse, & look in the mirror. If you'd observe the obvious disconnect between US citizens, & our totally out of control govt. That would be nice, too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #40 January 3, 2014 No need for any mirrors here... It was the past but more importantly IT WASN'T ME - so I couldn't give a shit (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiLFy 0 #41 January 3, 2014 shropshire No need for any mirrors here... It was the past but more importantly IT WASN'T ME - so I couldn't give a shit Here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4581656;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Would you like some Mustard w/that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #42 January 3, 2014 Fixed the subject for you. Funny how things change when you wait for facts to come out, isn't it?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
