masterblaster72 0 #1 August 11, 2009 Been reading a lot of history these days and I thought this would make for an interesting discussion. I know it's not a simple question since being a great commander involves a lot of different aspects of leadership and each leader's circumstances vary. The choices are suggestions, and I'm sure there are plenty that deserve to be on the list. Who do you choose and why? Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #2 August 11, 2009 Sun Tzu How the hell do you leave him off the list? Certainly one of the most studied of all time.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #3 August 11, 2009 QuoteBeen reading a lot of history these days and I thought this would make for an interesting discussion. I know it's not a simple question since being a great commander involves a lot of different aspects of leadership and each leader's circumstances vary. The choices are suggestions, and I'm sure there are plenty that deserve to be on the list. Who do you choose and why? Horatio Nelson... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 August 11, 2009 Joe Stillwell is not on that list. There are many others I can think of. Do you want to limit it to well known names, supreme commanders, generals, or can we include the guys who actually did the dirty work? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #5 August 11, 2009 Quote Joe Stillwell is not on that list. There are many others I can think of. Do you want to limit it to well known names, supreme commanders, generals, or can we include the guys who actually did the dirty work? It DOES say "Commander"... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #6 August 11, 2009 Ok, what about a Section Commander of an infantry unit, commanding 8 to 10 men? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 August 11, 2009 Did anyone ask you? NO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 August 11, 2009 I have a few favorites in that Category. Also David Stirling gets a vote. I also like Charlie Beckwith. He was a great commander. Harold Moore as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 August 11, 2009 Sgt. Labalaba! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #10 August 11, 2009 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 August 11, 2009 My great great grandpa!Even though he fought for the south. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 August 11, 2009 1Lt. Gomez Cpt. Montgomery (Now Commodore) Lt. Burrow GMC Pawlowski Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #13 August 11, 2009 I always liked the technique of winning without fighting. Haile Selassie's genius, also known as Ras Tafari, invited his opponent to a feast in his honor. The guy shows up with several thousand men. While the party is going on HS sends an emissary to the opponents camp and offers to give the troops money for their weapons. (Hinting that there are hookers around.) The army sells their weapons and heads for town. On his return, he finds that he has no army. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #14 August 12, 2009 The list is to small. If we just consider famous commanders through history, what about: Saladin, Attila the Hun, MacArthur, Vo Naguyen Giap, Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson, Ulysses, Dwight David Eisenhower, Rommel, Monty, Churchill, William the Conqueror, Gustavus Adolphus, Robert Bruce, Wallace, etc, etc!! I know who mine is. And he isn't famous. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,400 #15 August 12, 2009 >Did anyone ask you? You did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #16 August 12, 2009 QuoteSun Tzu How the hell do you leave him off the list? Certainly one of the most studied of all time. Seconded. No doubt in my mind. Sun Tzu. Read "The Art of War." It doesn't take too long. His guidance is not just for military but for life in general. I use it in my job constantly. "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #17 August 12, 2009 QuoteThe list is to small. If we just consider famous commanders through history, what about: Saladin, Attila the Hun, MacArthur, Vo Naguyen Giap, Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson, Ulysses, Dwight David Eisenhower, Rommel, Monty, Churchill, William the Conqueror, Gustavus Adolphus, Robert Bruce, Wallace, etc, etc!! I know who mine is. And he isn't famous. Why would you choose to include Ulysses and not Agamemnon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lost_n_confuzd 0 #18 August 12, 2009 George W. Bush! Ok, jokes over. On a serious note I would have to say George Washington. With only six years experience in the military and even less commanding troops; he did one hell of a job. Not to mention that he had nothing to do with the military for 16 years before the revolutionary war started. Talk about a resume gap, lol. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington If it were not for him, we would probably be speaking British right now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #20 August 12, 2009 I suppose he should have included Kenny McCormick, too! My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #21 August 12, 2009 Quote>Did anyone ask you? You did. Wrong I never asked Kallend who was to be included or excluded from the list. I asked the person who posted this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #22 August 12, 2009 QuoteQuote>Did anyone ask you? You did. Wrong I never asked Kallend who was to be included or excluded from the list. I asked the person who posted this thread. Still haven't figured out how open forums work, eh?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 1,623 #23 August 12, 2009 Quote Quote The list is to small. If we just consider famous commanders through history, what about: Saladin, Attila the Hun, MacArthur, Vo Naguyen Giap, Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson, Ulysses, Dwight David Eisenhower, Rommel, Monty, Churchill, William the Conqueror, Gustavus Adolphus, Robert Bruce, Wallace, etc, etc!! I know who mine is. And he isn't famous. Why would you choose to include Ulysses and not Agamemnon? Maybe he meant Ulysses S. Grant.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 August 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote >Did anyone ask you? You did. Wrong I never asked Kallend who was to be included or excluded from the list. I asked the person who posted this thread. Still haven't figured out how open forums work, eh? You just have not figured out how to tell if someone is addressing you. But being the self important person you are, you assume every post is about you.Once again, for the record, I was not addressing you.Your comment was most unwelcome and its only purpose was to antagonize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,053 #25 August 12, 2009 CharlemagneNobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites