The BEST parts of the Government Shut down

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billvon

>Check Ohio.

Check!

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Fraud just a tiny blip of 2012 vote
By Joe Vardon
The Columbus Dispatch Friday May 24, 2013 6:34 AM

Secretary of State Jon Husted said his office did not find evidence of a single instance of voter suppression in Ohio.

0.002397 percent.

That’s how much voter fraud there was in Ohio last year, according to a report released yesterday by Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted. Out of about 5.63 million votes cast in a presidential election in this key swing state, there were 135 possible voter-fraud cases referred to law enforcement for more investigation.
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Looks like you'll need to spin pretty hard to claim that that is "disenfranchising" you.

>Self destruct?

I'd say so. A group of GOP lawmakers is telling the public "to hell with democracy, we' refuse to do our jobs until we get our way, even if it means that means hurting Americans." The more responsible members of the GOP are telling them they're crazy, and they should do their jobs. When you have your own party telling you you're crazy, and the leaders of the party can't even hold it together - self destruction pretty imminent.

Republicans are all about how great private industry is. If you ran a business, and several of your managers simply refused to do their jobs - would you keep them?

COLUMBUS – Secretary of State Jon Husted today released the first ever statewide report on voter fraud based on a review of cases by Ohio’s 88 county boards of elections and the Secretary of State’s office following the 2012 Presidential Election.
“This report demonstrates that voter fraud does exist; but it is not an epidemic,” Secretary Husted said. “More importantly, our effort to look into irregularities and root out voter fraud sends a strong message that no amount of fraud is acceptable. If you cheat, you will be caught and held accountable.”

OK, Bill. It not an epidemic, but in Ohio, it's still there. Can you say the same for Chicago or New York?

Going to hell with democracy? What's so democratic about the US Government forcing its citizens to get involved with healthcare/socialized medicine? Haven't you heard, the US Government has failed in most of its private endeavors like Amtrack and the Postal Service? Did they expect us to roll over and play dead? It is not going to happen.


Refusing to do a job in this economic climate? Sure, in private enterprise you're gone, but not so for federal employees. It's a cold hard fact, government employees are virtually untouchable.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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billvon

>Looting the US Treasury with no hope in sight, is bad for the morale of the taxpayers.

Shutting down the US government because you didn't get your way is even worse.

Nope. There is a point you don't spend more than you bring in. Even a bubble gum chewing 18 year old bank teller knows she will be gone at the end of the day if her books don't balance.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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>Even a bubble gum chewing 18 year old bank teller knows she will be gone at the
>end of the day if her books don't balance.

Unless she's a Republican. Then she can just refuse to do her job and the GOP would tell everyone what a hero she was.

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billvon

>Even a bubble gum chewing 18 year old bank teller knows she will be gone at the
>end of the day if her books don't balance.

Unless she's a Republican. Then she can just refuse to do her job and the GOP would tell everyone what a hero she was.

I take it your wife handles the check book.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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>I take it your wife handles the check book.

Nope. You wouldn't approve of her anyway; she works.

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turtlespeed

***>Maybe everyone isn't the same as you.

They're definitely not (fortunately!) but the basic sentiments are pretty common:
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October 1, 2013 - American Voters Reject GOP Shutdown Strategy 3-1, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Dems Up 9 Points In 2014 Congressional Races
PDF format

American voters oppose 72 - 22 percent Congress shutting down the federal government to block implementation of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

Voters also oppose 64 - 27 percent blocking an increase in the nation's debt ceiling as a way to stop Obamacare, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.
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Which Voters?

All the people that I have discussed this with, save my GF, are for it.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1958

"From September 23 - 29, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,497 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.5 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.

The Quinnipiac University Poll, directed by Douglas Schwartz, Ph.D., conducts public opinion surveys in Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Virginia and the nation as a public service and for research. "


"Republicans support the federal government shutdown by a narrow 49 - 44 percent margin, but opposition is 90 - 6 percent among Democrats and 74 - 19 percent among independent voters. "

Even the righties are BARELY with you.


just ETA: your gf sounds cool, if you ever really piss her off by making a big scene over a toasted ravioli or cheese stick you order that she eats, and she dumps you, give her my DZ.com name.

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Bignugget

just ETA: your gf sounds cool, if you ever really piss her off by making a big scene over a toasted ravioli or cheese stick you order that she eats, and she dumps you, give her my DZ.com name.

What if your boyfriend read this post? Don't you think he'd be upset that you're two-timing him? You better lock your computer at night!

"Are you coming to the party?
Oh I'm coming, but I won't be there!"
Flying Hellfish #828
Dudist #52

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billvon

>Even a bubble gum chewing 18 year old bank teller knows she will be gone at the
>end of the day if her books don't balance.

