warpedskydiver 0 #1 July 20, 2009 http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6700 Pay attention Hear the Lou Dobbs Interview. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #2 July 20, 2009 a different article suggests he is: http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1794057"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #3 July 20, 2009 I'm so glad you've posted this. I love tin-foil hat wearing nut jobs and that article points me to some really insane people I can study. Thanks!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #4 July 20, 2009 not this again. Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 July 20, 2009 It is amazing how quickly others dismiss the case of Obama not being a natural born citizen, but there are valid questions being asked, suits being filed, and millions spent to see that they never reach a court. Listen to the Lou Dobbs section. We ask so much of many other people in order to prove their own birth records, but there are questions that need to be answered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 37 #6 July 20, 2009 QuoteIt is amazing how quickly others dismiss the case of Obama not being a natural born citizen, but there are valid questions being asked, suits being filed, and millions spent to see that they never reach a court. Listen to the Lou Dobbs section. We ask so much of many other people in order to prove their own birth records, but there are questions that need to be answered. The questions have been answered. Its just that some are not listening."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #7 July 20, 2009 Quote . . . but there are valid questions being asked . . . You might wanna check the dictionary for the word "valid".quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 July 20, 2009 QuoteIt is amazing how quickly others dismiss the case of Obama not being a natural born citizen, but there are valid questions being asked, suits being filed, and millions spent to see that they never reach a court. And it's a great way to get out of military service in Afghanistan. All you have to do is question the commander in chief's authority to rule, and rather than prove that he's an American and a legitimate commander in chief, they instead just cancel the soldier's orders so that the soldier no longer has a legal cause to sue. And the Obama birth documents remain top secret. Convenient! Every disgruntled soldier now has an automatic way to get out of overseas deployments, and the Army will just cancel their orders, to protect Obama. "Get out of war free card": http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=104445 "Retired general, lieutenant colonel join reservist’s lawsuit over Obama's birth status" http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/200/story/778482.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 July 20, 2009 You might want to quit dismissing anything that does not fit your political views. http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2009/090715/webonlynews.html Read for a change Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 July 20, 2009 There is really something fishy about a Soldier getting his orders cancelled to avoid a lawsuit that call the presidents birth place into question. Also Ghana has made the comment that the first ever African American President is making his return to the continent of his birth. Is Ghana part of a vast right wing conspiracy? Probably not... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #11 July 20, 2009 they have proved it. Over and over and over again. birth certificate, sworn statements from state records officials in Hawaii...what more do you want? The burden of proof is on the nutjobs who are claiming this ridiculousness. Oh right, i forgot, they guy in charge of Hawaii's records when Obama was born is unavailable due to being in the witness protection program....he was on the grassy knoll. Not saying he fired the shot, but you never know! Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #12 July 20, 2009 QuoteRead for a change I read plenty. I can tell the difference between rational thought and dead-end sore losers grasping at straws. Seriously, for Obama not to have been a citizen, how many people would have to be involved in that little scheme? Did they travel back in time and plant documents in Hawaii? Have they infiltrated BOTH parties that sit on the election committees that verify these things? A person has to be almost insane to think this is even vaguely possible.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #13 July 20, 2009 I think it's kind of screwed up that I have to have a valid birth certificate to get a driver's license here in CT where I just moved, yet it doesn't appear to be necessary to provide one to be president. On on hand I think it's kind of a pointless argument, on the other hand, why not just provide it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #14 July 20, 2009 There has been no Birth Certificate provided. The certificate of a live birth is not a birth certificate. You cannot even use that as a way to get a drivers license. Also there are claims by the Obama administration that he was born in TWO different hospitals. How can that be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #15 July 20, 2009 QuoteOn on hand I think it's kind of a pointless argument, on the other hand, why not just provide it? He has. It appears that's not good enough for some people. