turtlespeed 212 #1 July 2, 2009 Why do my taxes have to support them?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #2 July 2, 2009 >Why do my taxes have to support them? Because when you were younger their taxes supported you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #3 July 2, 2009 QuoteWhy do my taxes have to support them? I heard on the radio awhile back, we have a generation of folks that no longer associate money with work. They associate it with the mail box. They are registered voters and politicians use these people to gain office and power. Their game is to get more votes, more power with your money. It's called Marxism, to Socialism, to Communism. We now have a president who has reached the pinnacle of that philosophy. We need to organize and get rid of these politicians the best we can in 2010 and BHO is 2012. "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher (as best as I remember her statement)Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #4 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Why do my taxes have to support them? I heard on the radio awhile back, we have a generation of folks that no longer associate money with work. we call them bankers stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redlegphi 0 #5 July 2, 2009 I can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redlegphi 0 #6 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Why do my taxes have to support them? I heard on the radio awhile back, we have a generation of folks that no longer associate money with work. we call them bankers Or, more generally, capitalists. The horror! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #7 July 2, 2009 Quote I can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. You said "willy-nilly"..... awesome. I do not think he is a socialist but I do think he likes socialism and is very comfortable with many aspects of it. "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth but socialism is the equal distribution of poverty."Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #8 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote I can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. You said "willy-nilly"..... awesome. I do not think he is a socialist but I do think he likes socialism and is very comfortable with many aspects of it. "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth but socialism is the equal distribution of poverty." socialism for the bankers - more trillions to them stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Erroll 49 #9 July 2, 2009 Quote It's called Marxism, to Socialism, to Communism. We now have a president who has reached the pinnacle of that philosophy. From my vantage point here way down south I am absolutely appalled to read that statement from what I perceived to be an intelligent, eloquent and informed American! I was wrong and you clearly have no idea what any of those concepts mean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rstanley0312 0 #10 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. You said "willy-nilly"..... awesome. I do not think he is a socialist but I do think he likes socialism and is very comfortable with many aspects of it. "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth but socialism is the equal distribution of poverty." socialism for the bankers - more trillions to them That's not cool..... I'm no longer a banker Life is all about ass....either you're kicking it, kissing it, working it off, or trying to get a piece of it. Muff Brother #4382 Dudeist Skydiver #000 www.fundraiseadventure.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #11 July 2, 2009 sooo... become a banker. I opted not to because of the hours. Since we're in a (for now...) capitalist society, I figure i can go a route where I can enjoy my twenties and still position myself to work towards a pot of gold down the road. What a concept huh? work for money, pay for my healthcare, weigh career options, take action, and ultimately responsibility for my own wellbeing. I have no sympathy for panhandlers, no matter what form they take. take my tax dollars for law enforcement, the military, and infrastructure; but trips to argentina, universal healthcare, vacations on airforce G5s, and the purchase or forced purchase of private companies? No thank you, sir.So there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #12 July 2, 2009 Quote>Why do my taxes have to support them? Because when you were younger their taxes supported you. Hmmm - No - Both my parents worked, when they had to. They EARNED money and payed the medical bills with either insurance from BCBS or the like. Never once did they, or those that came before them rely on the government to pay their house note, medical bills, car payment, buisness loans, or any other kind of grant, or loan or assistance. In short - NO - there was no SUPPORT from the government. They only PAID their taxes not lived off of others. I am along the same way - Even though I qualified for it, I never would let my family discrace itself by accepting government help anmd handouts, not by food stamps, not by WIC not by medicaide or care. I simply worked harder and longer until i could afford what I needed. I simply took another job and learned and bettered myself. If I can do it EVERYONE else can. Don't give me any of that BS about oooh they have a hard life - that is the laziest and most ascenine excuse for an excuse as ever there was.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #13 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote I can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. You said "willy-nilly"..... awesome. I do not think he is a socialist but I do think he likes socialism and is very comfortable with many aspects of it. "Capitalism is the unequal distribution of wealth but socialism is the equal distribution of poverty." socialism for the bankers - more trillions to them That's not cool..... I'm no longer a banker Is that because you refused to be put on the government Payroll?