Unless she's a Republican. Then she can just refuse to do her job and the GOP would tell everyone what a hero she was.

They are not doing their job the way you want them to.
They ARE doing their job the way I want them to.

It is unfortunate that they have to do it this way.

They are still doing their job.
They are providing checks and balances.
THAT is their job.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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The BEST part is hearing the absurd statements about the shutdown made by GOP members of the Congress:

“We’re not going to be disrespected,” Rep. Marlin Stutzman of Indiana told the Washington Examiner. “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is.”



“This is not just about Obamacare anymore,” Rep. Michael Grimm, (R) Staten Island, N.Y.

“We’re very excited. It’s exactly what we wanted, and we got it.” Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota

“It’s wonderful,” said Rep. John Abney Culberson of Texas.

“I will credit my father, he invented -- this wasn't for the restaurant, but he did it anyway -- green eggs and ham." Sen. Ted Cruz, during his filibuster.

“It’s a little bit like the World Wrestling Federation. It’s wrestling matches where … the outcome is pre-rigged, the outcome is predetermined. They know who’s going to win and it’s all for show.” Sen. Ted Cruz

“Twenty years from now if there is some obscure trivial pursuits question, I am confident I will be the answer.” Sen. Ted Cruz

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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And let us not forget these wonderful quotes

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/doves-and-peaceniks-no-more-these-democrats-relish/

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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rushmc

And let us not forget these wonderful quotes

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/doves-and-peaceniks-no-more-these-democrats-relish/

Thank you for those quotes that show the GOP as the party of liars and hypocrites as well as the Party of Stupid

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

***And let us not forget these wonderful quotes

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/doves-and-peaceniks-no-more-these-democrats-relish/

Thank you for those quotes that show the GOP as the party of liars and hypocrites as well as the Party of Stupid

Yes
You are very hypocritical

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dorsey/white-house-press-secretary-and-fox-news-reporter-argued-ove

Remember when Abby Gifford got shot?


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/04/us/politics/furloughs-alter-routines-for-presidents-staff.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=0

and of course we cant alow the truth to alter public perceptions. Like, did you hear about the military base gocery store being closed but, since this is where Obama golfs, the course is open?
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/03/grocery-stores-army-bases-closed-obamas-golf-course-open

Or how about Obama trying to make this worse than it is?
http://www.infowars.com/barrycades-government-tries-to-shut-down-privately-owned-mount-vernon/

Yes John
We all know about you and your tingley leg problems

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Don't forget to call Republicans anarchists and terrorists. Seems that's standard operating procedure for your ilk these days.

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Gravitymaster

Don't forget to call Republicans anarchists and terrorists. Seems that's standard operating procedure for your ilk these days.

Not terrorists. But anarchists; if you say so I have to agree.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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kallend

***Don't forget to call Republicans anarchists and terrorists. Seems that's standard operating procedure for your ilk these days.

Not terrorists. But anarchists; if you say so I have to agree.

I thought you understood English.

an·ar·chy [an-er-kee] Show IPA
noun
1.
a state of society without government or law.
2.
political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy. Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
3.
anarchism ( def 1 ) .
4.
lack of obedience to an authority; insubordination: the anarchy of his rebellious teenage years.
5.
confusion and disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith. It was impossible to find the book I was looking for in the anarchy of his bookshelves. Synonyms: chaos, disruption, turbulence; license; disorganization, disintegration.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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linebckr83

I see some irony in your post.

"It's much easier to be a hapless victim than to actually do something about it."

Sounds an awful lot like the welfare folk wouldn't you agree?

The welfare folk are mostly comprised of liberals wouldn't you agree? Seems hypocritical to call conservatives the victims.

I agree!!!

Just yesterday we had one of the biggest liberals on this site, Ron, complain about how his friend's welfare cheque wouldn't really cover her costs anymore and was blaming Obama for it.

Obama is Republican right?

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SkyDekker

***I see some irony in your post.

"It's much easier to be a hapless victim than to actually do something about it."

Sounds an awful lot like the welfare folk wouldn't you agree?

The welfare folk are mostly comprised of liberals wouldn't you agree? Seems hypocritical to call conservatives the victims.

I agree!!!

Just yesterday we had one of the biggest liberals on this site, Ron, complain about how his friend's welfare cheque wouldn't really cover her costs anymore and was blaming Obama for it.

Obama is Republican right?

I think you are lacking in knowledge. I do believe that you don't understand what the difference between something that you pay into and something that is given to you.

But then that doesn't surprise me.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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SkyDekker

***I see some irony in your post.

"It's much easier to be a hapless victim than to actually do something about it."