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.htmlquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #16 July 20, 2009 Quote http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=6700 Pay attention Hear the Lou Dobbs Interview. INTERESTING that this is coming out now, on the 40th anniversary of mankind walking on the moon. And all the nutjobs are cropping up again saying it was all faked. Oh, and also, the Bush administration engineered the 9/11 attacks. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #17 July 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteRead for a change I read plenty. I can tell the difference between rational thought and dead-end sore losers grasping at straws. Seriously, for Obama not to have been a citizen, how many people would have to be involved in that little scheme? Did they travel back in time and plant documents in Hawaii? Have they infiltrated BOTH parties that sit on the election committees that verify these things? A person has to be almost insane to think this is even vaguely possible. Did you read that Certificate of a Live Birth? It is flat out wrong wording for 1961 A certificate of Live Birth is NOT a Birth Certificate. Try using one to get an ID from the DMV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #18 July 20, 2009 QuoteOn on hand I think it's kind of a pointless argument, on the other hand, why not just provide it? For what it's worth, I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii. I'm equally at a loss to sort out why the standard records, which I'm sure have to exist, aren't being publicized. My theory is that it provides some distraction from important issues, and also an opportunity to paint anyone who opposes Obama's programs as a whacko conspiracy theorist.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #19 July 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteOn on hand I think it's kind of a pointless argument, on the other hand, why not just provide it? For what it's worth, I believe that Obama was born in Hawaii. I'm equally at a loss to sort out why the standard records, which I'm sure have to exist, aren't being publicized. My theory is that it provides some distraction from important issues, and also an opportunity to paint anyone who opposes Obama's programs as a whacko conspiracy theorist. I'm kind of thinking the same thing. Better have people focus on this instead of the massive spending, unread bills getting passed, etc.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #20 July 20, 2009 I guess you think in 1961 the race of the Mother and Father would be listed as; Mother = Caucasian Father = African How in the hell are you believing that document? I can get my Birth Certificate out and it is not a Certificate of Live Birth, that is not the right document. It also lists my Parents as WHITE, not Caucasian. In 1961 the words African and Caucasian on Obama's Certificate of Live Birth were not used on forms during that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #21 July 20, 2009 bullshit. there is PLENTY to legitmately complain about Obama's policies, without resorting to tinfoil hats. Just as there was plenty to complain about Bush's policies, without resorting to tinfoil hat bullshit about him causing 9/11. Leave the tinfoil hats at home, and stick to reality, and have an honest debate. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 July 20, 2009 I am paying attention to everythingAnd I do not like what I am seeing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 3 #23 July 20, 2009 Quote . . . and also an opportunity to paint anyone who opposes Obama's programs as a whacko conspiracy theorist. I don't think anyone has to "paint" them that way. If they go down the "Obama is not a US Natural Born Citizen show me the birth certificate" route, their words and actions do that quite well all by themselves.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 25 #24 July 20, 2009 QuoteQuote . . . and also an opportunity to paint anyone who opposes Obama's programs as a whacko conspiracy theorist. I don't think anyone has to "paint" them that way. If they go down the "Obama is not a US Natural Born Citizen show me the birth certificate" route, their words and actions do that quite well all by themselves. I think that there is always an opportunity to paint anyone who opposes his policies as "similar" to the people with those theories. Kind of like the way that anyone who opposes those policies must be a closet racist. It's nice to have those kind of charges hanging around to sling at people--keeps their legitimate arguments from being heard.-- Tom Aiello [email protected] SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #25 July 20, 2009 QuoteIt also lists my Parents as WHITE, not Caucasian. In 1961 the words African and Caucasian on Obama's Certificate of Live Birth were not used on forms during that time. Bullshit. Not about your own birth certificate, but the supposition that the word "Caucasian" had not been coined or was not used on birth certificates in 1961. Do a Google image search of Hawaiian birth certificates. This is really fucking lame. This is getting to be like those 9/11 conspiracy theorists. They have an agenda, and by god, they're not going to let it get side tracked by a bunch of annoying "facts." Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