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,136 #14 July 2, 2009 I take it you also went to private school? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #15 July 2, 2009 QuoteQuote It's called Marxism, to Socialism, to Communism. We now have a president who has reached the pinnacle of that philosophy. From my vantage point here way down south I am absolutely appalled to read that statement from what I perceived to be an intelligent, eloquent and informed American! I was wrong and you clearly have no idea what any of those concepts mean. BHO is as close to a full blown socialist as I have seen in my lifetime. I am very worried about our nation and its viability.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #16 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Why do my taxes have to support them? I heard on the radio awhile back, we have a generation of folks that no longer associate money with work. we call them bankers I call them welfare people.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,421 #17 July 2, 2009 >Hmmm - No. . . . In short - NO - there was no SUPPORT from the >government. So you didn't go to a public school, then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #18 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Why do my taxes have to support them? I heard on the radio awhile back, we have a generation of folks that no longer associate money with work. we call them bankers I call them welfare people. that's right - bankers (them and their socialist ways)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 58 #19 July 2, 2009 QuoteI can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. Not willy-nilly by any means. I am worried. No, we are not totally socialist yet. But, BHO wants to take us in that direction. When I served in the military we considered socialism as belonging to the enemy. Thank you for your service to our country.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #20 July 2, 2009 QuoteI take it you also went to private school? Yes. And My family sacrificed their time and energy to do that. my parents both took second jobs to allow for my sister and I to do that.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #21 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote I can assure you that we are no where near the peak of socialism, to say nothing of communism or marxism. Perhaps you should better learn what these terms actually mean before just throwing them about willy-nilly. Not willy-nilly by any means. I am worried. No, we are not totally socialist yet. But, BHO wants to take us in that direction. When I served in the military we considered socialism as belonging to the enemy. Thank you for your service to our country. was it one of the socialist (government run) militaries you served in stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #22 July 2, 2009 Quote I take it you also went to private school? Funny story- I went to public school, main reason being because the private schools in my area (obviously not true for the nation...) but anyway the private schools had much less regulation than the public schools. The teachers at the private school were actually a lower quality with less credentials; a bunch of these idiots ended up paying (a lot) for a lesser education Anyway, as long as one goes to school and makes an effort to get educated, he/she can keep moving forward, private education or public. As with everything, just make the effort and WORK for it. Anyone see that news article on CNN.com recently? The homeless girl that just graduated from a PUBLIC high school and will be attending HARVARD next year? Edit: "She has attended 12 schools in 12 years; lived out of garbage bags among pimps, prostitutes and drug dealers." And now she's goin to Harvard cuz she worked her @$$ off. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-harvard20-2009jun20,0,1882109.storySo there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #23 July 2, 2009 Quote Not willy-nilly by any means. I am worried. No, we are not totally socialist yet. But, BHO wants to take us in that direction. When I served in the military we considered socialism as belonging to the enemy. Thank you for your service to our country. Americans can be so stupid sometimes! For fucks sake, when you took tor pay, in the army, you were being socilaist, when you drive on your freeways, you are being socialist, when you watch you space shuttle launch into space, you are socialist. think about it? you are your own enemy you damned commie! "When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 212 #24 July 2, 2009 Quote Quote Not willy-nilly by any means. I am worried. No, we are not totally socialist yet. But, BHO wants to take us in that direction. When I served in the military we considered socialism as belonging to the enemy. Thank you for your service to our country. Americans can be so stupid sometimes! For fucks sake, when you took tor pay, in the army, you were being socilaist, when you drive on your freeways, you are being socialist, when you watch you space shuttle launch into space, you are socialist. think about it? you are your own enemy you damned commie! What are you smoking? Since when is basic infrastucture Socialism? If you MUST make a point about it - we took our first major step toward a Socialistic existence when we initiated income tax. And BTW - I live on a private road.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #25 July 2, 2009 Quote Anyone see that news article on CNN.com recently? The homeless girl that just graduated from a PUBLIC high school and will be attending HARVARD next year? Edit: "She has attended 12 schools in 12 years; lived out of garbage bags among pimps, prostitutes and drug dealers." And now she's goin to Harvard cuz she worked her @$$ off. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-harvard20-2009jun20,0,1882109.story I hadn't. And probably wouldn't if you hadn't mentioned it./Marg ... also 12 years of primary public education + 5 years at a public university for graduate school Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