Sounds an awful lot like the welfare folk wouldn't you agree?

The welfare folk are mostly comprised of liberals wouldn't you agree? Seems hypocritical to call conservatives the victims.

I agree!!!

Just yesterday we had one of the biggest liberals on this site, Ron, complain about how his friend's welfare cheque wouldn't really cover her costs anymore and was blaming Obama for it.

Obama is Republican right? Maybe this will help. Liberalism: Moochers Electing Looters to Steal From Producers.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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turtlespeed

******I see some irony in your post.

"It's much easier to be a hapless victim than to actually do something about it."

Sounds an awful lot like the welfare folk wouldn't you agree?

The welfare folk are mostly comprised of liberals wouldn't you agree? Seems hypocritical to call conservatives the victims.

I agree!!!

Just yesterday we had one of the biggest liberals on this site, Ron, complain about how his friend's welfare cheque wouldn't really cover her costs anymore and was blaming Obama for it.

Obama is Republican right?

I think you are lacking in knowledge. I do believe that you don't understand what the difference between something that you pay into and something that is given to you.

But then that doesn't surprise me.

Interesting.

So, that cheque she gets is from the money she paid previously?

Or is her money long gone and is the cheque she gets financed by those paying into it now?

In socialist Canada we give it to CPP, who then actually invest the money and more or less have to live by the rules governing Pension Funds to ensure adequate reserves are kept.

How does that work in the US? You guys must have a significantly better system than us commie socialists.

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SkyDekker

*********I see some irony in your post.

"It's much easier to be a hapless victim than to actually do something about it."

Sounds an awful lot like the welfare folk wouldn't you agree?

The welfare folk are mostly comprised of liberals wouldn't you agree? Seems hypocritical to call conservatives the victims.

I agree!!!

Just yesterday we had one of the biggest liberals on this site, Ron, complain about how his friend's welfare cheque wouldn't really cover her costs anymore and was blaming Obama for it.

Obama is Republican right?

I think you are lacking in knowledge. I do believe that you don't understand what the difference between something that you pay into and something that is given to you.

But then that doesn't surprise me.

Interesting.

So, that cheque she gets is from the money she paid previously?

Or is her money long gone and is the cheque she gets financed by those paying into it now?

In socialist Canada we give it to CPP, who then actually invest the money and more or less have to live by the rules governing Pension Funds to ensure adequate reserves are kept.

How does that work in the US? You guys must have a significantly better system than us commie socialists.

Nope - the politicians stole it. Used it for their own lobbyist's wallets and "stimulus" . . . one of the reasons government should be smaller.

I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama
BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun

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turtlespeed

************I see some irony in your post.

"It's much easier to be a hapless victim than to actually do something about it."

Sounds an awful lot like the welfare folk wouldn't you agree?

The welfare folk are mostly comprised of liberals wouldn't you agree? Seems hypocritical to call conservatives the victims.

I agree!!!

Just yesterday we had one of the biggest liberals on this site, Ron, complain about how his friend's welfare cheque wouldn't really cover her costs anymore and was blaming Obama for it.

Obama is Republican right?

I think you are lacking in knowledge. I do believe that you don't understand what the difference between something that you pay into and something that is given to you.

But then that doesn't surprise me.

Interesting.

So, that cheque she gets is from the money she paid previously?

Or is her money long gone and is the cheque she gets financed by those paying into it now?

In socialist Canada we give it to CPP, who then actually invest the money and more or less have to live by the rules governing Pension Funds to ensure adequate reserves are kept.

How does that work in the US? You guys must have a significantly better system than us commie socialists.

Nope - the politicians stole it. Used it for their own lobbyist's wallets and "stimulus" . . . one of the reasons government should be smaller.

In that case Ron's friend wouldn't be getting any money. Why do you hate Ron so much?

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>Liberalism: Moochers Electing Looters to Steal From Producers.

Not a nice thing to say about RonD.

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billvon

>Liberalism: Moochers Electing Looters to Steal From Producers.

Not a nice thing to say about RonD.

You don't remember what Turtlespeed said? "I think you are lacking in knowledge. I do believe that you don't understand what the difference between something that you pay into and something that is given to you.

But then that doesn't surprise me."

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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>You don't remember what Turtlespeed said?

Oh, I do - and he is no different from you. Any GOPer deserves his entitlements, anyone else doesn't. You are both quite predictable.

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billvon

>You don't remember what Turtlespeed said?

Oh, I do - and he is no different from you. Any GOPer deserves his entitlements, anyone else doesn't. You are both quite predictable.

I take that as a complement. Gopers? They view entitlements as temporary financial help, and not a life long dependence on the US Government. This is in contrast to moochers who have been on the take as a normal way of life for generations.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.