Kennedy 0 #1 May 13, 2013 So tell me again how nobody in government is out to confiscate legally owned firearms. QuoteSenators Caught on Tape: "Confiscate, Confiscate, Confiscate" “We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate," said an unknown voice. Weinberg said she had no idea who said confiscate or in what context, or if it was even a lawmaker. The next voice, which is clearly Weinberg, said, “They want to keep the guns out of the hands of the bad guys, but they don’t have any regulations to do it." Next up was Cunningham: “They don’t care about the bad guys. All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them.”witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeteNoire 0 #2 May 13, 2013 Well, they were talking about how to word the bill, so perhaps they were actually saying; "Conjugate! Conjugate! Conjugate!" Just a theory... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lurch 0 #3 May 13, 2013 "All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them.” I know, the NERVE of us lowly serfs, who do we think we are, wanting to retain posession of our own property like that when politicians know whats best for us. We should just obey and render ourselves helpless like they tell us to. Rights? Ink on a page... we've got an agenda here! -BLive and learn... or die, and teach by example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #4 May 13, 2013 KennedySo tell me again how nobody in government is out to confiscate legally owned firearms. QuoteSenators Caught on Tape: "Confiscate, Confiscate, Confiscate" “We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate," said an unknown voice. Weinberg said she had no idea who said confiscate or in what context, or if it was even a lawmaker. The next voice, which is clearly Weinberg, said, “They want to keep the guns out of the hands of the bad guys, but they don’t have any regulations to do it." Next up was Cunningham: “They don’t care about the bad guys. All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them.” Well this we know for sure This has no chance of becoming a credible story until CNN, NBC, ABC or CBS report it (or the Washington (com)Post for that matter but for those of us who pay attention most of the time, this comes as no surprise (it may for a few here but only if the above listed "news" outlets report on this)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolbox 0 #5 May 13, 2013 Some in government were working towards eliminating private gun ownership before WW2,but then reports of Hitler's nazi atrocities spreading across europe with little if any resistance from the people of the invaded countries started getting back to the US. When it was learned that the nazis used the gun registries not just of germany,but of all the other countries they invaded to round up not just the guns,but the gun owners themselves,thus eliminating any resistance to tyranny,many people here in the US feared the same could happen here. The movement to abolish private gun ownership here was crushed. The nazis were socialist by the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 314 #6 May 13, 2013 kind of crazy how the founding fathers foresaw a situation like this almost 200 years before it happened. and i for one am glad they did._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #7 May 13, 2013 sfzombie13kind of crazy how the founding fathers foresaw a situation like this almost 200 years before it happened. and i for one am glad they did. Agreed But no one on the left here (those who say they support private ownership) will agree that the gun grabbers ultimate goal is to take away our guns unles a ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN or NPR reports it Until then it is just fearmongering or the NRA increasing gun sales for their own benifit"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #9 May 13, 2013 toolbox Some in government were working towards eliminating private gun ownership before WW2,but then reports of Hitler's nazi atrocities spreading across europe with little if any resistance from the people of the invaded countries started getting back to the US. When it was learned that the nazis used the gun registries not just of germany,but of all the other countries they invaded to round up not just the guns,but the gun owners themselves,thus eliminating any resistance to tyranny,many people here in the US feared the same could happen here. The movement to abolish private gun ownership here was crushed. The nazis were socialist by the way. this point/argument really gets the gun grabbers panties in a wad That is why I like it so muchThat, and it is true"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #10 May 13, 2013 Not exactly a 47% moment here since there's not enough context or identification of those involved. All of the above said, you guys do realize some gun confiscation is not just legal, but also justified. It's possible the context of the comment in question had to do with the confiscation of weapons from people who aren't allowed to have them in the first place; felons, dangerously mentally ill... Get the full recording and get the full context before buying the line.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 314 #11 May 14, 2013 if that were the case, i am almost sure that would have been announced immediately. they would have put the spin on it. but otherwise, i agree with you, i hate things taken out of context. it seems that is all they do with these stupid sound bites people are spreading over the internet these days._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 May 14, 2013 Did you read the article? Did you notice the link in the second line? It links to a youtube video. It has the recording. It's clear as day that they're upset that NJ didn't go so far as to confiscate legally owned firearms. This is NJ. You think they don't already cover "confiscation of weapons from people who aren't allowed to have them in the first place; felons, dangerously mentally ill... "? Please. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMptQ_YfvzE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4q5yPEFlmI Honestly, this part sickens me. QuoteReached Friday, Weinberg took issue with the gun advocates and the release of the hot mic recording. "The advocates would be much better off not inflaming people," she said. "Nothing in this package of bills 'confiscates.' If people want to inflame folks rather than advocating on the reality of the situation, I can't do anything about it." Asked who used the words "confiscate" on the recording, Weinberg said she has no idea. It could have been a staffer, she said, adding that she has no idea what microphone was still on or who it would have picked up in addition to the three senators. "All I know is it's not my voice and I don't know who said it or in what context." Sure. You're upset that the gun rights people are sharing a conversation that actually happened, and you're upset that THEY are inflaming people. Oh, and you have no idea who you were talking to. Her trying to act like that wasn't a converstation, that she wasn't talking to the speaker, it's just amazing what they think they can lie their way out of. Of course nothing in the bill confiscates guns- THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT. YOU WANT IT TO CONFISCATE GUNS.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #13 May 14, 2013 This is not just "some doundbyte". This is them being caught by a live mic saying what they truly feel, as opposed to their moderated (read: false) point of view. This is another "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in." They just don't want to admit that's their ultimate goal.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #14 May 14, 2013 I don't know what the confusion is. It's been their goal from Day 1 hasn't it?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 18 #15 May 14, 2013 popsjumperI don't know what the confusion is. It's been their goal from Day 1 hasn't it? Some things never change"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 May 14, 2013 popsjumperI don't know what the confusion is. It's been their goal from Day 1 hasn't it? I think so, but not according to them. Nowadays you hear "Nobody Wants To Take Your Guns" over and over. All about how they" respect the second amendment". Then they slip and say what they really mean.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites