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Quote...arrogance of man and his inability to reach God or to.....
I have no trouble believing that - makes we wonder why people still try to 'reach God'
Coreece 190
QuoteQuote"For as the rain and snow come down from heaven and do not return there without watering the earth..."
See, that's not so vague
No, that's not particularly vague. Unfortunately though, you don't get to win any science points for noticing that rain falls downwards
Perhaps you missed the part about it going back upwards?
btw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
quade 3
Quotebtw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
There are a number of people that believe the story itself is an allusion to the apple in the Eden myth. Think about it.
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Coreece 190
QuoteQuotebtw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
There are a number of people that believe the story itself is an allusion to the apple in the Eden myth. Think about it.
Got anymore of that hippie lettuce?
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
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QuoteQuoteQuotebtw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
There are a number of people that believe the story itself is an allusion to the apple in the Eden myth. Think about it.
Got anymore of that hippie lettuce?
Really? You don't see it? That a young man sitting beneath the "tree of knowledge" is suddenly struck by its fruit and asks the fundamental question, "why?"
Newton was far smarter than you seem to give him credit for. He knew that in a time when religion was never questioned, he would have to concoct a story to ease them into the conversation.
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Coreece 190
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotebtw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
There are a number of people that believe the story itself is an allusion to the apple in the Eden myth. Think about it.
Got anymore of that hippie lettuce?
Really? You don't see it? That a young man sitting beneath the "tree of knowledge" is suddenly struck by its fruit and asks the fundamental question, "why?"
Newton was far smarter than you seem to give him credit for. He knew that in a time when religion was never questioned, he would have to concoct a story to ease them into the conversation.
So what are you trying to say, that Newton was the talking lying snake?
...and I'm the one who is vague and has an agenda filled with lax interpretive propaganda...go figure.
*edited for spelling and phraseology*
Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are...
QuoteThe application of science has never led anyone to believe that the earth is flat.
The application of science has never come up with a wrong answer. Believe it.
My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239
QuoteQuoteQuote"For as the rain and snow come down from heaven and do not return there without watering the earth..."
See, that's not so vague
No, that's not particularly vague. Unfortunately though, you don't get to win any science points for noticing that rain falls downwards
Perhaps you missed the part about it going back upwards?
btw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
Does the Bible give us mathematical models to predict the exact position, at a given time, of an object in an elliptical orbit around another body that is itself in an elliptical orbit around yet another body?
BTW, the Bible is wrong right from the start. According to the Bible, there was water on the Earth when God created day & night. Unless there was some special water that can exist on the face of a planet made of molten rock......
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
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QuoteAccording to the Bible, there was water on the Earth when God created day & night.
I like how there are "days" before the Sun and Moon (the two lights placed in the sky on the fourth day) exist to mark the days.
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Coreece 190
QuoteDoes the Bible give us mathematical models to predict the exact position, at a given time, of an object in an elliptical orbit around another body that is itself in an elliptical orbit around yet another body?
Of course not...The Bible is big enough without having a bunch of knowledge that is useless for spiritual development.
QuoteBTW, the Bible is wrong right from the start.
Yes, this seems to be the general consensus from all those who were actually there to observe creation.
Most of their reports also tend to be longer than one or two pages...
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Meso 38
Quote***Does the Bible give us mathematical models to predict the exact position, at a given time, of an object in an elliptical orbit around another body that is itself in an elliptical orbit around yet another body?
Of course not...The Bible is big enough without having a bunch of knowledge that is useless for spiritual development.
To fit it in maybe it can cut out some of those Old Testament stories which are supposedly worthless anyway, you know - the stuff about stoning homosexuals and such things.
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jakee 1,257
Quotebtw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
No, Newton gets his points for explaining it.
You may not have noticed, but he didn't simply say "Hey look, an apple. It's a miracle!"
Do you want to have an ideagasm?
QuoteQuoteDoes the Bible give us mathematical models to predict the exact position, at a given time, of an object in an elliptical orbit around another body that is itself in an elliptical orbit around yet another body?
Of course not...The Bible is big enough without having a bunch of knowledge that is useless for spiritual development.
So, if it is for "spritual development", why are you attempting to show the writer(s) understood the complexities of physics long before Newton?QuoteBTW, the Bible is wrong right from the start.
Yes, this seems to be the general consensus from all those who were actually there to observe creation.
Most of their reports also tend to be longer than one or two pages...
Soooo...the Bible was written by those who were there? ok
HAMMER:
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
kallend 1,635
QuoteQuoteQuote"For as the rain and snow come down from heaven and do not return there without watering the earth..."
See, that's not so vague
No, that's not particularly vague. Unfortunately though, you don't get to win any science points for noticing that rain falls downwards
Perhaps you missed the part about it going back upwards?
btw, but Newton gets 100 points and a smiley face sticker for noticing an aplle falling off a tree...
I can only assume from your ignorant comment that you have not read even one page of Principia.
I, on the other hand, have read the Bible, probably more extensively than most Christians, having had 12 years of bible study forced upon me as a child. The bible is a collection of myths and fairy stories and does not contain any science of any value whatsoever.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
kallend 1,635
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"For as the rain and snow come down from heaven and do not return there without watering the earth..."
I guess your god hasn't heard of virga. What an ignorant god you worship.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Meso 38
Haha, well played. 
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QuoteSince science is blind to what it can't measure, those who claim to be "scientists" should refrain from commenting on things they know nothing about, namely God. Likewise those who use the Bible as a science text book are equally wrong. The Bible is a guide to spiritual reality, not physical reality. I don't see any conflict between the two.
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Not certain what is meant by spiritual reality - sounds like a bit of an oxymoron. But I agree with the general premise of it being stories told as lessons on how to live - though it is not the only source for learning how to live.
No problem here with people seeking spiritual guidance; my beef is with the fundies who want to pull BS like putting stickers in text books encouraging quackery as an alternative to the scientific facts teased from nature via painstaking labor of generations of dedicated scientists. They casually waive off the very foundations of physics, chemistry, and biology not because they have any evidence to the contrary; but because it contradicts their dogmatic tautology. That is what brings on the wrath.
Peace be with everyone - but keep the oogie-boogie and propogation of ignorance outside the realm of explaining the natural world.
" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley
The application of science has never led anyone to believe that the earth is flat.
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